Mar 01 2007
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The Kingman UFO
Any mention of crashed UFOs inevitably conjures up images of all things of a Roswell nature. However, there are other cases of significance that don’t get the airing and discussion that they rightly deserve. One of those is the alleged crash of a UFO at Kingman, Arizona in 1953.
The details of the story were told to researcher Ray Fowler in the early 1970s by a source provided with the pseudonym of “Fritz Werner.” According to Werner: “…during a special assignment with the U.S. Air Force, on May 21, 1953, I assisted in the investigation of a crashed unknown object in the vicinity of Kingman, Arizona.”
He continued: “The object was constructed of an unfamiliar metal which resembled brushed aluminum…it was oval and about 30 feet in diameter…A tent pitched near the object sheltered the dead remains of the only occupant of the craft. It was about 4 feet tall, dark brown complexion and had 2 eyes, 2 nostrils, and a small round mouth. It was clothed in a silvery, metallic suit and wore a skullcap of the same type material.”
So, did a UFO crash at Kingman all those years ago? Well, it is a story that did the rounds to a fairly in-depth extent in mid-to-late 1970s and early-1980s ufology, and since then has pretty much languished in a state of limbo - aside from the occasional fragment that would from time to time surface. But that situation is about to change.
In November 2005, while speaking at the annual UFO Crash Retrieval Conference in Las Vegas, Nevada, I met with a man named Roy Forbes, who had a deep interest in Kingman and who was then working on a DVD documentary on the story. Roy duly interviewed me for the show (along with numerous others, including researchers Richard Dolan; Linda Howe; John Greenwald; Jim Marrs; Dennis Balthaser; Stan Friedman; and Scott Ramsey), with regard to my views on the case.
I was sent a review copy of the DVD a few days ago; and can state that it is a significant contribution to the crashed UFO controversy. Titled Fallen Angels: An Unclassified Report on UFO Crash Retrievals in the Southwest, it delves deeply into the Kingman story, provides new revelations, and also reveals significant new data on the alleged crash of a UFO at Aztec, New Mexico in 1948 - a case that many researchers see as a hoax; but that, as the film shows, is not dead - in terms of something having occurred, at least.
I would urge anyone and everyone with an interest in crashed UFOs in general and the Kingman affair in particular to get hold of a copy of Fallen Angels. To do so, contact Roy Forbes at majic@frontiernet.net
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March 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 am
Here’s the deal: a civilization supposedly capable of possessing the technical and navigational skills needed for instellar travel makes it safely across the abyss of sapce to earth and then starts driving like drunk teenagers?! Come on. Where is your rational brain? One crashed UFO is an interesting possibility. Two crashed UFOs are a serious anomaly. However, according to reports, there have been “dozens of crashed UFOs” here and there. And where are the recovered transmissions, drive systems, etc.? Uh, secret government agents must have every one of them. Yeap, it really makes sense: they navigate across hundreds of light years, then suddenly become inept driver shortly after arriving on earth.
The scariest thing is that you people probably vote — and have kids. Have your brains completely turned to gunk? People who fall for this crap have the same ‘go-along’ mentality as the WWII Germans and the people who let the Spanish Inquisition happen. Jeez. Facts be damned. No wonder America is in such crappy shape these days.
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 am
Nick,
Accepting for the moment that there are in fact genuine cases of crashed hardware with bodies (or better yet, live ones) of what appear to be non-human life forms, how does this fit in with your suggestion that these beings are created by us as some kind of mental/emotional constructs and then given a physical reality? Do such crash retrievals fit into a different category of beings unrelated to the Tulpa-like critters, or are they part and parcel of the same phenomena?
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 am
Mahone
Nope, no kids (and my wife and I have no desire to have any either), and nope I don’t vote (as a Brit living in the US I’m not allowed to).
Crashed saucers: as I said the crashed saucer controversy is an interesting one, but who is saying anything about anyone falling for anything?
I merely said that anyone with an interest in Crash-retrievals will find this new DVD of great interest - which it is.
You may not know this but in 2005 I had a book published that was titled Body Snatchers in the Desert, which suggested that ALL UFO crash stories (and specifically Roswell) were a cover for accidents involving classified military prototype aircraft experiments.
So, I’m certainly not just accepting crash tales uncritically. Instead, I’m suggesting that interested parties examine all the evidence, and all new evidence with an unbiased mind. Nothing more, nothing less.
I certainly don’t know what the truth is, but I do know that the only way we will find that truth is by studying all the data - old and new.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 am
Raven:
That’s a good question,and I think that if (and of course that’s a big if) there have been crash-retrievals, then we may be looking at different phenomena.
However, right now I am chasing a story for a new book on links between 1947 crashed UFO stories and rites and rituals undertaken by Jack Parsons, that it has been suggested (in official quarters, no less) may have resulted in a doorway having been opened to something not alien but perhaps more paranormal and that came down at Roswell.
Now, I’m not saying I accept this (see my comments to Mahone above re my views), but I do know that this has been suggested by people in the Defense Department.
So, I think that there could indeed be other (maybe more than one) explantaions for Crash cases. The problem is how we answer that question without firm evidence.
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:51 am
Mahone,
Your post pre-supposes you know exactly how reliable (and how far ahead of us) ET technology is. I believe I recently read that there are some 48 suspected crash cases. That might be considered a ridiculously excessive number if only a few hundred vehicles have ever come to visit Earth.
But what if visits to Earth are somewhat common? What if there are thousands or tens of thousands or more each year? What is some or even many of these purported craft are not from light years away, but from relatively near points in space, or perhaps even based in remote and inaccessible places right on Earth itself?
There are thousands of UFO reports made each year and, depending on whose statistics you go by, between 10% and 20% of these reports cannot be explained in terms of hoaxes, failure to identify unusual but known aircraft, meteorological phenomena, etc. It is also that amounts to hundreds if not thousands of potentially legitmate sightings every year. And it is also estimated that only a very small percentage of all yearly sightings get reported at all, meaning those hundreds or thousands of genuinely unidentifiable sightings could probably be multiplied by 10 or 20 times. Now you’re dealing with tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of truly unidentifiable cases every year.
If that is true then 48 known downed craft over the last 50 to 100 years or so is a pitifully small number. It is miracle that the number isn’t a hundred times greater than that.
The bottom line is, a state of the art Boeing jet is an incredibly complex and sophisticated piece of hardware. Its design incorporates multiple redundent backup systems and fail safe mechanisms. It is flown by pilots with thousands and thousands of hours of flight experience not to mention all the time spent in flight simulators. In spite of all this those aircraft sometimes crash. What evidence or reason do you have for thinking non-human life forms must necessarily be infallible, or dramatically less fallible than we humans? Or, what reason do you have for supposing that 48 crashes over the last 50 to 100 years or so is necessarily excessive? Do you have an exact count on just how many craft there are looking in on us?
March 2nd, 2007 at 9:53 am
Nick,
This “doorway” you mentioned; is it related to the alleged “Philadelphia Experiment”, or is it an unrelated different?
March 2nd, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Raven
Intresting that you mentioned the Philadelphia Experiance as It came to my mind as I started to read Nick’s statement. Mahone may forget that all technology has its’ draw backs. We can believe what we want and it doesn’t mean it is true or false. I may be wrong; but, if the outside of a craft has a set electric or frequency charge and it is confronted by a differant charge, frequency or polarity many things can happen. Including meltdown or total shutdown. The problem with the P.Experiment is it could of caused the crash of one or many space crafts. This doorway you talk of could relate to time travel and that may explain the differant crashes after the experiment. Until a vessel is built to match the basil human frequency on the inside of the vessel and it has the ability for the outside to be a changable frequency no advancements to long term human space travel will be nil. That could also explain the ability of these strange movements of many sitings seen and some possible crashes. One question for the wise… Is the harpe project similar to the P.Experiment technology wise.
March 2nd, 2007 at 10:02 pm
Raven/Sasdave:
No it isn’t connected with the Philadelphia Experiment. In fact, it’s weirder.
Bear in mind that this is a theory on the part of certain US Intel people and I’m not sure yet to what extent it’s provable or not. But it basically focuses on Jack parsons and other disciples of Crowley using archaic rites to open doorways that may have allowed some form of non human intelligence access to our world.
In the view of those in the official world that subscribe to this theory, they see the ETs (if thats what they are) as occult entities.
March 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 am
Nick
This doorway theory you write about could have something to do with a photo I seen in a book. My memory is not too clear; but, the book was written by a older gent in Duncan B.C. Canada. I think he had a ufo newsletter out for a number of years also. The photo shows these creatures coming out of what appears to be a light or dimentional rip or zipper. The picture is near a river with rocks and bolders, the creature coming out appears small; but, the author states that the rock beside the creature(s) is 3 or 4ft making the the creatures at least 7 or more ft. I’m not in communication with the fellow who has this book; but, for sure Vancouver Island is a witchcraft or occult place of practice. Nick you have this ability to wake up the lost alien memories, keep up the good work.