Comments on: The Roswell Debris http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/ UFO News, Views, and More Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:39:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: sasdave http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-2026 sasdave Wed, 02 May 2007 23:39:15 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-2026 Thanks again Nick. As I have been curious to find out if it was possible that the full eye contacts from the autopsy were used to develop the soft contacts of today or some of the polarized sunglasses. Have a great day. Thanks again Nick. As I have been curious to find out if it was possible that the full eye contacts from the autopsy were used to develop the soft contacts of today or some of the polarized sunglasses. Have a great day.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1997 Nick Redfern Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:42:28 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1997 Dave Re contact lenses, here's a good resource: http://www.contactlenses.co.uk/education/public/history.htm Yep, there are definitely a lot of opposing opinions re Ray Santilli's "restoration" confession as per my reply as above. Dave

Re contact lenses, here’s a good resource:

http://www.contactlenses.co.uk/education/public/history.htm

Yep, there are definitely a lot of opposing opinions re Ray Santilli’s “restoration” confession as per my reply as above.

]]> By: sasdave http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1996 sasdave Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:25:52 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1996 Thanks for the reply, Nick. I was one of those that got the full copy of the autopsy footage. No where on the video did it show the pics mentioned above. It also appears all over the net that the footage is faked; because, of this or that. Yet, no one ever mentions the fact that when the full eye contacts are removed the eyes have a death blink (muscle spasim). By the way does anyone out there know when the first contact lens were made available to the public. Thanks for the reply, Nick. I was one of those that got the full copy of the autopsy footage. No where on the video did it show the pics mentioned above. It also appears all over the net that the footage is faked; because, of this or that. Yet, no one ever mentions the fact that when the full eye contacts are removed the eyes have a death blink (muscle spasim). By the way does anyone out there know when the first contact lens were made available to the public.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1977 Nick Redfern Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:20:21 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1977 Dave The pictures are from the Alien Autopsy film, which most researchers have discarded due to Ray Santilli's "restoration" claim - namely that the film he says he got from an elderly cameraman had degraded to where it was unwatchable and unusable so he and a special effects colleague, ahem, "restored" it with a created dummy etc. So, even if elements of the story were true, no-one - even the strongest supporter - could ever say this or that is real, because Santilli himself admits that a lot of the film is just special effects. I must stress that - privately at least - a number of UK ufologists who believe the AA film to be bogus, still don't believe Santilli's story of how he said it was made. So the bottom line is that with admitted special effects at work, the film is effectively rendered useless from a credibility level. But there are some definite intriguing aspects still outstanding. For example, some time ago I obtaine copies of military papers of a guy named Jack Detmar Barrett whose handwriting is a close match to the writing on the supposed AA film cannisters. In 2 cases. it's identical. I shared these papers with Neil Morris and Ed Gerhman, who are still looking into it. I also know of another researcher who - literally right now - is initiating inquiries to determine where Ray Santilli obtaiined the 1940s vintage clock that appears in the film, where he obtained the various "protection suits" that the people are wearing, and where he obtained the autopsy table etc. If that can all be shown, then that should lay matters to rest from everyone's perspective. Dave

The pictures are from the Alien Autopsy film, which most researchers have discarded due to Ray Santilli’s “restoration” claim - namely that the film he says he got from an elderly cameraman had degraded to where it was unwatchable and unusable so he and a special effects colleague, ahem, “restored” it with a created dummy etc.

So, even if elements of the story were true, no-one - even the strongest supporter - could ever say this or that is real, because Santilli himself admits that a lot of the film is just special effects.

I must stress that - privately at least - a number of UK ufologists who believe the AA film to be bogus, still don’t believe Santilli’s story of how he said it was made.

So the bottom line is that with admitted special effects at work, the film is effectively rendered useless from a credibility level.

But there are some definite intriguing aspects still outstanding.

For example, some time ago I obtaine copies of military papers of a guy named Jack Detmar Barrett whose handwriting is a close match to the writing on the supposed AA film cannisters. In 2 cases. it’s identical.

I shared these papers with Neil Morris and Ed Gerhman, who are still looking into it.

I also know of another researcher who - literally right now - is initiating inquiries to determine where Ray Santilli obtaiined the 1940s vintage clock that appears in the film, where he obtained the various “protection suits” that the people are wearing, and where he obtained the autopsy table etc.

If that can all be shown, then that should lay matters to rest from everyone’s perspective.

]]> By: sasdave http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1968 sasdave Fri, 27 Apr 2007 17:58:00 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1968 So guys still curious if the pics of pcs of metal on that geocities site looked more real then the tin foil pic? Any input as I still think I came across these pics some time before the autopsy footage was released. I realize they are just pics and one would need to have these items in hand for a reality check. Dave So guys still curious if the pics of pcs of metal on that geocities site looked more real then the tin foil pic? Any input as I still think I came across these pics some time before the autopsy footage was released. I realize they are just pics and one would need to have these items in hand for a reality check. Dave

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1889 Nick Redfern Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:27:59 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1889 Dave Thanks for clarification. Nick Dave

Thanks for clarification.

Nick

]]> By: sasdave http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1886 sasdave Thu, 19 Apr 2007 19:16:25 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1886 Nick Just after I emailed you I came across copies of the pics I mentioned above. Go to ... (www.geocities.com/djbeirne/2rospics.html) it appears my above dating is mistaken. I guess there is no need to send copies by post. Nick
Just after I emailed you I came across copies of the pics I mentioned above. Go to … (www.geocities.com/djbeirne/2rospics.html)
it appears my above dating is mistaken.
I guess there is no need to send copies by post.

]]> By: sasdave http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1881 sasdave Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:45:12 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1881 Nick Sure I will try to find them, for some reason I can't remember where I got them. May remember when I find the pics. Can you email me with your address as I am waiting for copies of those 3 huge sphere vessels photographed by a friend; to which, I wanted to send to you. If you look at the Santilli video check the eyes when the full eye contacts are taken off. That split second view and the 6 digit hands was what sold me as Ive read many times that they only had 3 digit hands. Nick
Sure I will try to find them, for some reason I can’t remember where I got them. May remember when I find the pics. Can you email me with your address as I am waiting for copies of those 3 huge sphere vessels photographed by a friend; to which, I wanted to send to you.
If you look at the Santilli video check the eyes when the full eye contacts are taken off. That split second view and the 6 digit hands was what sold me as Ive read many times that they only had 3 digit hands.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1880 Nick Redfern Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:56:23 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1880 Bill: The six finger angle stems from the notorious Santilli film - which he now says is a "restoration"' by him and special-effects guys. It may be; and indeed I have no idea what the film shows. But, there are some genuinely odd issues that relate to Ray's confession and that still keep parts of the story wide open. Bill:

The six finger angle stems from the notorious Santilli film - which he now says is a “restoration”‘ by him and special-effects guys.

It may be; and indeed I have no idea what the film shows. But, there are some genuinely odd issues that relate to Ray’s confession and that still keep parts of the story wide open.

]]> By: Bill Hancock http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1879 Bill Hancock Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:53:23 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/the-roswell-debris/#comment-1879 More interesting info. I've never heard of such photos. Don't know that I've ever heard of the little aliens having six-digit fingers and can't recall anything ever being said about the Marcels taking photos at their house either. This is all new to me. Might they be from another crash retrieval? More interesting info. I’ve never heard of such photos. Don’t know that I’ve ever heard of the little aliens having six-digit fingers and can’t recall anything ever being said about the Marcels taking photos at their house either. This is all new to me. Might they be from another crash retrieval?

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