Oct 24 2007
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“Unproveable” UFOs?
There have been a few comments on the posts here about “proof” and “evidence” when discussing UFO sightings. We would all love to see some kind of incontrivertible evidence to “prove” once and for all, that this subject we all hold dear is based in something that is “real” as defined by our society. As Nick and I have mentioned numerous times, that proof will not come unless someone with the public’s trust makes an unequivocal statement (not very likely) or the phenomenon itself decides to do it for us. That second scenario is probably more likely, based on our history so far. The third, and most probable outcome is that we all have some sort of sea change in perception and understand the phenomenon for what it is, and/or most importantly, how it relates to us. This may come about as a result of some weird combination of the other two situations.
But all this theorizing aside, the UFO subject (and the paranormal in general) is FUN, dammit. I love reading about the latest encounter or sighting, “true” or not–the weirder the better. It makes me realize why I started reading the literature when I was in elementary school. Fiction is enjoyable, and even more so when you reach an age when the subtleties of symbolism. allegory, etc. start to emerge. Reading about ghosts, bigfoot, UFOs and other assorted strangeness however, gave me the extra push I needed to keep reading because “this might have actually happened.” It still does.
While simple sightings will satisfy the neophyte, as one becomes more sophisticated in their tastes, stranger stuff waits in the wings. When the Fortean Times asked for a top ten list of UFO sightings, I thought of a particularly weird one that I couldn’t locate in the literature. Last night I stumbled on it in John Keel’s Strange Creatures From Time And Space:
In UFOs Over the Americas [Coral Lorenzen] devotes a full chapter to an interview with a witness in Lima, Peru who claimed an extraordinary UFO encounter back in 1947. The witness, identified only as Mr. C.A.V., was interviewed by APRO investigator Richard Greenwell on October 4, 1967–twenty years after the event. He came upon a grounded shiny disk on a highway outside of Lima one night, and when he approached it on foot, he was met by two incredible amoeba-like creatures. They looked like bananas joined together. Their skin was sandy-colored with a towel-like texture, and they were about five feet, five inches tall. A voice came at him “as if it came from a speaker,” addressing him in English, a language he could understand. The voice told him that the creatures were sexless and they demonstrated by suddenly dividing themselves like amoebae. After conducting him on a rather quick tour of the rather barren interior of the flying saucer, they departed. One of the significant details is the fact that the man felt a loss of volition. “I was in a state where I was not under my own command” he said.
What are we to do with this sort of encounter? It certainly doesn’t resemble any other case that comes to mind. We could theorize that the human collective unconscious (or perhaps that of “Mr. C.A.V.”) didn’t have a framework in which to fit the sighting, so the “creatures” remained literal “amorphus blobs.” All guessing aside, it is this kind of story that is just so weird that it appeals to a sense of the bizarre. It thumbs its nose even at the strangeness inherent in all UFO literature, and satisfies the maverick in us who suspects that no matter how much is known, there will always be a handful of things that stand out on the fringe.
It is “unproveable,” and will likely remain so, but tan colored, terrycloth-covered telepathic mind-controlling bananas slithering out of shiny discs (and their kin) will always be out there on the fringe, laughing at the know-it-alls who indignantly turn up their noses. I often prefer to stand with the outcasts and refugees from respectability.
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October 24th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Indeed, we should have more weird, banana-like amoeba blobs encounters!
This is a hobby that does not appeal to anyone, and that’s fine. But just as the gay community were accepted by the mainstream in the mid 90s, and now the same thing is happening with the geeks in the early 2000s, our community might have its moment to become “hip” in the future.
We just have to come up with a good name that defines people like us, who like to read about UFOs, ghosts, lake monsters and Bigfoot. Any ideas?
October 24th, 2007 at 1:10 pm
Red Pill,
You said, “This is a hobby that does not appeal to anyone,” by which I’m sure you meant, “does not appeal to EVERYone,” to which I wholeheartedly agree.
There are many people out there (no pun intended) who enjoy, even thrive on hunting down the mysterious and significant. The possibility that many UFO sightings represent real events and physical objects is what either attracts or repels the average observer, depending on whether they believe the reports or not.
To Greg’s original comments, I’ve come across a number of skeptics who claim they need irrefutable proof — usually first-person, hands-on proof — before they accept ANYthing dealing with UFOs. The fact that they already accept many theories in the real world without such concrete evidence usually seems to go right over their heads.
As far as self-splitting banana-amoeba creatures, it’s interesting that many regions across the globe seem to have their own unique type of visitors. The blond Nordics of South America rarely seem to visit Russia, whereas the Russia-visiting giants with little biddy heads never seem to want to hit Rio in the summer.
It suggests that perhaps there is some sort of system that has split up the planet into different regions, with predominant alien types viewed more often in certain areas.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that there are select races who predominate these regions. It may be as many researchers have suggested, that the UFO and alien experience is subjective, and as Vallee has written, may be somehow connected to certain geographic regions.
Where demons and angels might have once reigned, we now view saucers and little gray clones. Although, those that do receive these visits or visions, depending on your POV, are rarely the skeptic nor the true believer, but those in between with the willingness and the capacity to accept new experiences.
As far as names for those of us interested in the paranormal, the best I can come up with is “the PowerNormals.”
I know,I know, I’ll keep working on it.
– TemplarScribe
http://www.MichaelDelving.com
http://www.EternalHorizons.com
October 24th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
Well said all!
Although I started out late, there is nothing more fun and addictive than reading about the unknown. The unknown pretty much covers a lot but I mostly read about UFOs, Cryptids, and theoretical physics.
There is something wonderful about altering one’s own mind-set on a regular bases; I think I’d go mad with boredom if I didn’t try to make that happen
October 24th, 2007 at 3:47 pm
Sorry Templar, you’re right. What I meant this is a hobby for not just anyone!
Hey, it just came to me! How about AlterViewers as a name for our kind? Because we like to delve with alternative points of views instead of going with mainstream propositions. I think it’s got potential
October 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
PowerNormals? AlterViewers? Those two sound a bit like software package names, especially with the midline capitalization and lack of word spacing, like VisiCalc or EasyWriter, which are early software app names.
I’ll give this idea some thought. The only thing that occurred right away is
that we are “anomalists”, or maybe “scanners.”
Heh. I know. Not enough public marketing appeal to meme its way into MS consciousness. I’ll try to think of something better.
October 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pm
This is not original, but I recall the early name of a publication that transmuted into Mondo2000:
Reality Hackers. [?]
I’ll keep trying…
October 24th, 2007 at 6:52 pm
Well in my research I have discovered that Amazonian shamans (including Peru) eat specifically only bananas or fish before going on vision quest — because bananas have such a high serotonin content. In fact bananas are now scientifically recommended to treat depression.
There’s a popular belief that serotonin in the stomach can not pass the blood-brain barrier to turn into melatonin and then DMT but in fact, as the book “The Tangled Wing” (Harvard physiologist) details — if the serotonin is IONIZED then it does pass the blood-brain barrier.
Trance music, through natural overtones creating ultrasound, will ionize banana serotonin and quite possibly such visions would be guided by the subconscious desire of bananas.
For example the Somalians in Minneapolis all eat at least one banana a day but as I’ve noticed, and also practice, we’re quick to cut that phallus symbol up lest it contaminate our meal with homoerotic messages!
And Greg your banana, although clothed, appears to have no shame. Seriously just as Freud was wrong about cigars (he had such a fetish he got jaw cancer) I doubt that a banana could be sexless.
October 24th, 2007 at 7:15 pm
Here we go: August, 21, 2007, Peruvian vision posted on a blog:
Green points of light appeared in front of me, like a dot matrix. They combined and made the skeleton of an archway and ceiling, a sort of luminous green skeleton of a cathedral ceiling. I opened my eyes: They lights didn’t disappear.
They didn’t last long either. In a few minutes I found myself in utter darkness, eyes opened or shut. I saw bright fruit handing from trees and realized I was in a forest full of trees bearing mangos, papayas and bananas. I reached for one of the bananas. To my surprise it began to peel itself. Instead of a banana it revealed a small beautiful reddish-brown monkey with shining eyes. It began to grin and I felt myself grinning back. But the monkey’s grin kept growing wider until it was a hideous, jabbering mouth screaming obscenities that broke off finally into a sort of insane laughter.
I recoiled and opened my eyes. I’d never had such a dream-like vision while using ayahuasca before. But when I closed my eyes the image returned. It laughed at me and when it did finally disappear it was followed by a series of visions I can only describe as a trip through a funhouse of desires and fears. I was in a place of roller coasters and huge slides. Faces appeared out of the darkness while I rode on the rides. There were demons and beautiful women. There were funhouse mirrors in which I saw a thousand versions of myself—some normal distortions, and some in which I watched myself—or was forced to relive—some of the worst things I’d ever done. It was a strange and haunting voyage, altogether different than what I’d expected or anticipated.
The women were cartoonish and sexy, with huge breasts and round hips and dark Peruvian eyes. They called to me. I wanted to be with them. All of them. And then I found myself as a tiny me facing a huge inverted ‘V’. It was a luscious vagina seen from below on a giantess of some sort. I began to hurtle towards her. As I grew close she turned and I realized to my horror that it wasn’t a woman at all, but a giant with a giant penis. I thought of the sexual connotations of the monkey in the banana peel and resigned myself to the homophobic implications of the naked giant.
October 24th, 2007 at 10:12 pm
Another great post! Not much I can add to it; just … thanks for saying it. Lots of good comments by others too.
I love all that Contactee, humanoid, and other weird flying saucer stuff, because, yes damnit, it is fun. All kinds of other levels as well, but there is the fun factor, and so what? Why not? (not that I’m spamming or shamelessly plugging, but that’s why I started my Vintage UFO blog — just for fun!)
October 25th, 2007 at 6:40 am
“I was in a state where I was not under my own command” he said.
October 26th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Maybe we could be called “Alien Adductors”