You entire point is make believe fiction, not reality. That is where the New Age comparison comes into play.

It’s pointless for me to offer examples, because you have already made up your mind, are not really listening anyway, and your whole point is to shoot down whatever I offer or say. You seem to think I am arguing for a new age belief system over a scientific one. I am not. You are viewing this argument one way, interjecting false assumptions and whatnot, so you may as well continue it on alone.

My entire point was that all science is a product of collective experience, and that scientific inventions, notions, theories can be found previous to their actual, tangible manifestation, in myths, fictions, and alternate belief systems. I was not arguing for their VALUE in these systems one way or another. But, you continue to argue against a point I am not making, so I am finished with this ridiculous conversation with you.

No, we are arguing the same point but you just do not seem to get it.

“Perhaps the most mysterious and naive point you make is that science is separate from the realm of myth and the non-scientific”

I asked for some examples of this and you could not give any. Science is only mysterious and mythical to those who have never studied what science is.

“Does the method outweigh the message?”

Always. Messages are all talk and no action but methods are all action and not talk.

“Perhaps looking past wikipedia as a primary source would be in order”

What New Age book would you recommend in its place?

Just because you say so? I think not.

“‘Science’ is not a thinking, autonomous entitity–the people behind it are”

Science is never about people who call themselves scientists, it is only about methodologies — people (with their silly beliefs and illogical ideas) are irrelevant to science.

“And those people are rooted in myth and mysteries just as believers of the new age are”

Incorrect. Most scientists are atheists and do not believe in myths — New Age or otherwise.

“There are many stories within science that are inseparable from what you may term as ‘randomly thought up ideas’”

They are just that — stories and not facts.

“Francis crick and the dna revelation is a classic example”

That is one story, not many, and the science (not the person) is a very ordinary example of science overridding people’s quirks and lack of logic. See for yourself at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Crick

PS –

1) The theory I spoke of is deduced from the mathematics of hypothetical particles called strings — whereas the New Age version is based on making things up out of thin air. One has a semblance of science and one does not.

2) The belief in 12 dimensions is a popular but unaccepted theory due to lack of evidence for it’s existence.

3) Many other proposed theories propose a different number of dimensions, with six dimensions being a very common one.

4) You are still confusing the concept of dimension with the concept of planes of existence. They are not the same thing, therefore the New Age version of 12 planes of existence is not even close to being the same thing as the more scientifically thought out one of 12 dimensions.

Exactly. Those are only two of the many millions of ideas that were hanging around before science came along and caused the vast majority them go extinct because randomly thought up ideas, while they can accidentally hit the jackpot every once in awhile, is not at all reliable or consistent as science has been in coming up with ideas, ideas like automobiles, cell phones, desktop computers, running water, central heating and air conditioning, man on the moon, bullet proof plastics, and so on — all withing a short span of 100 years! And what has New Age done for us recently?