Comments on: MJ12, UFOs and the FBI http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/ UFO News, Views, and More Sun, 06 Jul 2008 00:07:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-2012 Nick Redfern Tue, 01 May 2007 20:41:31 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-2012 Pdacrandy: Here's a source with loads of links: http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/meninblack.htm Pdacrandy:

Here’s a source with loads of links:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/meninblack.htm

]]> By: pdacrandy http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-2009 pdacrandy Tue, 01 May 2007 19:36:42 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-2009 Anyone have a link to interviews with people who say they've encountered men in black or aliens dressed like men in black? Anyone have a link to interviews with people who say they’ve encountered men in black or aliens dressed like men in black?

]]> By: Smylex http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1967 Smylex Fri, 27 Apr 2007 16:18:21 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1967 I think its the only fun they get to have, is watching us fumble for the truth. I think its the only fun they get to have, is watching us fumble for the truth.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1964 Nick Redfern Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:52:13 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1964 Drew Very interesting, and I'll take a look at that link. Drew
Very interesting, and I’ll take a look at that link.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1963 Nick Redfern Fri, 27 Apr 2007 14:51:30 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1963 Greg LOL, and there is another Roswell book due in June (Schhmitt-Carey's book) and 2 more in the works! Greg

LOL, and there is another Roswell book due in June (Schhmitt-Carey’s book) and 2 more in the works!

]]> By: drew hempel http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1958 drew hempel Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:18:29 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1958 Nick, since you've done animal activism, I'm sure you can appreciate that a small activist group in Madison WI in the 1990s generated 900 pages of documents, most of which were blacked out by FOIA requests with the addition of it being "too much work" for the FBI to continue revealing their surveillance. I was in that group, the UW-Greens, and related progressive organizations. The latest "Homeland Security" food proposal is to require all cows to be microchipped! http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/pmwiki.php/FoodSovereignty/ActionAlertToOpposeWisconsinPremisesRegistration We can see where cointelpro, Tommy Thompson (former WI governor and now Verichip board member), and black project UFO-cow mutilation becomes a very majestic topic indeed. Nick, since you’ve done animal activism, I’m sure you can appreciate that a small activist group in Madison WI in the 1990s generated 900 pages of documents, most of which were blacked out by FOIA requests with the addition of it being “too much work” for the FBI to continue revealing their surveillance.

I was in that group, the UW-Greens, and related progressive organizations. The latest “Homeland Security” food proposal is to require all cows to be microchipped!

http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/pmwiki.php/FoodSovereignty/ActionAlertToOpposeWisconsinPremisesRegistration

We can see where cointelpro, Tommy Thompson (former WI governor and now Verichip board member), and black project UFO-cow mutilation becomes a very majestic topic indeed.

]]> By: Greg Taylor http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1957 Greg Taylor Fri, 27 Apr 2007 01:06:52 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1957 Nick, I would have guessed that we already had 196 books on the Roswell incident... ;) Kind regards, Greg Nick,

I would have guessed that we already had 196 books on the Roswell incident…
;)

Kind regards,
Greg

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1956 Nick Redfern Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:49:29 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1956 What??!! I don't care about MJ12, but no scantily clad Martian babes??!! What??!! I don’t care about MJ12, but no scantily clad Martian babes??!!

]]> By: paulkimball http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1955 paulkimball Thu, 26 Apr 2007 22:46:58 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1955 AB: If Stan ever finds proof for all his claims, I'll be the first to applaud. :-) With MJ-12, however, it ain't gonna happen. Anyone who thinks it will is living in a dream world, where little fairies, sprites and pixies hang out with the ghost of Donald Menzel and dance with scantily clad Martian babes. Paul AB:

If Stan ever finds proof for all his claims, I’ll be the first to applaud. :-)

With MJ-12, however, it ain’t gonna happen. Anyone who thinks it will is living in a dream world, where little fairies, sprites and pixies hang out with the ghost of Donald Menzel and dance with scantily clad Martian babes.

Paul

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1954 Nick Redfern Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:52:57 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/ufology/mj12-ufos-and-the-fbi/#comment-1954 Not anonymous: You could be right! You're definitely correct in that the number of MJ12 documents that have surfaced in the last few years has definitely fallen. First there was the Moore-Shandera material; and then the huge amount of material (not all of which is in the public domain) from Tim Cooper. Whether the work of hoaxers or government insiders, I think that a lot of people in ufology just don't care anymore, and so the flow of documents (whatever the source) just drops. I don't mean that people don't care in the sense that they don't want answers. Rather, I mean that they don't care about seeing more and more documents that never actually prove anything beyond just more always-unresolved debate. Not anonymous:

You could be right! You’re definitely correct in that the number of MJ12 documents that have surfaced in the last few years has definitely fallen.

First there was the Moore-Shandera material; and then the huge amount of material (not all of which is in the public domain) from Tim Cooper.

Whether the work of hoaxers or government insiders, I think that a lot of people in ufology just don’t care anymore, and so the flow of documents (whatever the source) just drops.

I don’t mean that people don’t care in the sense that they don’t want answers. Rather, I mean that they don’t care about seeing more and more documents that never actually prove anything beyond just more always-unresolved debate.

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