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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/serpo-ufo-debate/#comment-1350</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Mar 2007 21:27:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter,

I'm wary of any theory that includes everything, since almost anyone with a good knowledge of UFO history can poke holes in it. Also, the hypothesis is not falsifiable--we can't, even in theory, test it, since it suggests that all we see in the UFO arena is faked. How could we get any "clean" data when it's faked to begin with? I do think that some of the info is definitely not what it seems, either coming from non-humans or the humans that pass the (dis)info on to the public.

"Sources" can tell us anything, the facts of which remain in limbo until we find some sort of confirming evidence. That doesn't mean the info isn't just as valuable on other levels, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wary of any theory that includes everything, since almost anyone with a good knowledge of UFO history can poke holes in it. Also, the hypothesis is not falsifiable&#8211;we can&#8217;t, even in theory, test it, since it suggests that all we see in the UFO arena is faked. How could we get any &#8220;clean&#8221; data when it&#8217;s faked to begin with? I do think that some of the info is definitely not what it seems, either coming from non-humans or the humans that pass the (dis)info on to the public.</p>
<p>&#8220;Sources&#8221; can tell us anything, the facts of which remain in limbo until we find some sort of confirming evidence. That doesn&#8217;t mean the info isn&#8217;t just as valuable on other levels, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: AdventureMan</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/serpo-ufo-debate/#comment-1327</link>
		<dc:creator>AdventureMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

Sesh Heri has said that the UFO information of the 20th century was essentially all planted theater, even if it appeared as an accidental encounter or a crash. I would say that is about honest, but believe that some info was disinfo created quickly to respond to unplanned encounters. One of my sources told me, in the late 90s, about a small group of individuals not on another planet but in orbit aboard ET vehicles.

What are your thoughts on that?

Walter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>Sesh Heri has said that the UFO information of the 20th century was essentially all planted theater, even if it appeared as an accidental encounter or a crash. I would say that is about honest, but believe that some info was disinfo created quickly to respond to unplanned encounters. One of my sources told me, in the late 90s, about a small group of individuals not on another planet but in orbit aboard ET vehicles.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts on that?</p>
<p>Walter</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ssmrconed,

Actually, one of the theories about SERPO was that it was someone's idea to get a book deal. Looks like it didn't work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ssmrconed,</p>
<p>Actually, one of the theories about SERPO was that it was someone&#8217;s idea to get a book deal. Looks like it didn&#8217;t work.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/serpo-ufo-debate/#comment-1304</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shawnna,

Thanks for pointing out that I made a mistake re: Doty's law credential. It was a lot of work to put together a book on such a vast subject, especially on a limited schedule. There were bound to be a couple of errors, particularly when dealing with secret government programs, even though I tried to get everything right. Somewhere in "Project Beta," I think I mentioned that it was a step in uncovering the events of that era, and that others should take what I found and run with it. When you think you have penetrated the SERPO labyrinth, perhaps you and your colleagues can summarize your findings as a book or PDF download. I'd certainly like to see it.

It is generally easier to comment on issues and people using anonymous web aliases, which I don't choose to do. It may also get you further into the matrix of something like SERPO, and the possible reasons behind it. Good luck and keep me posted.

It's always nice to be accused of being on the payroll, even jokingly. It makes me think I may be doing some good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shawnna,</p>
<p>Thanks for pointing out that I made a mistake re: Doty&#8217;s law credential. It was a lot of work to put together a book on such a vast subject, especially on a limited schedule. There were bound to be a couple of errors, particularly when dealing with secret government programs, even though I tried to get everything right. Somewhere in &#8220;Project Beta,&#8221; I think I mentioned that it was a step in uncovering the events of that era, and that others should take what I found and run with it. When you think you have penetrated the SERPO labyrinth, perhaps you and your colleagues can summarize your findings as a book or PDF download. I&#8217;d certainly like to see it.</p>
<p>It is generally easier to comment on issues and people using anonymous web aliases, which I don&#8217;t choose to do. It may also get you further into the matrix of something like SERPO, and the possible reasons behind it. Good luck and keep me posted.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s always nice to be accused of being on the payroll, even jokingly. It makes me think I may be doing some good.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 21:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

Yes, it was a bad one, but I (and researchers like "Shawnna")Â want to look at the people behind it andÂ the purpose it served. That's the interesting part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>Yes, it was a bad one, but I (and researchers like &#8220;Shawnna&#8221;)Â want to look at the people behind it andÂ the purpose it served. That&#8217;s the interesting part.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawnna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:50:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.serpo.info

has been updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.serpo.info" rel="nofollow">http://www.serpo.info</a></p>
<p>has been updated.</p>
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		<title>By: ssmrconed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ssmrconed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Feb 2007 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg, SERPO is poorly written drivel IMHO.  **But** - were I to go to all the trouble of recording that nonsense, I would have "gone Roswell", leaked it out a little at a time and claimed my dad/mom/sister/uncle/brother/next door neighbor (pick one) actually made the trip and told me the tale on his/her deathbed and I was sworn to reveal bits and pieces under the most obscure and mysterious of circumstances.  That would lead to a multi-book deal, hanging out with the heavyweights at the International Crash Retrieval Conference, many "Coast-to-Coast" apperances, and a featured interview in the next P. Kimball project: "Fast Walkers II:  Tales From Planets that Don't Exist".  Whee!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg, SERPO is poorly written drivel IMHO.  **But** - were I to go to all the trouble of recording that nonsense, I would have &#8220;gone Roswell&#8221;, leaked it out a little at a time and claimed my dad/mom/sister/uncle/brother/next door neighbor (pick one) actually made the trip and told me the tale on his/her deathbed and I was sworn to reveal bits and pieces under the most obscure and mysterious of circumstances.  That would lead to a multi-book deal, hanging out with the heavyweights at the International Crash Retrieval Conference, many &#8220;Coast-to-Coast&#8221; apperances, and a featured interview in the next P. Kimball project: &#8220;Fast Walkers II:  Tales From Planets that Don&#8217;t Exist&#8221;.  Whee!!</p>
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		<title>By: Shawnna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawnna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 14:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to see a focus on those behind these disinformation schemes.  

Rather than perpetuating the meme creation, let's explore why they are creating it in the first place.  

Now THAT would take some intestinal fortitude as it would be exposing those who have access to  power and influence in the US.

Unless perhaps you are part of that group?  :)  

I did notice 'Project Beta' included reference to Rick Doty's law credential - which all now know is another big fat fake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see a focus on those behind these disinformation schemes.  </p>
<p>Rather than perpetuating the meme creation, let&#8217;s explore why they are creating it in the first place.  </p>
<p>Now THAT would take some intestinal fortitude as it would be exposing those who have access to  power and influence in the US.</p>
<p>Unless perhaps you are part of that group?  <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I did notice &#8216;Project Beta&#8217; included reference to Rick Doty&#8217;s law credential - which all now know is another big fat fake.</p>
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		<title>By: paulkimball</title>
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		<dc:creator>paulkimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 08:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg:

Serpo?

I still can't believe that anyone fell for that one. 

What really offended me was not that it was a hoax (I've gotten used to them), but that it was such a transparently bad one.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>Serpo?</p>
<p>I still can&#8217;t believe that anyone fell for that one. </p>
<p>What really offended me was not that it was a hoax (I&#8217;ve gotten used to them), but that it was such a transparently bad one.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Brenton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Brenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Feb 2007 02:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg --

&lt;i&gt;I'm&lt;/i&gt; with ya.

As I've said here before, if it can't be verified, it's worthless.

I've stopped writing about UFOs because I have no interest in feeding the circus.  This is too important a subject to be sucked up into the black hole of these idiot mindgames.

Strawberry ice cream, anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211;</p>
<p><i>I&#8217;m</i> with ya.</p>
<p>As I&#8217;ve said here before, if it can&#8217;t be verified, it&#8217;s worthless.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve stopped writing about UFOs because I have no interest in feeding the circus.  This is too important a subject to be sucked up into the black hole of these idiot mindgames.</p>
<p>Strawberry ice cream, anyone?</p>
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