See: Bill Ryan and Project Camelot Psy-ops
http://laura-knight-jadczyk.blogspot.com/2008/02/bill-ryan-and-project-camelot-psy-ops.html

While we’re collecting “Ebens,” we mustn’t forget HP Lovecraft’s dream of being Eben Spencer, a Civil War soldier and surgeon. Joseph Trainor has documented some curious ways in which Lovecraft’s dream has real-world foundation. Eben Spencer may have had contact with an alien.

Eben isn’t a totally unknown name — I have an ancestor of that name myself.

I was looking into a dragonesque Papua New Guinea cryptid known as the Ropen today, and was intrigued by the resemblence a wood carving of it (depicted in the form of a witch doctor)
had with the Ebonite. Local reports seem to indicate that a creature resembling a pterosaur is still occasionally sighted in the region.

Ebonite
http://www.sideshowtoy.com/ebonite.html

Ropen (figures 10 and 11)
http://www.genesispark.com/genpark/png/crsarticle.doc

I don’t know what the usual pronunciation of the acronym EBE is — can anyone give a key to pronouncing it? Presumably this would have come in a chain from Bill Uhouse and Bill Hamilton, right? Is it “Ee Bee Ee,” “Eeb” or “Ee bee”?

I have to say I find that using both Eben and EBE as the name for the “EXTRATERRESTRIAL BIOLOGICAL ENTITY” is inherently clunky. It’s like you would use “UFO” as a common acronym in place of Unidentified Flying Object, but you decided to use “ufoen” as the adjective.

FWIW, on the Urban Dictionary site, readers have submitted definitions for Eben as “Chinese for ‘abnormally retarded’” or “Self righteous, pompous, know-it-all.”

I found some background material regarding the EBE/Eben usage on Linda Moulton Howe’s interview with Bill Hamilton regarding Uhouse and Burisch. The end of it features some solemn intoning that “There is something significant about 2003 (EBE 3 was said to have been going home that year), according to other sources that I have, but I have not been able to determine what that significance is.”

Ooops, doesn’t seem to have happened in any significant way.

http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod2.htm

I had it on what I consider good authroity that the motive was at the very least an exercise in disfinfo for military or counterintelligence purposes. One of the fringe benefits might have been for a book deal. Considering the number of UFO books that have made any decent money, I put that one at the bottom of the list, expecially since it would have had to be split amongst at a few people.

There are, of course, always other possible motives, but I’ve usually found - especially in ufology - that the simplest explanation, i.e. dirty, filthy lucre, is at the root of most of these things. Not all, but most. Ego would rate second.

As for official disinformation, I give the government more credit than to cook up a crackpot story like Serpo.

Paul

I don’t quite know what to make of Ryan. Perhaps he knows what’s going on behind the scenes, and perhaps not. There are other motives if you want to go that route.

Thanks for your answers/ comments. My contention from the beginning of this saga was that many of the same people (Green, Puthoff, McGovern, Doty) who were involved with the Bennewitz saga were circling around SERPO. Unlike those who are “committed” to getting to the bottom of this, I would guess that those who are working the hardest on exposing SERPO don’t have as many things on their free-time plates as I do. See my subsequent post on this subject.

Look at the plus side - at least Bill Ryan got some all-expense paid trips out of it, so it worked out well for him.

Hmm… in the legal world, we might just call that “motive”.

Paul

http://www.realityuncovered.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1706&highlight=#1706

Additionally, Bill Ryan has told Zep and Ryguy that Doty has all of the Serpo documents on his computer. I suppose it is possible someone else intent on perpetuating the crap in UFOlogy could have accessed Doty’s computer to do it but I believe that is highly unlikely.

Now - what I will acknowledge is that Doty most likely did not accumulate all of this information without help from someone. That someone I believe is ‘Kit’ Green. I also believe ‘Kit’ has been the puppet master for decades, and most likely has some help from others (Pandolfi, Macabbee for example).

WRT to your comment to daath23’s opinion about Doty’s writing - I have numerous emails from Doty - he is a sloppy writer. I also know that Victor Martinez did the editing of EfD so I don’t think using anything ‘Doty’ supposedly wrote in that book should be used as an example of Doty’s writing.

WRT what you read at realityuncovered regarding Kit Green - I believe that article was an attempt to show that Bren - the Admin at Open Minds forum lied to his moderator staff about the information he supposed obtained from Kit Green in order to convince them that he had access to the ‘insiders’. I also know that at the time that article was written, Ryguy and Zep were desperately trying to endear themselves to Kit in order to obtain information.

I cannot speak to Kit’s location wrt to the Serpo saga.

BTW - how committed are you to exposing the truth behind Serpo? I have to agree with daath’s comment that “proving an anonymous internet posting false by citing another anonymous internet post to be, well, amusing.”

Especially since it appears the TC group consists of the same individuals as those behind the Serpo crap.

As to how I got interested in researching Serpo - I saw the original post made by ‘Centrist’ on ATS and ended up volunteering to be part of the group that documented a Serpo Summary for ATS.

Serpo has become a tar baby for me unfortunately. I hope to be getting rid of it very, very soon.

Always,
Shawnna

Good call. The rumor of some sort of “exchange” has apparently been floating around since at least the 1980s. Of course, it is also the basis of the CE3K Spielberg film. Chicken or egg? I don’t know.

“Ebonites?” Were they black aliens?

I was under the impression that the term “Eben” was derived from EBE (”Extraterrestrial Biological Entity.”) Someone may feel the need to set me straight on that one.

You may know about my post on the Hill abduction which also references an “Outer Limits” episode.