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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/caret-drone-video/#comment-3388</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kris,

We're surprised and honored to have you comment at the site. Do you think you'll do any more UFO-related work? We'd sure post it here!

You pointed out that there are still ways to examine photos and videos for fakery. That's why, In my original post, I said that "&lt;em&gt;almost&lt;/em&gt; no UFO/ paranormal video or photographic 'evidence' can ever be taken seriously."

You can see my various responses to the CARET/ drone episode in &lt;a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/caret-issac-ufo-symbols/" rel="nofollow"&gt;other&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/ufo-issac-caret-chad-probe/" rel="nofollow"&gt;posts&lt;/a&gt; on this site. Actually, my desktop at present is a detail from the CARET documents.

Once again: GREAT WORK! I particularly liked the way you worked your credits into the graphics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kris,</p>
<p>We&#8217;re surprised and honored to have you comment at the site. Do you think you&#8217;ll do any more UFO-related work? We&#8217;d sure post it here!</p>
<p>You pointed out that there are still ways to examine photos and videos for fakery. That&#8217;s why, In my original post, I said that &#8220;<em>almost</em> no UFO/ paranormal video or photographic &#8216;evidence&#8217; can ever be taken seriously.&#8221;</p>
<p>You can see my various responses to the CARET/ drone episode in <a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/caret-issac-ufo-symbols/" rel="nofollow">other</a> <a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/ufo-issac-caret-chad-probe/" rel="nofollow">posts</a> on this site. Actually, my desktop at present is a detail from the CARET documents.</p>
<p>Once again: GREAT WORK! I particularly liked the way you worked your credits into the graphics.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 19:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPJ,

Actually, the idea that Kris had anything to do with the original documents/ pictures hadn't even crossed my mind, at least in a serious way.

I don't see anything about it yet on the Unknown Country or Earthfiles sites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPJ,</p>
<p>Actually, the idea that Kris had anything to do with the original documents/ pictures hadn&#8217;t even crossed my mind, at least in a serious way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see anything about it yet on the Unknown Country or Earthfiles sites.</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok Kris, I replied to your comment on Daily Grail, but once again I give you kudos for your work.

PS: maybe you're right in that photographic evidence is not COMPLETELY useless, but that sure means any serious UFO researcher shoul get as much acquainted with photorealistic software as he/she possibly can! The game has indeed become more difficult (and our team hasn't event had the chance at the bat!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok Kris, I replied to your comment on Daily Grail, but once again I give you kudos for your work.</p>
<p>PS: maybe you&#8217;re right in that photographic evidence is not COMPLETELY useless, but that sure means any serious UFO researcher shoul get as much acquainted with photorealistic software as he/she possibly can! The game has indeed become more difficult (and our team hasn&#8217;t event had the chance at the bat!)</p>
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		<title>By: uv777bk</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/caret-drone-video/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>uv777bk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 15:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would definitely seem to be the case that if you want go get yourself noticed in CGI that faking a UFO is a pretty good way of going about it.

The Isaac/Caret stuff, however, is getting extraordinarily 'long in the tooth'.  I would suggest to whoever may be faking this stuff that the interest is now way over the hill and it's about time they told us what the hell the point of this is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would definitely seem to be the case that if you want go get yourself noticed in CGI that faking a UFO is a pretty good way of going about it.</p>
<p>The Isaac/Caret stuff, however, is getting extraordinarily &#8216;long in the tooth&#8217;.  I would suggest to whoever may be faking this stuff that the interest is now way over the hill and it&#8217;s about time they told us what the hell the point of this is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 04:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPJ:

Personally I think this is a great piece of footage with cool background music too. We should enjoy it for what it is - a cool piece of entertainment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPJ:</p>
<p>Personally I think this is a great piece of footage with cool background music too. We should enjoy it for what it is - a cool piece of entertainment.</p>
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		<title>By: krisavery</title>
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		<dc:creator>krisavery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll post the same reply I put up on daily grail... 

but i will add before i do, that it does not render photographic evidence useless! It just means we need to develop the techniques used to spot the fakes. CG is only the new hub cap being thrown into the sky! Nothing more. In fact CG is (with techniques being developed) more prone to being found out! 

Anyway, here is my general responce, even though this article doesn't put the same spin on the video. But it perhaps answers red pills comment I hope. Thanks! :)

p.s. Thanks for the nice comments! Glad you like the video! : D

&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;Daily grail post&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;&#62;

Hi folks,

listen, you can take me straight OFF the hoaxers list...

If the drone case was hoaxed.. if (because it has yet to be proven) it was not me. Feelings about the possibility of what you imagine this case to be do not make it so. It is way more complicated than that. My video (to some) can only ever show that it is possible that the drones could be the result of CG, not that they are. There is much to be done before that is proven positive or negative.

I will also reply to the comment about how easy it was to create this video. It wasn't! It took a fair amount of time, and was not a walk in the park. 

I'm very glad that the video has been enjoyed, and I am extremely flattered by some of the wonderful feedback! I never expected such a resounding response. But it was not created to debunk, and the wide majority of people who have seen it don't think so either. It is a dedication to some of the extremely talented and intelligent people who have put many many hours of study into this case. It is also a result of the artistic inspiration I have drawn from the unique imagery in the drones and the CARET documents. Ultimately, it was created to breathe life into objects we have only ever seen as flat 2D images, while bringing some entertainment and enjoyment along the way!

Whether real or not, there are some amazing visual aspects  in the original presented evidence. I think the primer part of the video presents this inspiration to the fullest.

So please, don't dismiss the drone case outright because my work looks pretty close. It took a lot of work to get them as close as they are. A lot of studying of the images.

The answer to this case is personal to everyone, but no one has 'proved' anything. Merely provided possibilities, and there are so many of these to choose from. To dismiss this case on a feeling is to dismiss the search for the truth. 

I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven't proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn't been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don't think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end.
It is over when it is proven one way or the other, not before.
To say such is to belittle the hard work done by some very dedicated researchers. This I have learned along the way!

Final note. The special thanks to Linda Moulton Howe is for the kind lending of her voice to the amazing piece of music by 'Drone'. She is not related to the video in the sense of her involvement in any way. I have never spoken to her myself. But I take this opportunity to thank her again for sounding so cool on the track! It wouldn't be so good without her on there, and it gives the music a backbone that makes sense of the images.

Anyway, I hope this message clears a few things up. I refuse to be the debunkers champion, or any such nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I honestly hope everyone makes up their own mind, as opposed to being swayed by the flat conclusions of others.

That's it really. Maybe you could post this letter a little more prominently? As I don't really like being tagged with the hoaxer brush. I want to make it VERY CLEAR, that the original evidence has nothing to do with me.

Thanks and the kindest of regards, 

Kris : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll post the same reply I put up on daily grail&#8230; </p>
<p>but i will add before i do, that it does not render photographic evidence useless! It just means we need to develop the techniques used to spot the fakes. CG is only the new hub cap being thrown into the sky! Nothing more. In fact CG is (with techniques being developed) more prone to being found out! </p>
<p>Anyway, here is my general responce, even though this article doesn&#8217;t put the same spin on the video. But it perhaps answers red pills comment I hope. Thanks! <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>p.s. Thanks for the nice comments! Glad you like the video! : D</p>
<p>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;Daily grail post&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Hi folks,</p>
<p>listen, you can take me straight OFF the hoaxers list&#8230;</p>
<p>If the drone case was hoaxed.. if (because it has yet to be proven) it was not me. Feelings about the possibility of what you imagine this case to be do not make it so. It is way more complicated than that. My video (to some) can only ever show that it is possible that the drones could be the result of CG, not that they are. There is much to be done before that is proven positive or negative.</p>
<p>I will also reply to the comment about how easy it was to create this video. It wasn&#8217;t! It took a fair amount of time, and was not a walk in the park. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m very glad that the video has been enjoyed, and I am extremely flattered by some of the wonderful feedback! I never expected such a resounding response. But it was not created to debunk, and the wide majority of people who have seen it don&#8217;t think so either. It is a dedication to some of the extremely talented and intelligent people who have put many many hours of study into this case. It is also a result of the artistic inspiration I have drawn from the unique imagery in the drones and the CARET documents. Ultimately, it was created to breathe life into objects we have only ever seen as flat 2D images, while bringing some entertainment and enjoyment along the way!</p>
<p>Whether real or not, there are some amazing visual aspects  in the original presented evidence. I think the primer part of the video presents this inspiration to the fullest.</p>
<p>So please, don&#8217;t dismiss the drone case outright because my work looks pretty close. It took a lot of work to get them as close as they are. A lot of studying of the images.</p>
<p>The answer to this case is personal to everyone, but no one has &#8216;proved&#8217; anything. Merely provided possibilities, and there are so many of these to choose from. To dismiss this case on a feeling is to dismiss the search for the truth. </p>
<p>I have at times thrown my hands up in the air and said that this has got to be CG! But I haven&#8217;t proved that. Has anyone? But it hasn&#8217;t been proved to be real either. It is the unanswered questions that drive us mad, which is why it is so easy to throw the towel in and resign ourselves to our feelings. I am still wide open to this case being real, so please don&#8217;t think I say it is a hoax, full stop, the end.<br />
It is over when it is proven one way or the other, not before.<br />
To say such is to belittle the hard work done by some very dedicated researchers. This I have learned along the way!</p>
<p>Final note. The special thanks to Linda Moulton Howe is for the kind lending of her voice to the amazing piece of music by &#8216;Drone&#8217;. She is not related to the video in the sense of her involvement in any way. I have never spoken to her myself. But I take this opportunity to thank her again for sounding so cool on the track! It wouldn&#8217;t be so good without her on there, and it gives the music a backbone that makes sense of the images.</p>
<p>Anyway, I hope this message clears a few things up. I refuse to be the debunkers champion, or any such nonsense. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I honestly hope everyone makes up their own mind, as opposed to being swayed by the flat conclusions of others.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s it really. Maybe you could post this letter a little more prominently? As I don&#8217;t really like being tagged with the hoaxer brush. I want to make it VERY CLEAR, that the original evidence has nothing to do with me.</p>
<p>Thanks and the kindest of regards, </p>
<p>Kris : )</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What's your take on this, Greg &#38; Nick? 

Did these guys plan it all before hand? 

Is Kris Avery "Isaac"?

PS: I've been waiting to see if Earthfiles.com or unknowncountry.com put some comment regarding this video (might be appropiate, since these DRONE guys end up thanking Linda Moulton Howe!), but so far (October 2) there's nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s your take on this, Greg &amp; Nick? </p>
<p>Did these guys plan it all before hand? </p>
<p>Is Kris Avery &#8220;Isaac&#8221;?</p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;ve been waiting to see if Earthfiles.com or unknowncountry.com put some comment regarding this video (might be appropiate, since these DRONE guys end up thanking Linda Moulton Howe!), but so far (October 2) there&#8217;s nothing.</p>
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