Comments on: 20 Most Important Dates In Ufology (Pt.2)

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By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:19:54 +0000

Adam,

Again, these are OUR favorite and important dates, not the ones most people associate with the UFO subject. The fact that we’re having this discussion will spread this. That’s one of the purposes of this blog, blogging in general, and the “cursed net” as Moseley calls it.

Perhaps I’ll do MY favorite 20 dates and start a whole new discussion.

By: Adam Gorightly

Adam Gorightly — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:06:09 +0000

When talking about 1967, I think the whole Mothman craze should be noted as a sudden twist in the whole UFO scene, as well.

By: Adam Gorightly

Adam Gorightly — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 07:04:49 +0000

I think another important event in 1989 was a radio interview by John Judge on KPFK in L.A. entitled “Unidentified Fascist Observatories” linking the whole UFO scene emerging during that period (ala Bill Cooper, Bob Lazar, John Lear, The Bill Moore revelations) as part of a government psy ops operation dating back to the rocket programs that started in the 1940’s–basically as a coverup and programming device that has continued in the form of mk-ultra operations, current day.

Another “interesting” player in this whole scene was Martin Cannon and his samizdat masterpiece “The Controllers” which I put a certain amount of stock in, Cannon’s flakiness not-withstanding. So all of this is another important aspect of that whole scene that emerged in 1989 when I used to listen to Billy Goodman’s grovvy program into the wee hours.

Good times…

By: Kenn Thomas

Kenn Thomas — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 16:39:09 +0000

As contrasted with the attempt to make Lee Harvey Oswald out to be a lone nut in part to cover up his connectiion to the U2 plane, developed at Area 51.

Yeah, Ike supposedly lost a tooth cap in some chicken and made a late-night visit to a Palm Springs dentist. Evidence for this does not appear in Ike’s existing, extensive medical records. The only witness was the dentist’s widow, whose recollections were suspiciously vague.

I did an article entitled “Wilhelm Reich: Eisenhower’s Secret Ally Against The Aliens” with all the particulars on this for Phenomena Magazine that appears in my new book, Parapolitics.

Happy New Year, guys!

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By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:54:05 +0000

Incidentally, the 1988 stories about Area 51 coincided (or were actually preceded) with concurrent letters to Paul Bennewitz telling him what had been going on out there, and stories about two alien races fighting for control of the planet. The letters were written by an NSA (or CIA, or DIA) operative overseeing counterintelligence on the Stealth Fighter program at Lockheed. It seems that someone or some group was priming the pump for the Area 51 mania that was to follow.

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 09:48:09 +0000

I forgot about Nixon!

Don’t get Kenn started, or you see what happens. I actually enjoy it.

When you say “not contradicted by the official record” you mean that the official record makes no mention of the Reich meeting, right? I know no one has found anything on Eisenhower’s mysterious absence from a lunch party in Palm Springs, although he was supposed to have been at a dentist taking care of some sort of emergency, but that this does not account for all of his time off the record that day.

By: Kenn Thomas

Kenn Thomas — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 01:27:53 +0000

footnote on McNamara:

He’s the one who pushed for the General Dynamics bid for the TFX fighter over the Boeing bid that the Department of Defense wanted. That switch led to JFK’s assassination according to Jim Garrison, who said Fred Crisman shot from the knoll under the employ of Boeing. (And the Clay Shaw business from Oliver Stone movie fame was just a toe-hold on the broader conspiracy.)

General Dynamics’ design appealed to the hyper-efficient McNamara because of the multiplicity of its uses. It eventually became the F-111 and was sold to Australia, opening a funding corridor that led to the development of Pine Gap.

I realize that’s probably more than you wanted to know, but I rarely get a chance to blog with someone with enough background to understand what I’m talking about!

By: Kenn Thomas

Kenn Thomas — Sun, 31 Dec 2006 00:44:12 +0000

…in February 1954, five months prior to the C-T memo! In 1955 Ike also had a meeting with Reich according to Reich biographer Jerome Greenfield, and shortly thereafter Reich traveled to Roswell. (Neither the 2/55 alien meeting nor the Ike-Reich meeting are contradicted by the official record.)

and…and…AND Richard Nixon showed Jackie Gleason the alien bodies in Palm Springs in 1973!

Poor Ford–had to compete with Saddam and James Brown for swan song TV time.

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sat, 30 Dec 2006 21:36:52 +0000

…and McNamara said that there was nothing unknown about the subject. I wonder if Ford is still lying in state out there in Palm Springs. My girlfriend and I are going to be there tomorrow.

More associations–Palm Springs is supposedly where Eisenhower was vacationing when he was taken to see some frozen aliens.