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		<title>By: titanzeus</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/ufo-cross-christian/#comment-5859</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yesterday (June 1, 2008)here in the philippines. we saw that same formation in the sky(cross image)about 3:30pm . sorry because we have no video to capture that event. but its true. first we saw like a baloon. but later the cross image was not move. we dont know whats the meaning of that event yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yesterday (June 1, 2008)here in the philippines. we saw that same formation in the sky(cross image)about 3:30pm . sorry because we have no video to capture that event. but its true. first we saw like a baloon. but later the cross image was not move. we dont know whats the meaning of that event yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/ufo-cross-christian/#comment-2752</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Greg before I read your comment I happened to have finally ordered your book today at Borders! haha.  I realized last night that I finally have a pay check that doesn't have to go to rent! haha.

Anyway I'm not sure which essay you are referring to Smiles -- if it's mine or someone elses.  I have discussed the Stargate Conspiracy online before as what I called the "actual Matrix Plan" or "real Matrix" which got posted on the most credulous Icke (bless his wacky populist creepy rants!) haha.

My blogbook is linked on his website links --

When the Mothership Lands:  Secrets of the CIA's Psi-Plasma Vortex.

Anyway the deeper message is basically in support of the Reptilian argument a la David Icke which is of course immediately dismissed as wacky -- but wait there's more! haha.

I find independent corroboration from academic sources that indeed blacksmiths in Africa are considered the master magicians who shapeshift into crocodiles -- the only ritual involving the whole community's protection.  This relationship to Set in Egypt and the Hittite invasion, with the later Greek invasion, building on this ancient gnosticism....whew!!

Anyway what's really insane yet true is the Brahmin Jnana accomplishment of becoming the UnDead only through meditation.  If someone studies Sri Ramana Maharshi's writings in detail, (unlike his yuppie followers), he states that only when his heart stopped for over 10 minutes did he "cut the knot" and achieve "eternal liberation."

Ranting?  Just wait... The process to become a zombie -- or Jnana -- the highest Brahmin yoga -- is through logical inference, not belief of any sort.  A person simply and with intense focus, repeats "I-I-I" over, not as a mantra, but as an experiment to seek the source of the I-thought.  There is an end to this experiment....

Dr. Rodolfo Llinas, NYU Neuroscientist and poster-boy of the New Age, has also achieved the same results.  His book "I of the Vortex" explains that a microchip can now put a person into the deep sleep state so that their brain AND heart can be controlled, at will, by computers, enabling those so incurable by today's late-capitalist era, as indispensable for the new nanobio holographic revolution.

But I digress.... for details there's always my real rant... when the mothership lands... which focuses on the abstract logical foundation of this whole scheme, the secret behind Plato's Freemasonic Greek Miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Greg before I read your comment I happened to have finally ordered your book today at Borders! haha.  I realized last night that I finally have a pay check that doesn&#8217;t have to go to rent! haha.</p>
<p>Anyway I&#8217;m not sure which essay you are referring to Smiles &#8212; if it&#8217;s mine or someone elses.  I have discussed the Stargate Conspiracy online before as what I called the &#8220;actual Matrix Plan&#8221; or &#8220;real Matrix&#8221; which got posted on the most credulous Icke (bless his wacky populist creepy rants!) haha.</p>
<p>My blogbook is linked on his website links &#8211;</p>
<p>When the Mothership Lands:  Secrets of the CIA&#8217;s Psi-Plasma Vortex.</p>
<p>Anyway the deeper message is basically in support of the Reptilian argument a la David Icke which is of course immediately dismissed as wacky &#8212; but wait there&#8217;s more! haha.</p>
<p>I find independent corroboration from academic sources that indeed blacksmiths in Africa are considered the master magicians who shapeshift into crocodiles &#8212; the only ritual involving the whole community&#8217;s protection.  This relationship to Set in Egypt and the Hittite invasion, with the later Greek invasion, building on this ancient gnosticism&#8230;.whew!!</p>
<p>Anyway what&#8217;s really insane yet true is the Brahmin Jnana accomplishment of becoming the UnDead only through meditation.  If someone studies Sri Ramana Maharshi&#8217;s writings in detail, (unlike his yuppie followers), he states that only when his heart stopped for over 10 minutes did he &#8220;cut the knot&#8221; and achieve &#8220;eternal liberation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ranting?  Just wait&#8230; The process to become a zombie &#8212; or Jnana &#8212; the highest Brahmin yoga &#8212; is through logical inference, not belief of any sort.  A person simply and with intense focus, repeats &#8220;I-I-I&#8221; over, not as a mantra, but as an experiment to seek the source of the I-thought.  There is an end to this experiment&#8230;.</p>
<p>Dr. Rodolfo Llinas, NYU Neuroscientist and poster-boy of the New Age, has also achieved the same results.  His book &#8220;I of the Vortex&#8221; explains that a microchip can now put a person into the deep sleep state so that their brain AND heart can be controlled, at will, by computers, enabling those so incurable by today&#8217;s late-capitalist era, as indispensable for the new nanobio holographic revolution.</p>
<p>But I digress&#8230;. for details there&#8217;s always my real rant&#8230; when the mothership lands&#8230; which focuses on the abstract logical foundation of this whole scheme, the secret behind Plato&#8217;s Freemasonic Greek Miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: anomaly</title>
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		<dc:creator>anomaly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 15:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

You can catch up on the Stargate Conspiracy here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/stargate/stargate07.htm

... and of course at the authors' website:

picknettprince.com

They've basically elaborated upon Vallee's assertion that certain human agencies are manipulating beliefs with ufo related phenomena (particularly channeling of The Nine) and shown the lineage of certain esoteric/occult belief systems that have a history of political influence.

Mr. Hempel's link to his essay leads to  succinct descriptions of Picknett and Prince's ideas on this important subject.

SMiles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>You can catch up on the Stargate Conspiracy here:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/stargate/stargate07.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/stargate/stargate07.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8230; and of course at the authors&#8217; website:</p>
<p>picknettprince.com</p>
<p>They&#8217;ve basically elaborated upon Vallee&#8217;s assertion that certain human agencies are manipulating beliefs with ufo related phenomena (particularly channeling of The Nine) and shown the lineage of certain esoteric/occult belief systems that have a history of political influence.</p>
<p>Mr. Hempel&#8217;s link to his essay leads to  succinct descriptions of Picknett and Prince&#8217;s ideas on this important subject.</p>
<p>SMiles</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 07:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles,

You're welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 07:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew, 

Sometimes when I read your comments, I feel like someone who comes on this site not knowing anything about the UFO subject, as I haven't read all of the same books and had the same experiences as you.

Are you suggesting that the military or someone else might be using this christian idea as a control tool? That I agree with!

I suppose I'll have to get a copy of  "Stargate Conspiracy."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew, </p>
<p>Sometimes when I read your comments, I feel like someone who comes on this site not knowing anything about the UFO subject, as I haven&#8217;t read all of the same books and had the same experiences as you.</p>
<p>Are you suggesting that the military or someone else might be using this christian idea as a control tool? That I agree with!</p>
<p>I suppose I&#8217;ll have to get a copy of  &#8220;Stargate Conspiracy.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: elfis</title>
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		<dc:creator>elfis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 03:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew you beat me to the punch.

When I first read this thread I had just finished reading STARGATE CONSPIRACY and was going to chime in along the lines you did.

While in my view the evidence points towards there being a real variety of intelligences (human and otherwise) within the multitude of ufo related phenomena, I think Stargate Conspiracy goes a long way towards continuing to document the strategems outlined in Vallee's MOD.

Thanks for point out this video Greg!

SMiles</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew you beat me to the punch.</p>
<p>When I first read this thread I had just finished reading STARGATE CONSPIRACY and was going to chime in along the lines you did.</p>
<p>While in my view the evidence points towards there being a real variety of intelligences (human and otherwise) within the multitude of ufo related phenomena, I think Stargate Conspiracy goes a long way towards continuing to document the strategems outlined in Vallee&#8217;s MOD.</p>
<p>Thanks for point out this video Greg!</p>
<p>SMiles</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Aug 2007 20:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK I just had an extended debate with paranormal researcher Michael Prescott about the evidence for a historical "psychic" Jesus and this fits in with Constantine as the founder of the "true" Church.... ahem.

Seriously though that new David Sereda UFO video on dailygrail.com is a total social engineering promotion of the CIA Stargate Conspiracy -- only aliens can unite the Holy Freemasonic Empire! 

The NASA and space shuttle footage is fascinating though but I think it can be explained without resorting to little green men.  Also nice to know the military has big black rectangles as well!  That might explain my friend's sighting of the levitating canister thing over a highway. haha.

Having seen a big, black triangle way too close for comfort I researched the thing and sure enough it was right in a military flight test corridor where similar "alien" sightings occurred in the 1970s.  This UFO flap in the 1970s, in the St. Croix River Valley of Minnesota, was accompanied by cattle mutilation right by a wildlife refuge, so scary a rancher moved away.  The local newspaper even ran photos of the ufos -- which again were just secret military test flights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I just had an extended debate with paranormal researcher Michael Prescott about the evidence for a historical &#8220;psychic&#8221; Jesus and this fits in with Constantine as the founder of the &#8220;true&#8221; Church&#8230;. ahem.</p>
<p>Seriously though that new David Sereda UFO video on dailygrail.com is a total social engineering promotion of the CIA Stargate Conspiracy &#8212; only aliens can unite the Holy Freemasonic Empire! </p>
<p>The NASA and space shuttle footage is fascinating though but I think it can be explained without resorting to little green men.  Also nice to know the military has big black rectangles as well!  That might explain my friend&#8217;s sighting of the levitating canister thing over a highway. haha.</p>
<p>Having seen a big, black triangle way too close for comfort I researched the thing and sure enough it was right in a military flight test corridor where similar &#8220;alien&#8221; sightings occurred in the 1970s.  This UFO flap in the 1970s, in the St. Croix River Valley of Minnesota, was accompanied by cattle mutilation right by a wildlife refuge, so scary a rancher moved away.  The local newspaper even ran photos of the ufos &#8212; which again were just secret military test flights.</p>
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