In the last two centuries, the scientific method has been responsible for producing electric light and power, radio, television, atomics, the entire science of organic chemistry ranging from dyes to synthetic drugs, automobiles, airplanes — practically an entirely new civilization! So what do you have that works better than that? Absolutely nothing. I will continue to stick with what has been proven to work while you continue to stagnate in your questionable methodology.

“Didn’t you mommy teach you what a paradox is?”

Who cares, unless you have a paradox somewhere that you would like to share with us?

“Jacques Vallee once stated that the human mind is not unlike a computer in that it’s only as good as the information it’s processing”

Why should any thinking person care what Jacques Vallee said?

“I contemptuously laugh in your general direction”

The laugh is on you, unless you can come up with something better than the scientific method.

You’re right, all that glitters is gold and science is objective and therefore infallible. And this is due to your “methodology”. No. I’m sorry, that’s just crass. Does your methodology stand up to your methodology? Didn’t you mommy teach you what a paradox is? Jacques Vallee once stated that the human mind is not unlike a computer in that it’s only as good as the information it’s processing.

“Their take on reality is not based on just their inaccurate senses or filtered opinions of what their inaccurate senses tell them, it is based on a very accurate and very successful methodology that goes beyond those things.”

I contemptuously laugh in your general direction.

“All information gathered from our senses is filtered by our brains, so everything is subjective. As a group, we have a consensus reality”

There is a group of people that are an exception to that rule and they are called scientists. Like I often tell people, science is not a democracy.
Their take on reality is not based on just their inaccurate senses or filtered opinions of what their inaccurate senses tell them, it is based on a very accurate and very successful methodology that goes beyond those things. If anyone is interested in the pursuit of truth, they would take the scientific approach only because there is no other approach that has worked in finding the truth as well and as repeatably as science has.

Hmmm… interesting point. Worth thinking about during the weekend

“UFOs are unpredictable, but so are idiots. UFOs have power but they have never displayed any incentive to use it.”

Ok, so we agree that UFOs are unpredictable & have power, at least?

What I am telling you is that the UFO fad is some kind of mass delusion with no objective existence at all.

No we can’t since you are filtering the data. UFOs have appeared everywhere, not just as nuclear bases, but people get more excited and remember the nuclear base visitations more so than the other kinds of visitations which the vast majority are nowhere near any nuclear bases. There are, on average, about 10,000 UFO sightings a year, and yet how many of those do you think involved jet chases?

“To threaten the whole human race to nuclear annihilation just to end a local war in Asia might be considered utter idiocy by some people”

What some people consider is unimportant since what is most important is that it is not idiocy. To be crazy implies having no purpose and having no self-restraint, and the alleged ETs do not fit that profile. Idiots have a purpose but they are just incompetent at fulfilling it, just like the ETs do.

UFOs are unpredictable, but so are idiots. UFOs have power but they have never displayed any incentive to use it. The whole point of being powerful and unpredictable is to intimidate your opponents, but clearly if UFOs occupants are so far advanced above us that they would not have a need to intimidate us. It would be a stupid thing to do, especially for as long as they have been doing it, which only further proves that they are idiots is they have been doing so. Sorry but no, the madman theory doesn’t work here because it is only a human tactic requiring a human way of thinking that doesn’t work very well every time it is used.

No Sage, but they have appeared near nuclear bases of both super-powers and playfully dodged Air Force jetfighters of several countries (like Iran & Brazil) when they scramble to intercept them. We can recognize that as a display of power, eventhough we have yet to understand its ultimate purpose.

“If you take a closer look at your analogy, you will see that it is flawed.
Remember, Nixon acted like he was crazy, not like he was an idiot like the ETs do. If the ETs have a purpose, they are not consistently displaying a single purpose, as Nixon did — and that is what a *purpose* implies.”

To threaten the whole human race to nuclear annihilation just to end a local war in Asia might be considered utter idiocy by some people, Sage

You’re right the UFOs/aliens/whatever do not seem to display a single purpose, or maybe the ultimate purpose requires different staged phases. Nixon’s plan had an ultimate purpose (end Vietnam) but consisted of several stages: make the north-vietnamese nervous at the Paris talks, send Kissinger with the russians to warn them his boss had the finger on the button, and scramble the bombers across the Artic.

Anyway, the whole point of the comparison was to speculate that the madman theory only works—or was intended to work— when your opponent think your actions are unpredictable, and that you’re powerful enough to accomplish your intentions, eventhough those are not clear to him. With those two ingredients your opponent may be quick to listen to your demands the moment you state them.

Unpredictability & power. That IMO can be found in the UFO phenomenon, and that may be one of the reasons some governments decided to mantain their covert studies of UFOs classified—until now. If there’s something that makes men in uniform nervous is a threat they cannot control, and if that threat does not follow familiar scenarios, well… does 9/11 ring a bell?

“It isn’t wild speculation, it is inventing excuses to try and keep a belief alive that otherwise would die.”

Maybe you’re right. But by now you should know that I’m a sucker for “what ifs”

Anyway, I really don’t put too much weight on my own “theory”, but it’s interesting to think about, nonetheless.

So UFOs want us to think they are going to use nuclear weapons against us?

If you take a closer look at your analogy, you will see that it is flawed.
Remember, Nixon acted like he was crazy, not like he was an idiot like the ETs do. If the ETs have a purpose, they are not consistently displaying a single purpose, as Nixon did — and that is what a *purpose* implies.

“Pure wild speculation, I know. But still…”

It isn’t wild speculation, it is inventing excuses to try and keep a belief alive that otherwise would die.

PS — UFOs have *never* been observed to act crazy. Crazy implies lack of reason or self-control and UFOs have never been observed to display either.