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	<title>Comments on: Carl Sagan Was A Pothead</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lehmberg (Alfred?)

Thanks for sharing that great piece of poetry! The man's religion was science, and I believe he thought that it could answer all questions, even some of those we consider religious. Nothing wrong with that, I just don't completely agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lehmberg (Alfred?)</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing that great piece of poetry! The man&#8217;s religion was science, and I believe he thought that it could answer all questions, even some of those we consider religious. Nothing wrong with that, I just don&#8217;t completely agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tengu,

I haven't read the novel or seen the film, but I know that Sagan had a real belief that there is other intelligent life out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tengu,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read the novel or seen the film, but I know that Sagan had a real belief that there is other intelligent life out there.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 23:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raven,

I read Nick Sagan's piece on his father. Sounds like he was a great dad and a we all know he was incredibly intelligent. The fact that he would take the time to talk to anyone on some interesting subject proves that he was not in the business of promoting science for his ego.

He wanted proof of ET visitation on scientific grounds--something that was testable and repeatable. UFOs do not provide this, at least not in any way where humans have control of the parameters. What I was lamenting was that he (and most other scientists) can't seem to step outside this paradigm. See my post on &lt;a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/reason-to-consider-the-eth/"&gt;"A Reason to Consider the ETH"&lt;/a&gt; for a probable turning point on this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raven,</p>
<p>I read Nick Sagan&#8217;s piece on his father. Sounds like he was a great dad and a we all know he was incredibly intelligent. The fact that he would take the time to talk to anyone on some interesting subject proves that he was not in the business of promoting science for his ego.</p>
<p>He wanted proof of ET visitation on scientific grounds&#8211;something that was testable and repeatable. UFOs do not provide this, at least not in any way where humans have control of the parameters. What I was lamenting was that he (and most other scientists) can&#8217;t seem to step outside this paradigm. See my post on <a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/reason-to-consider-the-eth/">&#8220;A Reason to Consider the ETH&#8221;</a> for a probable turning point on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Lehmberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lehmberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Sagan a full-tilt stoner and Crick wins the Nobel Prize as a result of taking LSD.  Terence McKenna said many times that the whole of cyberspace is a result of the hyperspace encountered via the tryptamines.

I composed this on the passing of CS:

As regards our Carl Sagan,
A hero of my youth,
Seems better he move onward
Before much longer in the tooth.

Still, he pulled me to a place beyond
Where comets are now foaming!
Smart and Brave, and flinching not,
He started me to roaming!

He fought against Doc Condon;
He stood for what was right!
He was asking pointed questions;
He stood for Truth's bright Light!

His startup was Promethean,
He did nothing I can hate;
Then, he avoided Stanton Friedman;
He walked away from that debate.

He scoffed, and sneered, and guffawed;
He smirked at Mack's abductions.
He made our science shallower,
And he narrowed its production.

He added to our ridicule.
He took some wrongful tacks.
Late in an elitist's life,
Was he blind to brave new fact?

It's the honored way of closed-off minds,
That they harden up with age?
Their part is all but over,
And they crap upon the stage!

They cannot say that they've been wrong,
They won't cop to newer info;
They don't tell you of some newfound truth,
Just *Distort* with innuendo.

History is littered here,
It's in your own experience!
The greatest can eclipse their greatness,
And betray their own ebullience.

Like Grant before his presidency,
Or Lugosi before "Plan 9."
Did Sagan take a low road?
Did he cover up some sign?

Did he do in fact what was accused?
Did he set our study back?
Did he prevaricate some issue?
Did he stab us in the back?

I'd prefer it not, or so I'll remember.
As he put me at the station --
Provided passage for _this_ old man
On his starship  -- "Imagination."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Sagan a full-tilt stoner and Crick wins the Nobel Prize as a result of taking LSD.  Terence McKenna said many times that the whole of cyberspace is a result of the hyperspace encountered via the tryptamines.</p>
<p>I composed this on the passing of CS:</p>
<p>As regards our Carl Sagan,<br />
A hero of my youth,<br />
Seems better he move onward<br />
Before much longer in the tooth.</p>
<p>Still, he pulled me to a place beyond<br />
Where comets are now foaming!<br />
Smart and Brave, and flinching not,<br />
He started me to roaming!</p>
<p>He fought against Doc Condon;<br />
He stood for what was right!<br />
He was asking pointed questions;<br />
He stood for Truth&#8217;s bright Light!</p>
<p>His startup was Promethean,<br />
He did nothing I can hate;<br />
Then, he avoided Stanton Friedman;<br />
He walked away from that debate.</p>
<p>He scoffed, and sneered, and guffawed;<br />
He smirked at Mack&#8217;s abductions.<br />
He made our science shallower,<br />
And he narrowed its production.</p>
<p>He added to our ridicule.<br />
He took some wrongful tacks.<br />
Late in an elitist&#8217;s life,<br />
Was he blind to brave new fact?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the honored way of closed-off minds,<br />
That they harden up with age?<br />
Their part is all but over,<br />
And they crap upon the stage!</p>
<p>They cannot say that they&#8217;ve been wrong,<br />
They won&#8217;t cop to newer info;<br />
They don&#8217;t tell you of some newfound truth,<br />
Just *Distort* with innuendo.</p>
<p>History is littered here,<br />
It&#8217;s in your own experience!<br />
The greatest can eclipse their greatness,<br />
And betray their own ebullience.</p>
<p>Like Grant before his presidency,<br />
Or Lugosi before &#8220;Plan 9.&#8221;<br />
Did Sagan take a low road?<br />
Did he cover up some sign?</p>
<p>Did he do in fact what was accused?<br />
Did he set our study back?<br />
Did he prevaricate some issue?<br />
Did he stab us in the back?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d prefer it not, or so I&#8217;ll remember.<br />
As he put me at the station &#8211;<br />
Provided passage for _this_ old man<br />
On his starship  &#8212; &#8220;Imagination.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tengu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tengu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 23:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my lifelong heroes (not that I have many)

For a very militant atheist his &lt;em&gt;Contact&lt;/em&gt; novel sets out his religious beliefs very well.</description>
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<p>For a very militant atheist his <em>Contact</em> novel sets out his religious beliefs very well.</p>
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		<title>By: Raven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 09:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an interesting alternative perspective, here's a blog entry by Carl's son, &lt;a href="http://nicksagan.blogs.com/nick_sagan_online/2006/12/dad.html"&gt;Nick Sagan&lt;/a&gt;.

Sagan was definitely a typically flawed human, but perhaps not much more so than the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an interesting alternative perspective, here&#8217;s a blog entry by Carl&#8217;s son, <a href="http://nicksagan.blogs.com/nick_sagan_online/2006/12/dad.html">Nick Sagan</a>.</p>
<p>Sagan was definitely a typically flawed human, but perhaps not much more so than the rest of us.</p>
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