Dec 22 2006
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What Does the Government Know? (conclusion)
What of the MJ-12 documents, the “SOM-101″manual (a leaked document with instructions on how to deal with downed UFOs), military insiders coming out with revelations and many others? To their credit, Robert Wood and his son Ryan have spent countless hours looking into the provenance of these tantalizing bits of information. About 8 years ago, I was able to examine one of the MJ-12-related documents Bob Wood had in his possession. He described his investigation into the issues described in the document, and the people mentioned therein. Most impressively, there were small holes in the document where samples had been taken for laboratory tests. The physical evidence passed with flying colors i.e. the paper and ink used in printing were contemporary to the period described. Curiously, though, the paper was not a series of 8 1/2 x 11″pages, but a large sheet which unfolded on which the pages were reproduced.
This opens up a whole new series of questions. One of the first ones that comes to mind is why the document was in such a strange format. It is almost as if someone copied the pages en masse for some other reason than inter-departmental distribution. Perhaps an intel agency was thinking ahead way back in the 1950s or ’60s and had begun (or continued) the disinfo program with the idea of eventual “leaks” to UFO hobbyists or foreign agents would be looking for them.
Admittedly, this verges on procrustean reasoning, (why not just say the documents are real and describe real events and issues) but when taking all of these “leaks” into account, there is one glaring omission: as far as I know, there is no instance in all of these documents or personal recollections of any conclusions as to where these beings were coming from, what they were doing here, and why. After Projects Sign, Grudge, Bluebook, and others of which we may never be aware, the government still apparently has no idea what is causing all this fuss. They may simply be grasping at whatever they can by spying on UFO researchers to help them answer the biggest question of all. This means that while they may have have accepted the reality of extra-human evidence, perhaps they really don’t know much more than the rest of us.
Hence, the reason for all the secrecy. To admit that you know they’re here, but you don’t know why or how to control it would be P.R. suicide. The obverse side of this situation can be used to an advantage. The UFO mystery is definitely a concern for national security, so here is what you do:
“Accidentally” let everyone know that you are quite aware of it, and appear to keep the biggest secret hidden. From this attitude grows a fruitful harvest of advantages: 1) Coverup of leading-edge technology including possible anti-gravity craft, a permanent human presence in space, and camouflage (invisibility) research (among others.) 2) A scenario for attracting the attention of foreign agents who are looking for evidence of these technologies, therefore keeping the subject behind the “laughter curtain” while drawing interested parties into your web, and 3) Keeping a finger on the pulse of public reaction to revelations that we are in fact, not alone.
And what of the “UFO Working Group” mentioned in the last installment? One reader remarked correctly that much of it had to do with the remote viewing program and the attempts by some of the members of that arcane unit to look at the issue with psychic insight. Ultimately, as might be surmised, they came up with very little, but the usual suspects went on into civilian life still searching for the source of all the rumors and whispered asides they heard while in the employ of the military and its many branches. Why did they do this if at least some of them may have had access to the real info? Check the member list of the Society For Scientific Exploration if you doubt this idea. (Actually, I think you need to be a member to see this list, but anyone can join.)
Strieber and to a lesser extent, some of the contactees may have the key to something that has eluded officialdom from the beginning. In Jerome Clark’s UFO Encyclopedia there is a picture of retired Bluebook head Captain Ed Ruppelt at the 1955 Giant Rock Interplanetary Convention. What was he doing there?
John Keel is more prescient than he knew.
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December 22nd, 2006 at 12:05 pm
On another topic in the blog I made a comment about sitting in a vault room in a DIA operations area decades ago, scan-reading through documents (they regarded certain Soviet military technologies)all stamped TOP SECRET UMBRA (don’t flip out…that codeword has LONG been “blown”), and all listing the intel source as the Soviet news agency TASS.
Point is, if you’re going to the Russians as open-source material for your own intelligence info, why would you not also go to the civilian UFO research organizations and penetrate them, not only in an effort to work your disinfo magic, but also to try and pick the brains at those groups (NICAP. APRO, etc.) to see if THEY had any better notions than YOU did regarding who “the visitors” were and why “the visitors” were here. Such would certainly be a practical course of action if you, yourself, didn’t have half the handle on the situation you wanted others to think you did. Some times you have to take your information where you can GET it. LOL!!
It may well be that the government got “something” in terms of hardware and perhaps bodies in some of the perceived crash situations, but with all the disinfo that swirls around all this (one reason intelligence work is labeled by some a “wilderness of mirrors”) its afully hard to say. It could be that they do have “acquisitions” and have done research on same and learned a few retro-engineering tricks…BUT, as to larger contexts of Who “they” are , what they want,and where they come from….the G-Men may not really know (just as you say, Greg) much more than did Orfeo Angelucci or George Adamski.
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:19 pm
The most credible MJ12 document is the Cutler-Twining memo, which cross- references to the Lew Douglas memo, thus establishing its historical authenticity. Read all about it in Jim Martin’s book, Wilhelm Reich and the Cold War or in Steamshovel Press #21.
Nice new blog site, guys!
kt
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:42 pm
Bill:
Interesting point re. Tass! There’s so many twists and turns in the MJ12 saga that it inevitably ends up with people not knowing what is goin on at all - which may be the Government’s intention.
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:42 pm
Kenn
Good to see you here.
Nick
December 22nd, 2006 at 12:58 pm
Kenn–YOU’RE HERE! Hooray!
The Cutler-Twining memo establishes that there was indeed a group called MJ-12 in the era of the other documents in the ouvre, but it unfortunately does not prove that it was a UFO study and policy group.
Bill, I recall that someone once said something like, “The stuff that is available publicly is more scary than you can imagine.”
December 22nd, 2006 at 1:26 pm
Greg…the stuff that I am specifically talking about here was scarier than that!!! WE had some fairly elaborate systems in play to catch some of the things the Russkies were doing tecno-wise…indeed, that was the whole POINT of our project (maybe that’s why it later got canceled)…but we MISSED THEM in real time, and could only to do analysis in “post” through TASS press releases. That’s pretty embarrassing (though not to me…I had thought the whole thing “kooky” from the start and just got secret kicks watching the DIA civilians drip sweat over what they were going to report to their higher ups at the Pentagon! LOL!!!)
And, of course, I can’t tell you anything more detailed or specific than this or…you know…I’d have to…
December 22nd, 2006 at 3:28 pm
By the way, for those who don’t know, Adam Gorightly and Kenn Thomas, who have begun posting to the blog, are two of best writers in their genre.
Check out Adam’s “The Prankster and the Conspiracy” and “The Shadow over Santa Susana.”
“Prankster” is essential reading for anyone interested in weirder aspects of the Kennedy assassination. And it’s published by the good people at Paraview.
Also: check out Kenn’s “Maury Island UFO” and “The Octopus.”
“Maury” deals with one of the stranger UFO cases of the late 40s, which leads right into the JFK killing.
And “Octopus” is a story of high-level assassination, shadowy Intel groups, and much, much more.
Buy ‘em!
December 22nd, 2006 at 8:35 pm
I blush at the compliments, gents!
The Cutler-Twining “triangulated” with the Douglas memo shows that the MJ-12 “Special Studies” group probably had to do with Wilhelm Reich reporting his UFO experiences to the Air Force. It remains to be seen whether or not MJ-12 was some kind of psy-op or not, but it certainly was connected to UFOs. (Robert Cutler was a psy-op expert for Eisenhower’s NSA and wrote the “Atoms for Peace” speech that copped a phrase from Reich.)
kt
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:31 am
Kenn,
I notice you say “probably,’ and the fact that the Air Force was interested in Reich reporting his UFO experiences does not conclusively prove that MJ-12 was a (as I said earlier) “UFO study and policy group.” If they were interested in UFOs re: Reich, it does not follow that that was their whole reason for existing.
I don’t think MJ-12 was a psyhological operation, but I do have a strong suspicion that UFOs, if part of the program, was a small one. The whole post-1987 furor about it probably was a psy-op for the benefit of the UFO research community and those who would look to it for info, especially foreign powers.
By the way, as I recall from his book “Contact With Space,” Reich had to bother the Air Force at least twice before anyone decided to talk to him, and as it turned out, he sent assistant William Moise to Wright Patterson AFB for the briefing, since he was busy traveling to Arizona for the “OROP Desert EA” operation there in 1954. The AF said that a General would be at the meeting, and then sent a lowly Captain and some civilian man who “was working with the Air Force in regard to the history of UFOS.” Sounds like they didn’t take him that seriously.
Sorry that it took Nick to point out our august company here!
December 23rd, 2006 at 12:55 am
Bill,
What was your background that you were sitting in a DIA vault and looking at Russian defense tech? Go ahead and tell me, you’ll have to find me to…you know.
Rick Doty and others have let slip plenty and I’m still here-I think.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:18 am
Some of the documentation gets even more unreliable than old Soviet docs. I’ve seen rags like the National Enquirer footnoted in some “research” work. I gave up trying to follow the MJ-12 doc story years ago because there seemed to be so much disinformation and fraud inherent in them I couldn’t keep straight what was a “maybe” and what was “ancient fraud history”.
One document that has been interesting is the photo enhanced Roger Ramey memo nicely presented by David Rudiak. The materials on his website date from December of 2002. Does anyone know if there’s been any further efforts to enhance it and get the definitive text?
December 23rd, 2006 at 3:25 am
That was the way it looked before Jim Martin’s book. Again, we have Cutler of the infamous C-T memo taking phrases from Reich for important Eisenhower foreign policy speeches, and in the C-T memo MJ12 postpones its special studies committee in order to wait for a briefing about material it was getting from Reich. I’d say thet were taking Reich seriously.
Tripping over the details of Reich’s bio aside, my original point was that the C-T crossed with the Douglas is the hardest proof of the existence of MJ12. The one Wood document I used in the Maury Island book came with a disclaimer not to contentrate on the provenance of the page itself. In other words, it may have been from a hoaxer trying to teach a history lesson.
You can hold the C-T in your hands if you go to the National Archives in Suitland, but the archivist I talked to there admitted that the archives does not have a fool-proof protocol against smuggling things in. So even though the typeface and paper lot are authentic, it still would be possible for the C-T memo itself to be a hoax–IF the date didn’t match so perfectly with what Martin uncovered in an obscure archives in Arizona.
So are you saying that the late-80s brouhaha over MJ12 was a psy-op but the one over the Woods-surfaced documents definitely is not? Or are you suggesting that MJ12 is an ongoing psy-op in ufology?
December 23rd, 2006 at 4:17 am
Let’s not forget all the MAJESTIC material given to the UFO world by William Cooper. More psy op? John Judge and Alex Constantine seem to think so. I think that gives Cooper too much credit in one area and not enough in another. He took a bullet for what he believed about the way his taxes money was spent–but an agent? Cooper?
But check out the latest issue of Smithsonian. It has an article about the USS Oriskany, one of the ships upon which Cooper served, which was recently destroyed. No mention of Cooper there (Steamshovel published Cooper’s photo from an Oriskany yearbook), but the article mentions that John McCain and Vice Admiral James Stockdale also served on the Oriskany. The ship can be seen in the movie Bridges of Toko-Ri and is described by Tom Wolfe in The Right Stuff.
December 23rd, 2006 at 1:46 pm
Greg,
RE: Sitting in the vault
Somewhere here in the blog archives (I think with The “Jack the Ripper” topic or “The Dolphins”) are commentary exchanges between “Raven” and myself where the subject of conversation got off onto Dan Sherman and his supposed Black Ops Alien Contact doings and I had commented on the fact that where he claimed he’d worked in a vault, I didn’t think that was all that whoopy-doopy because I had done that, too, and so what?
To back-track, and simplify things (though Nick can tell you a little about me there), so you won’t have to look under every posting I’ve made here, I’ll just give you a rundown:
I am a Cold War/Vietnam era veteran of Army Intelligence, now a wholesale importer of Far East Goods. The MI branch that I belonged to was the old Army Security Agency (ASA), the Army’s operational component of the National Security Agency (ASA is now known as the Intelligence & Security Command, or INSCOM…read anything by James Bamford for an overview). My duties were, for most of my military career, in SIGINT capacities for NSA.
This was in “colorful Asian Countries”.
When I returned to the U.S. for my last year in the service I was an E5 Specialist 5, a rank now done away with. It was equivalent to “Buck Sergeant”, like Vic Morrow’s Sgt. Saunders on “Combat”.
When I came back I expected to be doing more NSA crypto stuff but I got a surprise. The SIGINT facility at Vint Hill Farms Station, outside Warrenton, VA,(now closed) also had a sizable DIA contingent and they had a research project they wanted bodies for, so they cut a deal with ASA and “appropriated” about a dozen of us analytical techies for this thing.
DIA had a hall of their own in the main ops building and about twelve suites or so along it (IF memory serves me correctly…this was the early 70s and water has been flowing under the bridge since then). I think about 3, perhaps, of those suites were vaults. Our room suite was. it was a safe type door with a punch-in access code required. If you weren’t on “the list” you didn’t get in.
The project was about trying to evaluate an experimental technique for detecting ICBM launches from “them” from over-the-horizon (OHD). Effort was to “see over” the curvature of the earth in a way that radar couldn’t, to give you a little more lead time if somebody hit an ICBM hot button. Can’t go into anymore detail about it than that. Sometimes it worked and sometimes not and eventually, because it was a “pain in the patootie” to pull off, and because the ever-developing satellite photography capability of the National Reconnaissance Office quickly made it obsolete and redundant, the Pentagon pulled the plug on it.
Only thing truly interesting about it was that, from time to time, an unidentifiable something might get picked up that we couldn’t say was
something out of the Baikonur or Tyura Tam or Sary Shagan launch sites, an “unknown”, and it was amusing that there were direct connections to NSA Fort Meade (DEFSMAC..Defense Space Missile Activity Center) for such, and NIIC (pronounced, humorously enough, “NICK”), the National Intelligence Indications Center at Cheyenne Mountain. “Unknowns” COULD be new launch packages we were unfamiliar with, or they could be “something else”. On some of these we got techno feedback. On others we got silence.
Draw whatever conclusions you want to there.
Anyway, that’s why I was in the vault. And on the “swing’ and “mid’ shifts we could listen to taped rock n’ roll and play cards the whole shift, because nobody could sneak in on us and we didn’t have to LET ‘em in if we didn’t WANT to! LOL!
December 23rd, 2006 at 6:06 pm
This may not be the most popular place to voice this opinion, but as a government employee I find it very hard to believe in some of the conspiracy theories.
The big Roswell, ET, reverse engineered UFO conspiracy theory is the hardest one to believe. It’s right up there with people who believe the US Government is the perpetrator behind 9/11.
I have found that often the government has a hard time wiping it’s own arse, nevermind keeping secrets or perpetuating massive conspiracies. It just isn’t efficient or motivated enough. The biggest conspiracy is that these agencies pretend to have control over things that they do not. If you ask me department of homeland defense is public enemy number one in this case. By issuing random prohibitions of nail clippers and starbucks coffee in airport terminals they state they have a handle on terrorist plots. When the reality is that if the terrorists really want to strike they will and when these plots are sniffed out and snuffed it’s blind luck or really brilliant investigative work, just in the nick of time. The US sacked all of it’s good intelligence assets under Ford and Carter and now we are smarting for it. I wish the MIB were on our side (like the movie) and the problem is that I think they are definitely not.
Likely scenario, the governments of the world don’t have a clue as to what to think about the UFO problem. They infiltrate groups to garner what they can and are usually disappointed due to the “true believers” and the “space brother” culties who don’t give up any useful data. When ultra black projects are discovered it’s usually an embarrassment because the air force hates to admit that they used remote viewers to try and locate Saddam Hussein. Taxpayers hate to read that the Air force used remote viewers in an attempt to find Saddam Hussein. Especially when it didn’t work.
December 23rd, 2006 at 8:00 pm
Raven,
The one study on this issue that I really like was conducted by Kevin Randle and James Houran for the SSE journal, available as a PDF here.
What they did was take three groups of people and front-load them with one of three different scenarios:
1) That it had to do with the Roswell Incident,
2) that it was about an atomic bomb mishap, or
3) Nothing at all.
Not surprisingly, they found that the expectations of the group figured heavily in their deciphering of the message. It’s a quick download and a fascinating study which suggests that we will never be able to conclusively figure out what was on that piece of paper!
December 24th, 2006 at 1:28 am
Kenn,
We can discuss this issue until there are 1000+ posts on this thread, but ultimately, like most everything here, we are not going to get definitive proof of anything. The study of the UFO subject (and to some extent the conspiracy world) thrives on debate and speculation. I think that the mere fact that we are putting these ideas out there, casting doubt (that valuable commodity) on the status quo and smug know-it-all thinking is reason enough for our involvement. Most people stop questioning things–really important things like who holds power over us (politically, spiritually, intellectually) and what they do to keep that power. Your site, among others keeps the debate and doubt alive.
Sorry if this seems like a cop-out on our discussion, but it takes a lot of time to answer these posts!
By the way, I think that Cooper WANTED to take that bullet, partly because he wanted to make the ultimate statement, but mostly because he was mentally unstable.
December 24th, 2006 at 1:33 am
Bill,
Thanks for the clarification. Strange you should mention over-the-horizon radar, as one of the projects uncovered by Chris Lambright many years ago concerned a project called “MAYBELL” which was a DOD study in the early 1970s, I think. The project was mentioned in one of the documents given to Bill Moore. It was highly-classified research into OHR.
Just one more example of a counter-intel fishing trip leaked out through a UFO researcher.
December 24th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
Well, the CT/Douglas crossover is definitive proof of the existence of MJ12. It’s a rare nugget of info that is not simply someone’s opinion and thus should be revered. As for Cooper, whatever opinion we may have about him, if we really want to study the extent to which the UFO community was co-opted by a government psy-op in the 80s, I suspect some of the answers can be found in a more detailed examination of his life and times.
But anyway, yeah, these posts take up a lot of time. Have a good holiday and we’ll be in touch later.
“)
kt
December 26th, 2006 at 11:50 pm
Greg…
Re : Maybell (OHR)
This one wasn’t Maybell. I think there were three or four of these things running as research at about the same time. This one, should you ever encounter it…and of course I can neither confirm or deny…blah, blah, blah…would SOUND “French” to your ears, and READ somewhat “French” to your eyes…and might make you think of Medieval days and, perhaps, the Society of Creative Anachronism. That’s as far as I can go with it, Bubba. You’re on your own from here.
This one, like the Maybell project you mentioned, was highly classified, too. Being highly classified, though, doesn’t mean it will eventually pan out as something really hubba-hubba.This one certainly didn’t. It turned basically obsolescent before it was a year old. C’est l’guerre!!
December 27th, 2006 at 12:01 am
In many ways I find myself in agreement with Dingodog99’s assessment of government agencies. The government, that great amorphous entity of supposedly diabolical cleverness and relentless malfeasance…generally can’t find it’s butt with both hands in a phone booth. That’s why most of these fabulous conspiracy theories leave ME convulsing with laughter as much as it seems to with some of the other posters here.
December 28th, 2006 at 1:05 am
Well, Bill, thanks for the heads-up, if only to confirm your bona-fides!
Also, you only need to look at how well and how long the SR-71 was kept secret (about 15 years) to see that not ALL government employees and contractors have trouble finding their rear ends in a confined space.
April 10th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Greg, I assume you actually meant the A-12, first of the Lockheed Blackbirds, that first flew at Area 51 in April 1962. The Blackbirds were only “in the black” for a little less than two years. The Blackbird made its public debut in February 1964 when president Lyndon Johnson announced the existence of the YF-12A. The SR-71 made its first flight in full view of the public in December 1964. Both the YF-12A and SR-71 efectively served as a cover for the A-12 until its retirement in June 1968. Any sightings of the A-12 by unauthorized persons would be attributed to the YF-12A or SR-71. The existence of the A-12 variant was finally acknowledged in 1981. It was nearly unveiled in 1976, but plans to place the remaining A-12 airframes in outdoor storage were delayed several years.
April 10th, 2007 at 11:44 pm
Whisperstream,
You got me. Actually, I meant the F-117A, developed starting in 1976, and finally unveiled to the public in 1990 (although announced in 1988.) I am still trying to figure out if one of them crashed in northwestern NM in the fall of 1985. Two others crashed in NM in 1992 and 1995.
April 11th, 2007 at 8:08 pm
Development of the XST stealth technology demonstrator began in 1975.
The project was renamed HAVE BLUE in April 1976 and placed under Air
Force management as a special access program. In July 1976, Aerospace
Daily ran a lengthy article headlined “Lockheed’s Kelly Johnson
Building ‘Stealth’ Aircraft.” Through mid-1977, Aviation Week & Space
Technology (AW&ST) magazine ran a series of short, but reasonably
accurate stories about the stealth demonstrator project. Descriptions
of a larger, fighter-sized, stealth aircraft started appearing in the
1978-1979 edition of Jane’s All The World’s Aircraft.
Criticism of leaks about the stealth program led William J. Perry
(undersecretary of defense for research and engineering) to comment:
“I told the secretary that with good luck we could conceal program’s
existence for two years. In fact, we have kept its very existence
secret for more than three years.” [The last sentence doesn't seem very accurate in view of the Aerospace Daily and AW&ST articles.]
In late 1981, AW&ST reported that the “Lockheed Stealth fighter,
approximately the size of the Navy/Northrop/McDonnell Douglas F-18,
will fly this year.” It had in fact already flown in June, but much
of the information contained in the article was fairly accurate.
Crashes of stealth aircraft brought the project back into the news.
Both HAVE BLUE demonstrators crashed, one in 1978 and the other in
1979. The first production F-117A (Article 785) crashed at Area 51 in
April 1982. The crash of Article 792 near Bakersfield, California, in
July 1986 generated a media frenzy when the Air Force decided not to
use their ready-made A-7 cover story. Article 815 crashed on the
Nellis Air Force Range in October 1987.
The Defense Department publicly unveiled the F-117A, by way of a
grainy photo, in November 1988 and acknowledged the crashes.
Subsequently, a number of clear photos and video footage were
released in 1990. Several of the airplanes made a public appearance
at Nellis AFB, Nevada, in April and public fly-bys took place at
Burbank and Palmdale, California, in July during the rollout of the
final production airframe (Article 843).
Article 801 crashed in a suburb of Alamogordo, New Mexico, in August
1992. Article 822 crashed near Zuni, New Mexico, in May 1995. Article
793 was lost during an air show near Baltimore, Maryland, in
September 1997. Article 806 was shot down over Budjanovci,
Yugoslavia, in March 1999.
No other F-117A aircraft have been lost. If you have a mystery crash in New Mexico, it’s not an F-117A, but I would be interested in learning more about it. An exact date and precise crash location would be helpful.
April 11th, 2007 at 10:41 pm
Thanks for the info. The crash I was interested in happened in late October or early November of 1988 near Dulce, NM, just south of the Colorado border. Since the F-117A crashes are accounted for, it may have been a UAV on a test flight. The AFOSI were very interested in keeping this incident under wraps. I am trying to find out what crashed and why it would be kept a secret. See the illustration section of my book “Project Beta” for a rough drawing of the aircraft as seen from the air by a civilian observer. I also have reason to believe that the CIA and/or NSA were involved with Lockheed on this project.
April 12th, 2007 at 11:49 am
Thanks for the quick response, Greg. Narrowing down the date is somewhat helpful. It would be interesting to examine the crash site, but “near Dulce, NM, just south of the Colorado border” doesn’t narrow the search area down quite enough. Did the civilian observer get any approximate coordinates?
There were a number of classified manned and unmanned projects under develoment during that timeframe, but information about specific configurations is somewhat limited. Articles undergoing developmental testing were generally confined to the ranges. Those that made it into production went off-range for operational test and evaluation. Unmanned vehicles have, from time to time, wandered off-range on their own when controllers lost contact with them.
April 14th, 2007 at 11:22 am
That’s as accurate as I can be right now. I’ll have to look into some files to pinpoint the date and location. I gather that these things don’t happen very often, so if there was a crash of anything that was classified anywhere near the area in the timeframe specified, it shouldn’t be hard to locate. I think what you are suggeesting is that specific search terms are required for database searches.
What I have been able to gather is that there may have been testing of UAVs out of Fort Collins or Kirtland AFB at the time.
Thanks for your info and interest.
April 14th, 2007 at 3:51 pm
Actually, I’m not so much looking for search terms as I am seeking a search area. It’s not exactly conveninet for me to visit northern New Mexico, but I would do it if I could narrow my search area to a manageable size. Admittedly, that doesn’t always help. Even having geographic coordinates from an accident report often leaves much to be desired. The desert seems a lot bigger when you are standing in the middle of it.
This incident must not have generated much, if any, public interest at the time. Was there any media coverage. The F-117A crash at Bakersfield was a media circus. On the other hand, some incidents were quashed with cover stories (A-12 at Wendover) or simply never made it into the papers (D-21B in central Nevada). Finding the crash site could answer a lot of questions, such as the identity of the aircraft manufacturer, etc.