I should clarify that by “associative reasoning” Gurdjieff meant “Kundabuffer” which is a central term in his unreadable opus: “All and Everything: Tales of Beelzebub” or whatever. Gurdjieff states that there was a cosmic accident caused by comets (water-covered amino acids) which created the moon and also Kundabuffer aka kundalini. Kundalini is just the sublimated sex energy manifesting as visions and vanity — delusions of grandeur and even real power of transformation (ufos).

In contrast to Kundabuffer is again “objective reasoning” which has no cause and requires no effort. The best logical presentation of objective reasoning is “Be that which you are.” or similar title — it’s by David Godman on Sri Ramana Maharshi.

When, as Gurdjieff taught, we focus on the I-thought there is no object in this philosophy — as Dan Zahavi describes, the I-thought is the only thought for humans which is “self-transcending.” At first we hold onto the I-thought, repeating I-I-I over and over to see the logical source of all our thoughts. Eventually we logically infer that we retain consciousness even in deep sleep and consciousness is therefore objective — not based on either associative reasoning (sex energy) nor formal reasoning (civilization).

The process whereby the I-thought becomes objective is when it creates will-power which is actually the kidney energy and created through complementary opposite harmonics. So this is why full-lotus is so effective in sublimated and transforming the kundabuffer — the source of delusion in humans — so that kundalini can return to it’s source as objective consciousness.

Gurdjieff takes that psychological and physiological process and relates it to cosmology. He states that as civilization “progresses” humans are increasingly controlled by the Kundabuffer — and therefore the humans are increasingly machines. Freemasonry calls this the “separation of heaven (mind) and earth (body)” through mass ritual sacrifice, as detailed in my blogbook, “when the mothership lands.”

The negative energy of the kundalini — electrochemical, yin energy, and the positive energy of the electromagnetic energy — the source of our thoughts - is resolved by the neutral energy as objective consciousness or what the Buddhists called “essential nature” as the root of the heart. It’s therefore experienced and discovered through a great feeling of love and bliss which is then transmitted through the I-thought now transformed by the yang electromagnetic-light energy. This is why modern studies on OBEs, and say Susan Blackmore’s much tauted book on the subject, are all bunk — a true full-lotus yoga master is a rare find in the West. In contrast qigong master Chunyi Lin just had a chapter published in a Mayo Clinic medical textbook on paranormal healing energy through OBEs — so to speak — coauthored by Mayo Clinic oncologist Dr. Nina Mishek. I think qigong master Chunyi Lin is also doing a new N.I.H. study on pain relief through chi energy transmission.

http://springforestqigong.com for further details

If you standby and watch a murder take place, a murder you could have stopped and/or prevented at anytime, then you are just as guilty of murder as the person who actually committed the murder. Likewise, to allow irrational and illogical ideas go by unchallenged makes one guilty of the same immoral exploitation that those irrational and illogical ideas are used for. So go ahead and try to polarize the issue; try to profile and stereotype your opposition. Try and intimidate them into giving up and not speaking out while you proceed unimpeded…or maybe not because someone, somewhere might just call your bluff.