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Sep 23 2007

Was He Killed For Talking About Alien Bases?

In my book Project Beta, I briefly mentioned the story of a government contract employee who claimed to have worked at the supposed undergound base near Dulce, NM. This man, Philip Schneider, toured the country in the early 1990s giving lectures about his experiences at the base and what he called a “firefight with alien humanoids” there sometime in 1979.

It is curious that he chose to speak out on these experiences just as researchers were beginning to doubt that there ever was an “underground alien facility” in the area, as claimed by Paul Bennewitz (based on direct disinfo fed to him in the early 1980s.)

In January of 1996, Schneider was found dead in his apartment in Wilsonville, Oregon. His ex-wife claims that she was not allowed to see the body, and that there was evidence that he was strangled with surgical tubing. She claims that the Oregon authorities did not perform a proper autopsy to definitively determine the cause of death. About a year after Project Beta was published, I was shown a letter from Cynthia Schneider Drayer asking the New Mexico authorities to look into his death. This would have been difficult, as they had no jurisdiction over a crime supposedly committed in Oregon.

Schneider had cancer, osteoperosis, and other health problems at the time of his death, which makes the suicide angle a bit more believeable, but his lecturing zeal somewhat contradicts this scenario. If, as I currently believe, there was never an underground UFO base at Dulce, what are we to make of this story?

In the early 1990s, Robert Lazar claimed to have worked on UFO-technology at Area 51, but he has never been “silenced.” This is probably because he was doing exactly what someone wanted him to do, whether he was aware of it or not. Schneider was not only lecturing about aliens and UFOs, but a vast network of underground bases, and the associated New World Order-type stories that get paranoids riled up, true, partially true, or not.

What better way to excite the audience for this sort of storytelling than to have the perpetrator killed to “silence” him? It seems that the best course of action with someone like Philip Schneider would be to leave him alone and let him preach to the choir. His death would only serve to give his accounts more publicity and validity.

If there is (or was) an actual undergound base there in the northwest corner of New Mexico Schneider may have been reading from a script that even he did not know he was reading. Like Lazar, perhaps he did see underground facilties, and strange things may have happened to him. Also like Lazar, he may have been exposed to things specifically so he would go and talk about them. His lectures (one of which can be found here) are filled with so much strange information that he was guaranteed to be marginalized.

On the other hand, if his stories had a bit of truth, they are so unbelievable that they provide their own sort of security.

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8 Comments to “Was He Killed For Talking About Alien Bases?”

  1. misteranderson Says:

    There are no underground bases with aliens. Anyone out there want to try & prove to me that there are? Show me…..

  2. crgintx Says:

    Devil’s advocate here: With the huge military test ranges out around the country, there no way you can tell how many underground bases there are out there much less the ones with aliens. :)

  3. drew hempel Says:

    The new book on Gary Webb, “Kill the Messenger,” is a fascinating account of how his suicide was driven by a fascist culture. There is a serious psychological denial factor that blocks investigation of really far-out realities.

    The idea of a whole society practically destroyed by a drug creating a harmful addictive altered state of consciousness with its profits funding genocidal massacres is hard to fathom as a conspiracy. “Kill the Messenger” brings amazing new evidence that Ron Lister, supplying weapons for the drug dealers and the death squads of Central America, did work for the CIA, reporting to its highest levels.

    The CIA-crack-Contra conspiracy has become something of an urban myth, meanwhile the drug devastation and prison labor epidemic continues.

    I think the UFO scene is the opposite — the urban myth, instead of being propped up by paranoid leftists who are accurate, is, on the contrary, promoted by the CIA as a mass media event. These black-budget equilateral triangles are cruising the skies, ramping up for apocalyptic global meltdown, yet can only be approached in the context of little green men.

    The extraterrestials underground will be Cheney and Kissinger scrambling over the oil wells of a devastated Iran. The fascist culture that backs up this apocalyptic warfare hides in the alien agenda as a doped-up fantasy since there is no “final solution” for the future of A.I. society.

    We are not supposed to take the stargate conspiracy seriously and should only watch it on the Simpsons. Late capitalism relies on cynical compulsive consumerism. Yet some people are still sincere to the point of being fanatical and therefore a danger to the system. Chinese Falun Gong paranormal practitioners are a case in point — now being “harvested” by the thousands in “underground” concentration camps for life-extension high-tech surgeries.

    Sounds like reverse-engineering to me.

  4. crgintx Says:

    The only problem I see with the fascist conspiracy angle is that people have been reporting strange beings and objects coming out from the underground and underwater for centuries. While I agree with Mr.Anderson to a certain extent that there’s never been any hard proof of ET’s much less ET bases, the NWO/Nazi/CT hypothesis is equally hard to swallow. It has more credible evidence for it but much of that evidence can also be used as disinfo for hiding other covert operations.

  5. drew hempel Says:

    My response can be found as the 80th and most recent comment on my blogbook, mothershiplanding.blogspot.com.

  6. crgintx Says:

    Drew, at the risk of sounding fundamentally skeptic, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. The Fascist/Nazi movements much prefer overt acts of oppression over covert ones. Sowing fear and distrust amongst the ignorant was their stock and trade. They like to gather like minded individuals openly as a show of political strength. They are socialists of a kind rather than individualists. Yes, there has been much covert dirty dealing done by the intelligence services in the US on American citizens ,there just isn’t a NWO! There is however a bunch of rich mostly Western Europeans who long for the days of past colonial empires that were built by naked force and aggression. These groups morphed into the corporate/govt’ cabal obsessed with false sense of power and control when any one them can fall victim to random unpredictable events at any time. making plans. All the wealth in the world can’t protect you from a lightning strike or slipping in the bathtub and drowning.

  7. red pill junkie Says:

    I really don’t know what to make of this guy.

    I don’t know if his poor lecturing skills actually add or diminishes his credibility. In this Youtube the guy was pretty much “rambling” on a variety of subjects and outlandish statements without a coherent structure.

    Do we know if at least he was an actual geologist as he claimed to be? Did anyone ever question his credentials or ask him something related to Geology, like Bob Lazar was questioned about physics?

    And what happened to all those mineral “samples” he showed on the lecture? He even claimed to have pieces of the Roswell craft in a plastic bag. What happened to that?

  8. crgintx Says:

    Here’s a link to a video of the lecture that Phil Schneider was allegedly murdered over.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8b5Ea3dgK3c

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