Why I Hate The Aliens
In a previous post titled Vomit-Bag Required - The Dolphins Are Back, I expressed an opinion that if aliens were indeed visiting our world - and have been for an untold number of decades, or even centuries - they have not done even a single thing to help us in all that time. Nothing.
Well, it was that specific post which resulted in a number of phone calls and personal emails from the “Dolphin brigade” as I like to call them, all ranting and raving about my “negative” approach to the subject. Granted, the views expressed were not one-hundred-per-cent identical; but the theme was broadly the same: “How dare you say that the aliens haven’t helped us. They are our friends.”
Huh? No, they are not. Not at all. “They” could not care less about us. Well, that’s just my view and I’m entitled to hold it just like anyone else is entitled to hold their views. However, I’m still getting vitriolic emails from various people (who so badly want to be pals with cuddly ET) asking me to “prove” what I say is correct. Well, proof in the ufological field is the one thing that is unanimously lacking for all of us, including you: Mr. and Mrs. Friend-of-the-Dolphin. But I can use a bit of common-sense.
And so there can be no mistaking my position on this issue, consider the following, which is an expansion on my previous post and intended as my final word on all this “The aliens love us” nonsense. Now, this is not intended as a debate as to whether or not ET really exists. it is intended for those that believe any visiting aliens are going to save us from this bad old world and tuck us into our beds safely at night. Well, get a life: it’s not going to happen.
Let’s focus on the so-called modern era of ufology: that which began in 1947, the hallowed year of our lord, Kenneth Arnold. Stan Friedman has pointed out on numerous occasions that it was during this post-World War Two period that there seemed to be a wealth of interest shown on the part of the UFO intelligences in our atomic research, our missile sites, our Army and Air Force installations, and the then-current status of the military world.
Fair enough. Maybe the aliens were concerned by the fact that human beings spend much of their time killing other human beings, and decided that before we unleash atomic mushroom clouds all across the globe, it might be an idea to land, say hi, and put a stop to our warlike ways. Some might argue that this was the theme of many of the so-called Contactee accounts of the 1950s. Deception was also a key factor of many such accounts, too, however. Whatever is at the heart of the UFO mystery, it is not to be trusted. And roaming around military bases in the dead of night (as per the Rendlesham Forest case of December 1980) and testing our defenses is hardly the approach - as far as I can tell - that friendly visitors to our world should take.
And what about Global-Warming? Does anyone seriously doubt that our planet’s weather is changing? Only a complete idiot would deny that something disturbing is afoot (aren’t quite a lot of Republicans against the idea that Global Warming exists? Hmmm….). And if aliens are amongst us and they are so technologically advanced that they can get from point A to point B with ease, then I’m betting they also know something about the worrying environmental events that are occurring and unfolding before us. But do “they” help us? Well, of course they don’t!
Then there’s the rain-forests. The sheer scale of disaster that rumbles on while most people are concerned only by what they consider to be important (huge artery-clogging meals, Reality TV, finding ways to avoid exercise, and remaining firmly pinned to the couch with the TV-remote-control as their only friend) is reaching critical proportions. But yet again, our little bald-headed, black-eyed friends do not a thing to rectify the situation. And so the deforestation continues.
And while we are on the subject of artery-clogging meals: take a look at current figures for diabetes in the United States: 20.8 million people affected. That’s more than 7 per cent of the population. Very soon, that will be 1 in 10 of the population. ONE IN TEN. Haven’t the aliens got a solution to this? Can’t they somehow do something to fix America’s declining health and its obsession with ingesting massive amounts of food? Well, maybe they can help. But the important thing to note is this: they’re not helping.
Then there are those pesky alien abductions. If the stories are true, our cosmic visitors are abducting people in the middle of the night against their collective wills; they are doing God knows what to them in terms of intrusive, violating experimentation; and they are attempting (not very successfully, I grant you) to wipe their memories of the experiences. Now, some people see all of this in a positive light: they love their little, cold-hearted captors. This also smacks of Stockholm Syndrome, a psychological condition in which the kidnapped person shows loyalty to the kidnapper - indeed, Stockholm has also been exhibited in cases of rape, child abuse, and battered-wife-syndrome. If the aliens are so worried about us, and love us so much, why would they allow the emergence of such syndromes in the abductee arena? The answer is simple: because they don’t care.
And what about the question: When will the oil run out? Well, that’s a controversial issue. But I don’t see ET trying to resolve it for us any time soon.
And things are just as bleak on the over-population front: we are a species that is breeding in ever-increasing numbers on a world that will eventually be unable to sustain us all. Do the aliens offer us a new home, where perhaps the next-generation, or the one after that, could begin life afresh and take some of the strain off poor old Mother Earth? By now, you know the answer to that question: No, they don’t!
Nope, the UFO intelligences are not friendly types here to help. And, please, don’t tell me that by not helping us that this is an indication of some sort of “non-interference”/”free will” scenario on their part. No: if aliens exist and if they are using us in some way, they will continue to do so until we all expire from Global-Warming, diabetes, a combination of wars, over-population, starvation and who knows what else. And when that day comes, the aliens will go on their way to another star system to hassle some other poor bunch of souls who will also probably be well on the way to self-destruction. And we will be nothing but a distant memory in ETs greater scheme.
And that’s why I hate aliens.
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Jan 09 2007 
January 9th, 2007 at 1:33 pm
Nick that’s a really emotional response, seemingly generated more by the accommodating attitude of those who want to believe in the ‘goodness’ of ‘aliens’ than by any demonstrated negative activity.
Certainly that grab-bag of the worlds ills you describe has not been remedied by ‘them’. But that in itself should not be enough to engender blanket hatred. If we are interacting with a number of ET races a differentiated response to each would tend to be indicated.
Having said that, those who foolishly believe that all ET races are altruistic & wholesome need to familiarise themselves with the experiences of Paul Schroeder, the works of David M Jacobs et. al.
Snappy Snapperatz
January 9th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Snappy:
I do take on board what you say; however, the hatred angle was born out of the fact that someone or something is doing something on our world in a covert fashion, and in a way that doesn’t seem to be benefitting us. That’s my major issue with the UFO intelligence - it takes and takes but appears never to give back.
January 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pm
Nick,
Good Punk post!
I generally agree with you, except in the case of Whitley Strieber. He did say that the quality of the experience depended on the mindset of the person. And this is why we need to keep in mind that close contact with whatever it is out there (outside our minds) seems to be akin to the mantra for users of psychedelic drugs and other altered states of mind: set and setting. Our “set” is the state of mind of most of the human race (or more importantly, its leaders.) The “setting” is the mess that we’ve gotten ourselves into–most people cannot imagine a positive outcome for all these problems without a lot of struggle and pain, and almost no one wants that. Even a little inconvenience is more than most who live settled lives want to bear, and these for better or worse, are the ones that obstensibly choose our leaders.
If you’re looking for any sort of outright, open contact or help, I think that this other intelligence (or intelligences) stays away, or appears to because it is stranger and more complicated than we can imagine as yet. It is not here to help us, and probably doesn’t particularly care what happens. The images of environmental destruction and approaching apocalypse probably has more to do with the concerns of the experiencer than the wishes of any aliens to help us.
You probably use the pejorative term of “hate” to make a point, since neither of us is sure of literal aliens from another point in distant space traveling all the way here just to bug and bugger us. It may also be the result of a reaction to annoying new agers who are just as retarded as people like “skeptic” Joe Nickell.
What you rail against (and I wholeheartedly agree) is the mindset of believers who think that the alien presence would solve all of our problems, deus-ex-machina-like, if we would only acknowledge their presence and follow their instructions. I’m afraid that’s the reasoning of a scared, helpless child. It looks like we’re on our own here. Sorry.
January 9th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Nick,
Both you and Greg make the same statement, presumably with equal intent. The idea that “They” don’t care about us one way or the other. I think that hits the nail on the head, regardless of who or what “They” are, even if “They” are many different things.
But suppose we limit “Them” to being the traditional aliens for a moment; organic, probably carbon-based, nothing-spooky life forms from another planet. If ET were truly hostile to us in the sense that they take an active dislike to the human species, ET would simply sweep us away and have done with it. The idea that there would be some sort of war of the worlds as in Independence Day is just silly. It would be a no-contest event.
Look at how quickly we humans have progressed in just the last 100 years. A hundred years ago most people were using horses for transportation, and the Wright brothers had made their first attempt at flight a scant 3 years earlier.
Come down the timeline to the present and we have cars of all kinds, microprocessors so tiny they can’t be seen with the naked eye, probes leaving our own solar system, we’re ripping the guts out of viruses and filling the empty shells with exotic metals and DNA coding of our own choosing, viewing atoms microscopes and the traces of galaxies 10 billion light years distant in telescopes, “and a partridge in a pear tree”. To say the least, we’ve come a long way in 100 years.
It would be a coincidence of such statistical improbability as to make winning the lottery look downright ordinary if ET was within 100 years of our own technological development. It would almost certainly be the case that the difference between species would be on the order of thousands, tens of thousands, perhaps even millions of years. But suppose we give ourselves the benefit of the doubt and say ET is only 100 years ahead of us in technological terms.
For comparison purposes, let’s look at our military and technological abilities of today and pit them against the military and technological capabilities of our ancestors of 100 years ago. We go to war with them. They prepare to throw everything in terms of man and machine they have against us. They cock their fancy, bolt action rifles, load up with grenades and gas, set sail their iron navies, dig their foxholes and get ready for the Mother of All Battles. We launch a couple of ICBMs, go grab a beer (yes, it can be the British beer you’re so fond of!) and the war is over. We don’t even have to leave the comfort of our easy chairs.
The prospect of our current civilization against ET a century ahead of us in technology would suggest a similarly quick conclusion, and not one favorable towards our side. What good would nuclear, chemical, biological or even “death ray” weapons do against an enemy that could simply bend the fabric of space around itself then sit blissfully in its little cocoon outside of space/time while our weapons slid harmlessly past? Could we even launch our weapons? As you noted, our military bases have been observed and fiddled with. Our nuclear missiles have been switched off, our military pursuit aircraft rendered powerless in mid flight. This suggests the ability to turn our most sophisticated devices off as easily as flipping a switch to kill the lights.
So if ET was genuinely hostile we wouldn’t be around anymore. It would be Bambi vs. Godzilla.
At the same time, if ET was beneficent, and took an active interest in preserving us and saving us from ourselves, that same advanced technology of his (or hers) should be more than up to the task. And if ET wanted to save us an yet remain unobserved it doesn’t appear much of a stretch to imagine it is within the scope of his capabilities.
Yet, as you point out, where’s the evidence that the ET cavalry has ever come thundering to our rescue? Lord knows there’ve been plenty of opportunities throughout recorded history. But no sign it has ever happened, and there is much available evidence we are currently flirting with the destruction of our own planetary environment. Some argue we are near the tipping point. Some argue we’ve already gone past it.
So ET doesn’t appear to have it in for us, and he doesn’t seem inclined to save us from ourselves or from anything else. Whatever the purpose of his interaction with humans is, we don’t count in the equation. ET just doesn’t give a flying rip about us one way or the other.
January 10th, 2007 at 7:59 am
Assuming aliens exist at all, I don’t know that I could hate them or even fault them for not getting involved with the petty affairs of human beings. After all, it may be our own arrogance that leads us to believe the aliens are here to see us. Even if they are, it may be arrogant of us to presume that we are worth interfering with.
What if, as many have posited, human beings are just a stage and not the culmination of evolution? What if it is our machines that have attracted the attention of the aliens? We will probably reach a point in not too many years when our computers will evolve beyond the sum of their parts. It may be these machines for which the aliens have waited with patience and detachment.
S
January 10th, 2007 at 8:14 am
Skeptical:
My hatred and loathing isn’t so much based on the fact that they don’t help us but (as I pointed out in the article), if abduction accounts are accurate and the reports of deep interest in our military are accurate, then “they” are here doing something but not giving anything back.
That’s the problem I have: the phenomenon (whether it’s really alien or something beyond our comprehension) takes from us and manipulates us but seemingly doesn’t do the same in return.
Indeed, it could also be something to do with machines or some aspect of the earth that attracts them. But I come back to the abduction issue: clearly some interaction (whether physical or out-of-body or some altered state) is taking place and I don’t see how it is of benefit to us when I see no evidence of any benefit.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:16 am
Greg:
I agree with what you say about the nature of the experience and the experiencer, and yes: it’s the “oooh, the aliens are here to save us from bad people and they are going to put the world on a nice, safe track” attitude that I hate.
January 10th, 2007 at 8:19 am
Raven
You are right on target: the phenomenon isn’t set on our destruction, nor is it here to save us. It uses us, i believe, as part of its games, and when we’re gone, so will it be.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:09 am
Okay, I must comment because this blog just makes me so happy. I totally agree, aliens drive me nuts. If I met one, I’d probably try to kill it. Because they are not helping at all, and I think they’re causing so many problems; they’re a total nuisance. If they are here and watching us, why? Why are they watching us, and not coming out and forward, why aren’t they helping us if they’re so smart? It seems they just enjoy seeing this whole world fall apart. Some people say that they’re here to help us, if so, why haven’t they started already!? We’re dying here, and all they do is kill our cows!
Which leads me to another question, why are they killing our livestock? If it’s to take tests, why aren’t they just asking us for the information they’re looking for? Wouldn’t it be a lot easier than killing a cow, cutting it up, and doing whatever they’re doing with it? Sorry, it drives me crazy. Aliens bug me, they should just get lost.
January 10th, 2007 at 9:48 am
Annie:
I’m glad I’m not the only one out there who has those opinions! Cattle mutes? There’s several schools of thought:
(a) it’s aliens;
(b) it’s connected with biowarfare; or
(c) it’s a monitoring program to determine how diseases might spread in the animal-to-human food chain.
A couple of books I would recommend to learn more on this subject: “Project Beta” by my co-blogger, Greg Bishop. And “Brain Trust” by Colm Kelleher.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:04 am
Nick,
You spoke of the abduction phenomenon. I confess I’ve got skepticism regarding that issue. Intelligences great enough to disable our technology, pass through solid walls, act with impunity under our noses… If abductions are to be taken at face value, why blank out our memories in such a way that we can go back in and retrieve them with something like hypnosis? This presumes hypnotically accessed memories are true memories and not false ideas planted of suggested by the hypnotist. Having watched several recorded sessions by hypnotists supposedly trained in the UFO field and in performing regressions and memory retrievals without unduely influencing the subject, my personal belief is that the hypnosis angle is probably a red herring.
In any case, the inablity to completely erase our memories just seems inconsistent with the level of technology ET appears to have. Something just doesn’t click.
Have you given much thought to the idea that maybe abductions being performed by humans, perhaps military or the intel world? Maybe erasing of memories is so flawed because it involves nothing more sophisticated than our own drugs and suggestion techniques?
January 10th, 2007 at 11:17 am
Raven:
Yep, I have indeed considered that some abductions may be the work of the military/intel world. In fact, there’s a whole chapter on this (and official surveillance of abductees) in my latest book, “On the Trail of the Saucer Spies.”
Also: you’re right in the sense that the technology involved doesn’t seem to equate with what we should expect from highly advanced ETs.
This is something that Mac Tonnies has discussed as an aspect of his cryptoterrestrial theory - namely that maybe these things are actually from here (in the form of a hidden, and perhaps a declining small group) and not too far in advance of us either.
A third theory I lean towards is maybe the abductions are actually a “mask” of some type to camouflage something else - possibly an out of body type communion with an other-worldly intelligence that immerses the participant in a Matrix-style “false reality.” If this is the case, it may mean that no-one has ever actually been abducted by ET onto a spacecraft, but that some presently unexplained intelligence either wants it to look that way; or they manifest in a way that is culturally acceptable to us.
January 10th, 2007 at 11:55 am
Thank you Nick, I’ll have to check out those books sometime ^^
January 10th, 2007 at 1:08 pm
I’ve also wondered if the “memories” of abduction were perhaps planted. Maybe someone or something does really abduct these people. For all I know they steal them away in the night, reveal the mysteries of eternity to them, then implant false, scary memories in a hidden part of the mind so that if people get curious and decide to investigate their “missing memories” they will be frightened off by what they uncover.
Ever read any of Joseph Chilton Pearce’s works? I’m particularly fond of “The Crack in the Cosmic Egg”, in which he argues that ALL of our perceptions, our views, our paradigms, are essentially the result of what we’ve been indoctrinated to expect from our society, reinforced by a sort of self-hypnosis that keeps us locked into that view.
I was rereading some of “The Crack/Egg” book last night and thinking about that in terms of some of the views you’ve shared regarding Tulpas. An peculiar question crossed my mind: If they appear to us in brief flashes and enigmatic encounters in our world, are we appearing to them in brief flashes and enigmatic encounters in theirs? Or, as the Hindus would ask, “Are we the dream of the gods, or are the gods something we dream?”
January 10th, 2007 at 1:28 pm
Raven
I will have a long blog-post tomorrow that I think you will find interesting…
January 10th, 2007 at 4:36 pm
Another reason to hate the aliens is that they are all definitely illegal and none of them pay a cent in taxes.
January 10th, 2007 at 6:47 pm
These little grey suckers are also all undocumented illegals and don’t pay a dime in taxes, either!
January 10th, 2007 at 7:56 pm
[...] January 11th, 2007 Nick… Nick, Nick, Nick. Nicky! After all we’ve done for you! I’ve been shaking my melon ever since I read your post. Have you forgotten so soon? Velcro? Microwave ovens? The entire Rendlesham industry? And here’s you saying you hate us because you reckon we’ve never done a thing to help you. Nick… That hurts, bubeleh. [...]
January 11th, 2007 at 6:47 am
Nick - I totally agree with your distance to certain people (who so badly want to be pals with cuddly ET) - however to hate them would be a little bit early - or are you in contact with them and know theyre ‘evil agenda’?
Also - I want to enlighten you on my perspective to the ‘official no show & act’ issue in dealing with mankind.
Pretty simple - mankind is different than the rest - in many regards - but the most important is God. It seems you dont believe in such a being - right? But it would explain the behavior to us - we - mankind - have no PROOF of God - only through BELIEVE we have something to hang on to - but nether the less its the most important reason - because until a certain time passes - there wont be any PROOF - and until than all your actions count - for the BEGINNING of mankind - this now is the time of GRACE - where you are allowed to act as you feel fit - but for this youll get your receipt - good or bad — anyhow - if you had this proof of God - you would act different - and for the alien beings who surely could be in regular contact with us - would sooner or later tell us the story of this universe - and that would be proof - which is not allowed to happen - to us - for now.
I hope this perspective might even for an atheist somehow understandable - and you could be able to follow my logic.
January 11th, 2007 at 7:56 am
Bill
You’re right: the least they can do is pay into the system!
January 11th, 2007 at 7:58 am
Loving the alien dolphin:
Finally a message from a real-life alien - and by email too! Of course: microwaves, velcro! They really are little cuddlies here to help. How wrong I was! LOL
January 11th, 2007 at 8:11 am
Davan:
Re belief (whether it’s in a god, aliens or something else): my personal perspective is that I try not to believe wholeheartedly in something until I see firm evidence of it.
That doesn’t mean I don’t think something is going on. It just means that I don’t know what the truth is.
Do I believe in an afterlife? Most of the time I do, based on things that have happened or that I have been told, or occasionally 1 or 2 things I’ve personally experienced. Sometimes I don’t believe - I’ll admit that my views waiver.
However, for me, the important thing is that without proof no-one knows for sure what lays before us on the “other side” etc.
There are numerous religions in the world, many of which believe vastly different things. Yes, they all broadly agree that there is a creator and an afterlife, but the details differ.
So it’s for those reasons that I don’t outright believe. All of those religions can’t be literally correct; yet without proof no-one can deny they are correct either. So for me, whatever an afterlife is, I’ll have to wait to have that proof. Because belief (when there are so many differing religions) isn’t enough for me.
Same with alien abductions: in the way that my comments above apply to religion, they also apply to abductions. Quite clearly something is going on, and many people believe (there’s that word again) that it is aliens taking people.
Now, it may well be. But it could equally be that it’s government mind-control experiments; it could be time-travellers using the ET motif as camouflage; it could be anything.
So, I know that something is happening with abductions, but I can’t have a firm belief system in one theory until I see the proof.
That applies to all aspects of my research - something is clearly afoot, but belief without firm evidence that one theory is correct over another is not enough for me. I need to have that proof to reject the other theories.
However, I would stress that I have no problem with people holding specific belief systems on any subject.
It’s when belief (especially religious belief) causes conflict rather than just rational debate that I get angry because we all get sucked in and suffer.
I grew up in England and in the UK in the 70s, 80s and 90s, the IRA bombed us relentlessly in terror attacks, with countless people killed. Much of that was due to religious conflict.
I’ve seen what belief systems can do - and sometimes it can be good, and sometimes not.
January 11th, 2007 at 8:40 am
i enjoy this blog quite a bit, as you do seem to echo my own sentiments quite a bit.
i’ve always drawn the jane goodall analogy when discussing this topic with friends.
do the apes care when a camera crew invades their territory? do they care when scientists grab them, or their children, to weigh them, test them, tag them, and release them? what do the apes think of these intruders? do they view them as good or evil?
those involved in the primate studies may have an altruistic streak, even a type of respect or love for their subjects (or their work), but at the end of the day, does the ape’s feelings, fears, or preferences figure into the equation?
if aliens are extra-terrestrials (i’m still on the fence on that one), then it’s logical to assume that they came to see us, to study us, much as we study the primates on this world. the majority of them neither love nor hate us. they simply operate from a world view which is incompatible with ours, and they think nothing of their tactics or actions, or how we might feel about them.
perhaps out of all these alien visitors, there are a few jane goodall’s, a few who empathize with us, who choose to interact with us (as in streiber’s case, perhaps) on a more personal level. even then, it would not be a relationship of equals, no matter how much they might care for the ape. at best, we would be pets or oddities.
if you were studying apes, and one of the subjects picked up a rock and started bashing in the head’s of the others, would you stop him? if one of the subjects set about to destroy the food supply in the area, would you stop him? if the jungle caught on fire, would you airlift out all the chimps, or let them try to figure their own way out, even if it meant many would die?
you’d make a note of the events that transpired, the ape’s actions and reactions, and you’d continue to collect data, because you’re there to study, not to interfere.
perhaps, when only a few were left, the rest having died off from wars, starvation, or whatever…perhaps you would act to save those remaining few, to preserve them against extinction.
there are somewhere around 6 billion of us humans here. we have a long way to go before the ‘kindness’ of the aliens is likely to materialize.
January 11th, 2007 at 9:24 am
Chimpuat
I loved your comment, it just seems to make so much sense. It seems to explain a lot of the problems we encounter with aliens, about them not showing themselves, and uncaring, etc… Brilliant
January 11th, 2007 at 9:27 am
Chimpuat
Those are very good points and indeed we can draw parallels with the way we treat the animal kingdom - and that’s what worries me, given how many animal species we send to extinction (directly or indirectly) every year!
Maybe it is a case of wanting (or waiting) to reduce the size of the “herd” to a manageable level before any meaningful interaction takes place.
January 12th, 2007 at 7:26 pm
Dear Nick: I’ve Been Telling People for Years THE UFO ALIEN’S DON’T SEEM TO LIKE US, AND DON’T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH US! Sorry About That NEW AGERS!
January 18th, 2007 at 9:49 pm
Nick,
So I very intentionally waited to post to this one until it was a bit under the radar. You see, I like it. But here is the thing; what do you do if you hate the “aliens” “UFOnauts” for deep personal reasons?
What if you harbor an aversion to such creatures due to your own experiences? What if your life has been converted into some kind of nightmare by bizzare expiriences and you can not find help?
The church doesn’t know what to do with you, paranormal investigators are too friendly to your percieved enemies (”ooh the space brothers!” Do they have any idea how annoying that is to someone who has no love for these monsters? Oh yeah, I DONT WANT TO BE HYPNOTICALLY REGRESSED EITHER!),
So you fear for your family and even though you keep becoming more fascinated (and you read everything you can find) you keep slipping deeper into paranoia. Who can help you? Can a psychiatrist alleviate your suffering? You can’t tell anyone you work for. (I am religious in a sense and even the pastoral workers can not seem to help me.) But then in my world view, the thought is that things like this happened for a reason, so there is some lesson or task I am supposed to learn/accomplish here. Am I supposed to help others like me? If so how do I find them?
You know I had walked away from this at one point, and now it has found me again. This is not something I asked for. What should I do?
Jess
January 19th, 2007 at 6:52 am
Jess
I’m truthfully not sure what you should do. A lot of abductees incorporate this into their lives because they come to love their little gray captors.
Now, whatever these “things” are, I’m still not sure. But the “love” angle that people have, I believe, comes from a form of Stockholm syndrome as per the article.
Maybe, these things can artificially induce the Stockholm angle. But to me, this suggests deception and manipulation on their part.
You seem to recognize that this isn’t a positive thing for the person involved - which is good that you do recognize it.
I haven’t been in your position, so it’s a tough call. I do, however, know of people who have practiced deep meditation and tried to mentally put up a block to these things - which has apparently worked.
January 19th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
Nick,
Your honesty is refreshing. I think it is good that people like you are investigating this and working different angles of it. Maybe since as John Keel point out, the phenomenon is “reflective” I should just ignore psychic events for a while. Even stop reading about them until it goes away. Worthy of thought. Thanks.
Jess
January 20th, 2007 at 9:28 am
Jess
I’m not sure you need to ignore it as such. I think the phenomenon is depenedent on feeding on the emotions of the person (to a degree at least), and it’s how we deal with it that affects how it manipulates us.
December 19th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
I’m sorry I missed the fun here.
January 20th, 2008 at 12:04 am
I am split here. On one hand, I do agree that the aliens are most definitely not trying to ‘help’ us in the literal, short term sense. And by short term I mean with basic, material issues within our lifetimes or even within a few centuries.
On the other hand, I see the higher wisdom in the reality that if you help or meddle too much in a civilization that is not ready for something it may go awry over time or become dependent and unable to function on its own. Helping us directly and overtly could be compared to us throwing money at a suffering African country only to have a clan leader seize it for his own benefit. Our civilization is not at the stage where it can use higher technologies for the benefit of all. Such would almost definitely fall into the hands of a few.
So logically, the only visible alternative would be to depose such a regime and forcibly take over. But many people like that regime (foolishly) and would fight against it. Even if our weapons would do nothing against them, I’m pretty sure they’d see no value in being hated and occupying us.
In the long run, ‘helping’ a poor country does little in their favor. Maybe they’re able to see on the extremely large scale and notice that even though such will bring immediate shortcomings that it will be for our benefit as long as we don’t completely kill ourselves in the process (and then it is actually necessary to intervene to some level). This could be the natural path of civilizations that they may have seen dozens of times. Perhaps they have made mistakes before (even in our history, perhaps) and noticed that immature civilizations tend to get dependent rather than more independent when presented with help.
Nonetheless, I do think it’s plausible that they could be ‘helping’ us in some more passive way. One of these ways would be attempting to promote wisdom, which I am unaware of how could be accomplished. This would ultimately not interfere with our civilization but would help us a bit in the long run. Also, if people were not ready to accept their existence, a lot would plunge into chaos unless again, they occupied us. The problem is that the government and those in control are partially fostering this ignorance and keeping things in the dark, so it’s not entirely the population that isn’t ready. Perhaps some day the population will be smart enough to realize this and act for its own benefit, and maybe in that time they’ll reveal themselves in the open.
On a literal scale, I completely agree with you. But I think that when thinks on a larger scale, the mechanics of ‘free will’ and ‘non-interference’ actually do make a lot of sense. We’re not going to learn to solve our own problems by having them directly solved by another superior race, regardless of whether it ’saves us the suffering’ in the short term. There are probably many other problems out there that we will face as a newly starfaring race in the next 500 years that will dwarf these and we will continue to be dependent on these aliens if we are now.