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Mar 25 2008

Kenn, Kirby & Conspiracies

This in from Kenn Thomas:

“When Steamshovel Press editor Kenn Thomas speaks on ‘JFK to UFO’ at the Retro UFO gig next month, his prefatory remarks will concern ‘Jack Kirby, Conspiracy Theorist.’

“Thomas looks at the famous comic book artist’s interest in parapolitics as well as the possibilities that Kirby had back channel sources within the world of covert intelligence. Richard Hoagland speculated that the secret space program gave Kirby information leading to the artist’s 1958 comic book story, ‘The Face On Mars’ — an anomaly that did not become part of the conspiracy lexicon until the Viking probe’s Cydonia photographs of 1976.

“Thomas examines the history of this as well as Kirby’s prescient forecasts of American involvement in World War II and Vietnam; the use of conspiracy themes in his 1970s comics; and his documented involvement with a CIA rescue operation during the 1980 Iranian crisis.

“How does central intelligence shape our view of conspiracies in the popular culture? Find out at RetroCon, at the Integratron in Landers, CA , April 26 and 27.”

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7 Comments to “Kenn, Kirby & Conspiracies”

  1. drew hempel Says:

    Glad to hear Ken is still cutting-edge. I was thinking about him last night, wondering what was up.

  2. Adam Gorightly Says:

    Kenn Thomas is a boil on the ass of ufology!

  3. red pill junkie Says:

    Well, lest’s just hope nobody gave him some inside-info about “Galactus”, and that it only came out of his & Stan’s imagination ;-)

  4. craig york Says:

    Whoot! High five, Red! ( Though the prescence of the Skrulls among us
    would explain so much…)

    A touch more seriously, I do think there
    is a great deal of work to be done in
    tracing the crossover of
    ideas from popular media to Ufology and
    vice versa.

  5. Kenn Thomas Says:

    Galactus and all else sprung full brown from the mind of Jack Kirby. Stan Lee is some two-bit gag writer who just screwed up the dialogue in those comics.

    The biggest conspiracy in Kirby’s life was pulled off by phonies like Lee and other corporate types, some of them quite literaly mobsters, who bulit a megabuck entertainment bureaucracy using licesning proerties Kirby created, while paying him only a page rate.

    I do hope people make it out to the Integratron. My main talk is on the maury Isalnd UFO case and how it realtes to the JFK assassination.

  6. red pill junkie Says:

    I’m sorry I will be unable to attend, Mr Thomas. But I’m sure it will be a fascinating talk; best of luck :-)

  7. Emperor Says:

    Kenn Thomas said:

    “The biggest conspiracy in Kirby’s life was pulled off by phonies like Lee and other corporate types”

    If so what is your talk about? A secret space program feeding him the designs of faces on Mars would be a pretty big conspiracy ;)

    His involvement in the Iranian embassy business was tangential - they used sketches he made for a failed movie pitch and it was that film which was later being used as the cover story by the CIA (he never had any direct involvement with the scheme).

    Could it just be his vast output (25,000 pages) and a dash of futurology, following current trends, could account for it?

    Or was Hoagland inspired by Kirby and other sci-fi tales of Mars? If so we should count ourselves as lucky he didn’t thrown in some Barsoomians?

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