MJ12, UFOs and the FBI
Amazingly, next month will mark the 20th anniversary of the first public airing (in Timothy Good’s book Above Top Secret) of the so-called MJ12 documents that captured the imagination and attention of the entire ufological field for years.
Indeed,for some - such as Stan Friedman - that attention is as strong today as it ever was.
There have been arguments, counter-arguments and more with respect to the MJ12 papers, and the issue of whether they are - or are not - prime evidence for the existence of a super-secret group established during the Truman administration, and that had access to alien bodies and materials recovered at Roswell, New Mexico in July 1947.
The true believers continue to truly believe. And the arch-skeptics continue to…er… “arch-scoff.”
There is one aspect of the story, however, that doesn’t always get the attention that it deserves, and that’s the FBI’s involvement in the saga of MJ12.
However, for those that want to find out more about this aspect of the story, you can now - thanks to that marvel that has come to be known as the Internet - read my article on this particular angle of what is a much larger controversy, MJ12: The FBI Connection, online by simply clicking here.
Let’s raise a glass to the fact that we will still be debating MJ12 in another 20 years; and yes: the believers will still believe; and the skeptics will still scoff. Yet another aspect of the UFO mystery will remain utterly unresolved to the satisfaction of whatever remains of the UFO research community of 2027.
And let’s look forward to many more questions, comments, observations, glowing support and outright condemnation of an MJ12 kind…but no firm answers. Because that’s what ufology is all about! It defies explanation and always remains tantalizingly elusive. Such was the name of the game when Keyhoe, Stringfield and their ilk were at the top of their game. Such is the game now. And such will be the game when, in the year 2293, the 196th book on the Roswell incident is published.
Given that I’ll be 62 in 2027 (what a depressing thought…and I bet I will have lost my luxuriant and impressive head of hair by then, too), I sincerely hope that I am not writing a post at this very site that says “Amazingly, next month will mark the 40th anniversary of the first public airing of…blah, blah, blah.”
However, I have a horrible, nagging suspicion that I will be…
To the guys in the Intelligence world: tell us the truth! Twenty years of debating those accursed papers is enough torture for anyone!
It makes complete sense, after all, because then we’ll leave you alone; you won’t have to keep answering endless Freedom of Information Act requests from die-hard UFO researchers; and we can all move on to the Kennedy assassination, or the death of Princess Di, or something else that will never be resolved to everyone’s satisfaction.
Let’s face it: it can’t be much fun for those that are sitting on top of the secret of Roswell (whatever the hell that may be!). Sixty years ago they were quite possibly akin to being the closest thing you could find to the X-Files‘ sinister and powerful Cigarette-Smoking Man. But today they’re relegated to merely sitting in the audience at UFO conference after UFO conference, quietly and clandestinely listening to lecture after lecture about those damned documents.
No wonder the Men in Black never smile. Would you if you were in their shoes?
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Apr 26 2007 
April 26th, 2007 at 10:11 am
Nick:
The fact that anyone is still talking about MJ-12, myself included, just proves that the UFO field is in about as bad a shape as it can be in.
Paul
April 26th, 2007 at 11:34 am
Nick, the only reason Paul (Kimball)’s so jaundiced is his conviction the whole thing’s a fraud.
And he might be right - but it’s just as possible he’s wrong.
But even if MJ12 did - or does - exist, it wouldn’t prove anything vis-a-vis aliens, UFOs, etc.
It’s perfectly possible it was - or is -simply a more high-powered US version of the endless quangos set up in the UK whose only real purpose always ends up being justifying their own existence so that the members of ‘the board/executive’ can carry on receiving endless huge payments for doing absolutely b*gger all: viz the Diana and Lottery type fund administrators, people who get paid huge sums to attend meetings where they merely decide to hold another meeting to decide whether to hold another meeting, etc., etc.
But as for you, twenty years in the future, I’ve drawn on all my vast mystical powers to behold a vision of you and Greg Bishop attending something called a ‘Con’Con’Con’Con’Con-’CON with, squashed between the pair of you, the world famous boss of RADA, the Yeti porn actor, Vance Sausage-Squash, (star of a blockbuster movie I can’t quite make out, BIG*O**, [BIGFOOT, presumably], fielding the question that now that the existence of all the Cryptids, Aliens, etc., have finally been proven a fact, and the lot of ‘em have been accepted and integrated as normal, everyday members of Society, is the newly ‘discovered’ Bullgumball creature a true new cryptid, or merely, as some people claim, the deranged ‘Phantom of the Opera’ style person Paul Kimball became after his uncle Stan finally found undisputable proof for all his claims?
April 26th, 2007 at 11:42 am
Alan
Your mind is truly a, er, “unique” one!
LOL
April 26th, 2007 at 12:43 pm
I’ve been wondering for a while now why we haven’t been seeing a lot more MJ-12 documents being seeded into the ufo community. Now that all the hard legwork has been done in the form of establishing fonts, terminology, dates, places, players, etc. it would seem a grand platform for hoaxers to begin creating all manner of visually appropriate documents.
All you need is a roll of Tri-X and some mailing addresses. As a malicious hoaxer you could have a ton of fun implicating Liberace as a deep cover operative, John Delorean as someone who got too close to the truth and the recovered alien technology behind the invention of Viagra. Maybe today’s hoaxers are just unimaginative and lazy.
April 26th, 2007 at 2:52 pm
Not anonymous:
You could be right! You’re definitely correct in that the number of MJ12 documents that have surfaced in the last few years has definitely fallen.
First there was the Moore-Shandera material; and then the huge amount of material (not all of which is in the public domain) from Tim Cooper.
Whether the work of hoaxers or government insiders, I think that a lot of people in ufology just don’t care anymore, and so the flow of documents (whatever the source) just drops.
I don’t mean that people don’t care in the sense that they don’t want answers. Rather, I mean that they don’t care about seeing more and more documents that never actually prove anything beyond just more always-unresolved debate.
April 26th, 2007 at 3:46 pm
AB:
If Stan ever finds proof for all his claims, I’ll be the first to applaud.
With MJ-12, however, it ain’t gonna happen. Anyone who thinks it will is living in a dream world, where little fairies, sprites and pixies hang out with the ghost of Donald Menzel and dance with scantily clad Martian babes.
Paul
April 26th, 2007 at 3:49 pm
What??!! I don’t care about MJ12, but no scantily clad Martian babes??!!
April 26th, 2007 at 6:06 pm
Nick,
I would have guessed that we already had 196 books on the Roswell incident…
;)
Kind regards,
Greg
April 26th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Nick, since you’ve done animal activism, I’m sure you can appreciate that a small activist group in Madison WI in the 1990s generated 900 pages of documents, most of which were blacked out by FOIA requests with the addition of it being “too much work” for the FBI to continue revealing their surveillance.
I was in that group, the UW-Greens, and related progressive organizations. The latest “Homeland Security” food proposal is to require all cows to be microchipped!
http://www.familyfarmdefenders.org/pmwiki.php/FoodSovereignty/ActionAlertToOpposeWisconsinPremisesRegistration
We can see where cointelpro, Tommy Thompson (former WI governor and now Verichip board member), and black project UFO-cow mutilation becomes a very majestic topic indeed.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:51 am
Greg
LOL, and there is another Roswell book due in June (Schhmitt-Carey’s book) and 2 more in the works!
April 27th, 2007 at 7:52 am
Drew
Very interesting, and I’ll take a look at that link.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:18 am
I think its the only fun they get to have, is watching us fumble for the truth.
May 1st, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Anyone have a link to interviews with people who say they’ve encountered men in black or aliens dressed like men in black?
May 1st, 2007 at 1:41 pm
Pdacrandy:
Here’s a source with loads of links:
http://www.ufoevidence.org/topics/meninblack.htm