Mar 30 2007
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Saucer Test Flight
Wanna see a UFO? Check out this video. Don’t expect to see any little grey or green men with big black eyes come shuffling out of this one, though; and no, it wasn’t filmed at Area 51 or the fabled Hangar 18. No back-engineering here. This saucer belongs to “us” and not “them…”
Of course, what you’ll see here is a relatively rudimentary device; but it does serve to show that as our science progresses, differentiating between a real UFO (whatever that may be) and some sort of military-originated test device may become more and more difficult.
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March 30th, 2007 at 10:00 am
Most interesting.I notice, too, a little rocking motion with these things in flight that is also something seen in old UFO footage.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:02 am
This is fascinating stuff! I don’t know if it was even mentioned in Nick Cook’s excellent book, The Hunt For Zero Point. More evidence that we must know what’s in development to differentiate between IFOs and the “real thing.” See my post for more on this subject.
March 30th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Bill (and I know Greg will appreciate this too):
You hit on an interesting point; in fact it looks like that classic (and highly controversial!) film footage that good old George Adamski took years ago - wobbling around the sky in a precarious and ludicrous fashion!
March 31st, 2007 at 1:20 am
Sorry guys, who needs an Army UFO when you can buy one on e- bay?
http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AREA51-UFO&cat=TOO
These things have been on the market for about ten years. I have been tempted to buy one but I keep imagining myself hiding in the bushes outside of a MUFON meeting flying the damn thing over the true believers and getting myself arrested. I don’t know why that thought gives me so much excitment. . .
Jess
March 31st, 2007 at 8:52 am
Jess:
Yeah you could have a lot of fun at UFO gigs, flying that over people’s heads!!
March 31st, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Help! I’m trapped in ‘Bizarro-World’ as the people I admired here seem mesmerized by cheap childish toys and obvious chiconery. (The second video looks computer-generated.)
None of the two videos involve any novel take on the science of flight and are in fact simple, and cheap, toy-model helicopters. Did I mention how cheap they are?
Wow, make a toy helicopter look vaguely similiar to a ‘flying saucer’ and sit back and hear the ‘Ooohs’ and ‘Ahhhhs’ roll in.
Although, if I was 9 years old again, I’m sure I’de be begging Ma & Pa for one.
-Jason
April 1st, 2007 at 8:56 am
Jason:
Believe me, it takes very little to successfully entertain my mind! And cheap novelty saucers wobbling around the sky will certainly work.
April 1st, 2007 at 9:32 am
This is very simple stuff. They still need a long ways to go.
April 1st, 2007 at 11:24 am
Jason, we’re not “mesmerized,” we’re reporting and discussing things. You might as well say that conventional UAVs are inconsequential to the study of UFOs because they are essentially giant model airplanes. The video Nick and I reference shows something that, with enough development, can be easily mistaken for a UFO at night, and probably has.
April 1st, 2007 at 11:39 am
Greg:
Good point.
Jason:
My joking above aside, the fact is that human technology is undoubtedly advanced enough for some UFOs to be considered as man-made vehicles. I don’t of course mean this rocky, wobbly thing in the film.
Check out Greg’s Project Beta that delves into this area.
Also, check out next month’s UFO Magazine, where my regular “View from a Brit” article focuses on a story involving what was almost certainly a man-made UFO that nearly collided with a British airliner, and which the authorities were happy (and very relieved too) to pass off as a “UFO.”
April 1st, 2007 at 12:33 pm
Don’t be distressed,Jason. Just because they’re interesting doesn’t make them wonderful. Ray Harryhausen saucers are still the best…even better than real ones!!!
April 2nd, 2007 at 12:14 am
“My joking above aside, the fact is that human technology is undoubtedly advanced enough for some UFOs to be considered as man-made vehicles.”
The only case involving a human seen operating a UFO. (excluding contactee claims)
The Oklahoma UFO Landing:
http://boyinthemachine.blogspot.com/2007/02/oklahoma-ufo-landing.html
April 3rd, 2007 at 2:52 am
Nick, I don’t know if you’re aware of the recent reports of a beastie in Lake Windermere - I’ve long had my suspicions about there being something genuinely odd in there - but some of the sightings may be explained by something over at Cryptomundo: StreetPeddler.com run an advert for a remote controlled ‘Loch Ness Monster’. There’s even a cute little video showing it going through its motions.
So, I tell you what, let’s me and you go round to BoyintheMachine/Jason’s place when he least expects it, and you can have endless childish fun buzzing his house with your cheap and wobbly remote controlled flying saucer/’toy model helicopter’, and I’ll use my remote-controlled ‘Loch Ness Monster’ to terrify the livin’ crap out of the ducks in his pond!
p.s.
Given his slightly overwrought reaction, is Jason’s surname by any chance Vorhees?
April 3rd, 2007 at 5:07 am
Alan
Re the Windermere sightings: yeah, I know about them. As you may know, I run the US Office of Jon Downes Center for Fortean Zoology and the group has already done a couple of on-site studies. The working theory is that some of these are giant eels.
April 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 pm
Jason:
You’ve made an error:
Note my words in the above comment: “human technology.” Not human beings. I made no comments about flesh-and-blood humans being seen operating Saucers/UFOs.
Your reply, however, shows that this is how you wrongly interpreted my reply.
I still maintain that “human technology” as per my comment is involved - with RPVs, UAVs etc. But, of course, a UAV/RPV doesn’t require humans to be aboard them though - only that someone has the ability to control the device remotely.
As for the Contactee cases that you and not I bring up: surely you realize that they have more to do with just the 1950s incarnations of an unknown presence that has been with us for aeons, and that has variously manifested throughout the centuries to the human race as demons, angels, gods, fairies, goblins, Grays, Blondes, etc, etc.
All such imagery is deceitful to hide the real identity; and the whole goal is manipulation and exploitation. It has nothing (in my view at least) to do with literal human-looking UFO pilots.