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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 21:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fae-Struck:

Wow, many thanks indeed. 

This is a very intriguing account. 

The cemetery angle is particularly notable because (literally) right now there are reports circulating of huge dog-wolf like creatures at a large cemetery on the Cannock Chase forest, England - close to where I used to live in the UK, and cited in the original article above.

Weirdly, the Cannock Chase cemetery dog-creatures seem to have the ability to walk on their back legs too, and this has now given rise to dark tales of werewolves on the loose in the little villages of the Cannock Chase.

There are countless reports on record of spectral dogs tied to cemeteries, as well as the dogs vanishing when either (a) they approach people; or (b) people approach them.

The cemetery angle is equally intriguing given that the black dog (centuries ago, at least) was seen as an ill-omen or a forteller of death.

Many thanks again for taking the time to share this.

Nick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fae-Struck:</p>
<p>Wow, many thanks indeed. </p>
<p>This is a very intriguing account. </p>
<p>The cemetery angle is particularly notable because (literally) right now there are reports circulating of huge dog-wolf like creatures at a large cemetery on the Cannock Chase forest, England - close to where I used to live in the UK, and cited in the original article above.</p>
<p>Weirdly, the Cannock Chase cemetery dog-creatures seem to have the ability to walk on their back legs too, and this has now given rise to dark tales of werewolves on the loose in the little villages of the Cannock Chase.</p>
<p>There are countless reports on record of spectral dogs tied to cemeteries, as well as the dogs vanishing when either (a) they approach people; or (b) people approach them.</p>
<p>The cemetery angle is equally intriguing given that the black dog (centuries ago, at least) was seen as an ill-omen or a forteller of death.</p>
<p>Many thanks again for taking the time to share this.</p>
<p>Nick</p>
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		<title>By: Fae_struck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fae_struck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 18:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For what it’s worth:

I hold Bachelors in Science in Nursing from a prestigious college and consider myself a curious agnostic in these matters. Never seen something that could really qualify as a UFO, I was involved with a pagan group and was voted least likely to see/hear/feel any damn thing at all, etc. I am always on the lookout for the anomalous yet ready to skeptically evaluate it when it rarely presents. I am not "a true believer" of anything.

Many years ago a friend and I decided to go for an impromptu hike up a long street that had a lovely, very well lit building at the top that she had always wondered about. It was dark and 10 PM or so as we started up the hill on foot. We were nervous and making wise cracks about being murdered by a serial killer once we got up there. As we rounded a corner we began to realize that we were at a cemetery, and at the far end was a very well lit mausoleum type building. We were kind of odd kids and had spent some time in local old cemeteries; randomly cleaning up graves, bringing flowers and generally being no harm to anyone, so the fact that it was a graveyard didn’t freak us out as much as it might have to others. 

Until we both became aware of the very large presence of a black dog seen quite clearly against the lit areas. Yet despite how well it should have been defined, it was seemingly made up of shadows more than flesh and bone. We both saw this thing at the same time, saw it turn towards us and break into a run. Well, that seemed like my que to exit, but my friend for some reason was pissed at being made frightened (she was like that) and stood her ground. Not being willing to leave my best friend to be slaughtered by even a devil dog, I turned back and we both saw the thing just melt away as it came lopping towards us. Nothing happened from that point on, no major disasters, we continued our tour seeing nothing else amiss and returned home. I think about the incident from time to time and can no more explain it today as when it happened. My friend was actually quite phobic of dogs, but I am not. I have never seen it before or since, but may look into it now that I know it’s a “thing”. This happened in Northern California, FYI.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it’s worth:</p>
<p>I hold Bachelors in Science in Nursing from a prestigious college and consider myself a curious agnostic in these matters. Never seen something that could really qualify as a UFO, I was involved with a pagan group and was voted least likely to see/hear/feel any damn thing at all, etc. I am always on the lookout for the anomalous yet ready to skeptically evaluate it when it rarely presents. I am not &#8220;a true believer&#8221; of anything.</p>
<p>Many years ago a friend and I decided to go for an impromptu hike up a long street that had a lovely, very well lit building at the top that she had always wondered about. It was dark and 10 PM or so as we started up the hill on foot. We were nervous and making wise cracks about being murdered by a serial killer once we got up there. As we rounded a corner we began to realize that we were at a cemetery, and at the far end was a very well lit mausoleum type building. We were kind of odd kids and had spent some time in local old cemeteries; randomly cleaning up graves, bringing flowers and generally being no harm to anyone, so the fact that it was a graveyard didn’t freak us out as much as it might have to others. </p>
<p>Until we both became aware of the very large presence of a black dog seen quite clearly against the lit areas. Yet despite how well it should have been defined, it was seemingly made up of shadows more than flesh and bone. We both saw this thing at the same time, saw it turn towards us and break into a run. Well, that seemed like my que to exit, but my friend for some reason was pissed at being made frightened (she was like that) and stood her ground. Not being willing to leave my best friend to be slaughtered by even a devil dog, I turned back and we both saw the thing just melt away as it came lopping towards us. Nothing happened from that point on, no major disasters, we continued our tour seeing nothing else amiss and returned home. I think about the incident from time to time and can no more explain it today as when it happened. My friend was actually quite phobic of dogs, but I am not. I have never seen it before or since, but may look into it now that I know it’s a “thing”. This happened in Northern California, FYI.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/black-dogs-a-connection/#comment-1927</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alan:

No I don't think a lot of this is coincidence at all. There's no doubt at all that ancient man saw dogs as being a spiritual creature; and there are numerous tales linking spectral dogs with the afterlife and impending death.

Kerberos of Greece(Cerberus in Latin); the dogs of Yama (King of the Dead) of Indian mythology; the list goes on, right to the black dogs of Britain.

The wolf angle is an interesting one and a newly published book I would definitely recommend to you is "Howls of Imagination: Wolves of England" by  Paul Williams, which is a great study of how mythology and superstition have molded our views of the wolf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan:</p>
<p>No I don&#8217;t think a lot of this is coincidence at all. There&#8217;s no doubt at all that ancient man saw dogs as being a spiritual creature; and there are numerous tales linking spectral dogs with the afterlife and impending death.</p>
<p>Kerberos of Greece(Cerberus in Latin); the dogs of Yama (King of the Dead) of Indian mythology; the list goes on, right to the black dogs of Britain.</p>
<p>The wolf angle is an interesting one and a newly published book I would definitely recommend to you is &#8220;Howls of Imagination: Wolves of England&#8221; by  Paul Williams, which is a great study of how mythology and superstition have molded our views of the wolf.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg:

Cool comments. Actually, the whole story re Los Alamos etc will be in the public domain very soon now for all to see. Literally just finishing up some final pieces.

I would stress that I have never kept my interest in such issues as a secret; it's just that a lot of people in "nuts and bolts" ufology do not accept this as being related to their field of research, so as a result it rarely comes up in conversation.

But to me, the work of the shamen is far more relevant to finding the actual answers to the puzzle than utilizing something like the Freedom of Information Act ever will be. Or standing outside at night with a pair of binoculars.

Many researchers assume that after 60 years of UFO research, the UFO community has a lot of answers. However, it does not. It has a lot of data and a a lot of testimony; but no firm answers. Not a single one.

I have come to realize that taking a conventional route to try and get these answers fails because the intelligence behind the UFO puzzle is not conventional and it is not nuts and bolts. But it is accesible by more archaic and alternative means.

I will admit, however, that there is a blurry line (and a crossover) between what might be a created Tulpa style thought form and what might be an entity that pre-exists without human interaction to create it.

Whatever this phenomenon really is, it may actually straddle both areas.

Re the PhD's: hmmm, now there's a thought...LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>Cool comments. Actually, the whole story re Los Alamos etc will be in the public domain very soon now for all to see. Literally just finishing up some final pieces.</p>
<p>I would stress that I have never kept my interest in such issues as a secret; it&#8217;s just that a lot of people in &#8220;nuts and bolts&#8221; ufology do not accept this as being related to their field of research, so as a result it rarely comes up in conversation.</p>
<p>But to me, the work of the shamen is far more relevant to finding the actual answers to the puzzle than utilizing something like the Freedom of Information Act ever will be. Or standing outside at night with a pair of binoculars.</p>
<p>Many researchers assume that after 60 years of UFO research, the UFO community has a lot of answers. However, it does not. It has a lot of data and a a lot of testimony; but no firm answers. Not a single one.</p>
<p>I have come to realize that taking a conventional route to try and get these answers fails because the intelligence behind the UFO puzzle is not conventional and it is not nuts and bolts. But it is accesible by more archaic and alternative means.</p>
<p>I will admit, however, that there is a blurry line (and a crossover) between what might be a created Tulpa style thought form and what might be an entity that pre-exists without human interaction to create it.</p>
<p>Whatever this phenomenon really is, it may actually straddle both areas.</p>
<p>Re the PhD&#8217;s: hmmm, now there&#8217;s a thought&#8230;LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 13:06:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jess:

I don't think the cloaked entities are always human inspired and there has been debate as to whether or not the alleged creation of these things by the human mind may not be a creation as such after all; but may be an invocation that opens a doorway instead.

Personally, I believe that there is a cloaked entity that is not made from the human mind; and it is one that has been reported on many occasions (usually in "sleep paralysis" type situations).

However, there is no doubt (I know because I'm one of them) that some people have also tried to create a Tulpa style form along the lines of the pre-exisiting "cloaked entity" phenomenon.

So, in other words, there are at least 2 things going on, I think. Maybe more. And, of course, the question of where the original form of the "thing" came from if not the human mind.

There are other proto-forms that have been tied in with the creation of Tulpas: larged, man-like winged entities; black dogs; hairy manlike creatures, large cat like creatures; and serpents.

Interestingly enough, these are all the staple "creatures" of cryptozoology.

Check out the name Franek Kluski and some of the "animals" that materialized during his workings. Classic cryptozoological driven imagery.

It's slightly off track but it's things like this that lead me to believe that many cryptozoological "things" do not have physical origins in the way we understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jess:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the cloaked entities are always human inspired and there has been debate as to whether or not the alleged creation of these things by the human mind may not be a creation as such after all; but may be an invocation that opens a doorway instead.</p>
<p>Personally, I believe that there is a cloaked entity that is not made from the human mind; and it is one that has been reported on many occasions (usually in &#8220;sleep paralysis&#8221; type situations).</p>
<p>However, there is no doubt (I know because I&#8217;m one of them) that some people have also tried to create a Tulpa style form along the lines of the pre-exisiting &#8220;cloaked entity&#8221; phenomenon.</p>
<p>So, in other words, there are at least 2 things going on, I think. Maybe more. And, of course, the question of where the original form of the &#8220;thing&#8221; came from if not the human mind.</p>
<p>There are other proto-forms that have been tied in with the creation of Tulpas: larged, man-like winged entities; black dogs; hairy manlike creatures, large cat like creatures; and serpents.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, these are all the staple &#8220;creatures&#8221; of cryptozoology.</p>
<p>Check out the name Franek Kluski and some of the &#8220;animals&#8221; that materialized during his workings. Classic cryptozoological driven imagery.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s slightly off track but it&#8217;s things like this that lead me to believe that many cryptozoological &#8220;things&#8221; do not have physical origins in the way we understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: DingoDog99</title>
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		<dc:creator>DingoDog99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

If politics make strange bedfellows than UFOs make the strangest indeed. 

Don't take this the wrong way but I never thought I would agree with a ritual magician on &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; however I find most of your writing (reading saucer spies right now...) and the majority of your opinions at least compelling if I havn't agreed with them completely. 

My questions based on your comments is this. I have had what I call night terrors that fit the description of the cloaked entity. Once it was so awful I actually had a grand mal seizure related to the event. (I am not prone to seizures and they could not induce one in me in the sleep/ EEG lab) Is this always a human inspired attack or do these entities do this on their own sometimes? 

Jess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>If politics make strange bedfellows than UFOs make the strangest indeed. </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t take this the wrong way but I never thought I would agree with a ritual magician on <i>anything</i> however I find most of your writing (reading saucer spies right now&#8230;) and the majority of your opinions at least compelling if I havn&#8217;t agreed with them completely. </p>
<p>My questions based on your comments is this. I have had what I call night terrors that fit the description of the cloaked entity. Once it was so awful I actually had a grand mal seizure related to the event. (I am not prone to seizures and they could not induce one in me in the sleep/ EEG lab) Is this always a human inspired attack or do these entities do this on their own sometimes? </p>
<p>Jess</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 01:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

Responding to various points out of the above interesting discussion:

Jason - you seem to draw a line between 'magic' and technology, when it could be possible that magic is a technology of its own. Magic is intrinsically connected to consciousness (ritual magic is the business of altering states of consciousness), and has been practiced throughout human history, from shamen to Golden Dawn types. While modern (physicalist) science believes consciousness arises out of brain processes, there are certainly a number of well-credentialled scientists who believe that consciousness may be an integral and fundamental building block of the cosmos (Roger Penrose would be among the most notable). Certainly, there is the example of quantum mechanics relying on the observer, which suggests something along these lines. Perhaps magic is the original 'lost technology' (due to the influence of organised religion and physicalist science over the past 500 years)?

You said "Magic isn’t and will never be an alternative ‘theory’ simply because theories are testable." I don't see why you would jump to this illogical conclusion? There are a number of scientific ways to progress - the most obvious to me would be to look for patterns in the manifestation of 'magic' experiences, to establish whether there is a repeating, underlying mechanism. Further, we can test for information transfer - ie. can we find an example of information transfer between 'magic' experiences which does not use the known methods. There is a history of this in the 'book tests' of psychical research with allegedly discarnate beings (I've also seen a suggestion from a scientist on testing the ability to retrieve 'objective' information from the DMT realms which would be a similar experiment). To throw your hands in the air and say "it's magic, it's untestable!" seems to me to be a most unscientific thing to do (not least because you're not thinking rationally, on the basis of an existing bias against a certain result).
 
Beyond my belief that scientific investigation is possible though, I must also state my opinion that science is a tool that can explore only so far. Science was developed for exploring the physical world, and though we can apply it to manifestations of psychic phenomena in the physical world, it may not necessarily provide an answer - it can't cross the threshold, so to speak. I know every physicalist will be perturbed by the above comment, thinking it's a copout, but they need to understand the circular thinking in their own logic (that science describes the physical world extremely well, therefore it is the ultimate tool, therefore reality is defined by science, therefore reality is the physical world). Nevertheless, as I mentioned above, science still does offer us a chance to test the phenomenon in a negative fashion - by removing all aspects of physical explanations - such as through anomalous information transfer, impossible physical motions, etc.

Having said that, you could be completely right. I just think all avenues should be explored - without prejudice (just some common sense).

Nick - lovely to see you come out of the pentacle inscribed cupboard, so to speak. While some may reject investigating 'hoodoo' as unscientific, I for one applaud any researcher willing to get 'down and dirty' to better understand the topic (next, I expect you to gain a PhD in astrophysics and spacecraft construction...don't disappoint me now).

And as for your mention of Los Alamos and magick...goddang, you've got me salivating. What immoral act do I have to perform to get a sneak peek at this research?
;)

Kind regards,
Greg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Responding to various points out of the above interesting discussion:</p>
<p>Jason - you seem to draw a line between &#8216;magic&#8217; and technology, when it could be possible that magic is a technology of its own. Magic is intrinsically connected to consciousness (ritual magic is the business of altering states of consciousness), and has been practiced throughout human history, from shamen to Golden Dawn types. While modern (physicalist) science believes consciousness arises out of brain processes, there are certainly a number of well-credentialled scientists who believe that consciousness may be an integral and fundamental building block of the cosmos (Roger Penrose would be among the most notable). Certainly, there is the example of quantum mechanics relying on the observer, which suggests something along these lines. Perhaps magic is the original &#8216;lost technology&#8217; (due to the influence of organised religion and physicalist science over the past 500 years)?</p>
<p>You said &#8220;Magic isn’t and will never be an alternative ‘theory’ simply because theories are testable.&#8221; I don&#8217;t see why you would jump to this illogical conclusion? There are a number of scientific ways to progress - the most obvious to me would be to look for patterns in the manifestation of &#8216;magic&#8217; experiences, to establish whether there is a repeating, underlying mechanism. Further, we can test for information transfer - ie. can we find an example of information transfer between &#8216;magic&#8217; experiences which does not use the known methods. There is a history of this in the &#8216;book tests&#8217; of psychical research with allegedly discarnate beings (I&#8217;ve also seen a suggestion from a scientist on testing the ability to retrieve &#8216;objective&#8217; information from the DMT realms which would be a similar experiment). To throw your hands in the air and say &#8220;it&#8217;s magic, it&#8217;s untestable!&#8221; seems to me to be a most unscientific thing to do (not least because you&#8217;re not thinking rationally, on the basis of an existing bias against a certain result).</p>
<p>Beyond my belief that scientific investigation is possible though, I must also state my opinion that science is a tool that can explore only so far. Science was developed for exploring the physical world, and though we can apply it to manifestations of psychic phenomena in the physical world, it may not necessarily provide an answer - it can&#8217;t cross the threshold, so to speak. I know every physicalist will be perturbed by the above comment, thinking it&#8217;s a copout, but they need to understand the circular thinking in their own logic (that science describes the physical world extremely well, therefore it is the ultimate tool, therefore reality is defined by science, therefore reality is the physical world). Nevertheless, as I mentioned above, science still does offer us a chance to test the phenomenon in a negative fashion - by removing all aspects of physical explanations - such as through anomalous information transfer, impossible physical motions, etc.</p>
<p>Having said that, you could be completely right. I just think all avenues should be explored - without prejudice (just some common sense).</p>
<p>Nick - lovely to see you come out of the pentacle inscribed cupboard, so to speak. While some may reject investigating &#8216;hoodoo&#8217; as unscientific, I for one applaud any researcher willing to get &#8216;down and dirty&#8217; to better understand the topic (next, I expect you to gain a PhD in astrophysics and spacecraft construction&#8230;don&#8217;t disappoint me now).</p>
<p>And as for your mention of Los Alamos and magick&#8230;goddang, you&#8217;ve got me salivating. What immoral act do I have to perform to get a sneak peek at this research?<br />
 <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Kind regards,<br />
Greg</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 15:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jason:

I am pleased that you understand a thing or two about magic. 

What many in Ufology don't know (although closer friends do), is that I have for many years practiced ritual magic regularly, usually with respect to my fascination with Tulpas, and attempts to create and invoke such entitities.

You may not believe that "magic" works (and for the uninitiated, I am not talking about Penn &#038; Teller, rabbit-out-of-the-hat, or saw-the-hot-chick-in-half Vegas type magic) or that it exists or is a testable theory. But it works.

Tulpa phenomena is absolutely real and is not something to screw around with - it can create psychic backlash, and all sorts of problems.

There are a couple of archetypal Tulpas that are easy to create after sustained practice and altered state concentration: one is the classic tall, cloaked figure that approaches your bedroom and invokes terror (a nifty form of assassination for the Intel services that leaves no evidence of anything other than death by natural causes - i.e. scared shitless. Not that such a thing has *ever* been done, mind you...).

I've had much success with that one.

If I were to say right now that tonight I am going to engage in a ritual to ensure that everyone on this list suffers from sleep paralysis at 2AM tomorrow morning and sees a cloaked figure in their bedroom that that oozes hate, then one or two might experience it.

You would probably say that's due to auto-suggestion from me bringing it up. But you'd be wrong, Jason. This stuff works. 

Now, to an extent (shock!), I actually agree with you that it isn't fully testable as to how and why it works.

But...it works.

List: there won't actually be any invoking of cloaked entitites tonight, so sleep easy.

One other thing, Jason: you say that other theories are testable. Some are: but the fact is that for all the testing, theorizing etc that has taken place, no one still has the answers to the UFO puzzle. So, it's irrelevant. It will only be relevant when the this theory or that theory is proven correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jason:</p>
<p>I am pleased that you understand a thing or two about magic. </p>
<p>What many in Ufology don&#8217;t know (although closer friends do), is that I have for many years practiced ritual magic regularly, usually with respect to my fascination with Tulpas, and attempts to create and invoke such entitities.</p>
<p>You may not believe that &#8220;magic&#8221; works (and for the uninitiated, I am not talking about Penn &#038; Teller, rabbit-out-of-the-hat, or saw-the-hot-chick-in-half Vegas type magic) or that it exists or is a testable theory. But it works.</p>
<p>Tulpa phenomena is absolutely real and is not something to screw around with - it can create psychic backlash, and all sorts of problems.</p>
<p>There are a couple of archetypal Tulpas that are easy to create after sustained practice and altered state concentration: one is the classic tall, cloaked figure that approaches your bedroom and invokes terror (a nifty form of assassination for the Intel services that leaves no evidence of anything other than death by natural causes - i.e. scared shitless. Not that such a thing has *ever* been done, mind you&#8230;).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had much success with that one.</p>
<p>If I were to say right now that tonight I am going to engage in a ritual to ensure that everyone on this list suffers from sleep paralysis at 2AM tomorrow morning and sees a cloaked figure in their bedroom that that oozes hate, then one or two might experience it.</p>
<p>You would probably say that&#8217;s due to auto-suggestion from me bringing it up. But you&#8217;d be wrong, Jason. This stuff works. </p>
<p>Now, to an extent (shock!), I actually agree with you that it isn&#8217;t fully testable as to how and why it works.</p>
<p>But&#8230;it works.</p>
<p>List: there won&#8217;t actually be any invoking of cloaked entitites tonight, so sleep easy.</p>
<p>One other thing, Jason: you say that other theories are testable. Some are: but the fact is that for all the testing, theorizing etc that has taken place, no one still has the answers to the UFO puzzle. So, it&#8217;s irrelevant. It will only be relevant when the this theory or that theory is proven correct.</p>
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		<title>By: alanborky</title>
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		<dc:creator>alanborky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 08:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a slightly less whimsical note, NIck, apropos 'black dogs': is it a coincidence the animal these dwellers on the threshold between realms've taken the form of is precisely the same animal who's own mysterious evolvement from the Wolf seems in some way tied into our own emergence as homo sapiens?

Is it also a coincidence that the word 'dog', at least according to me, is derived from the same root as words like 'doctor', 'daughter' and 'ductile', and the latin verb 'ducere', "to draw on, to lead; to be drawn on, to be led," not to mention, (again, according to me), an ultimately close etymological relationship to the words 'eight', 'door' and 'god'?

Is it also a coincidence we see glimpses of certain esoteric spiritual groups going back to prehistory who apparently modelled their relationship with God on that of the Dog's' interaction with Man, viz the mysterious Calebs, ('the Dogs') in the Old Testament, whose function in the Middle-Eastern spiritual ecology seems to be a veiled correspondence to that of the Bodhisattvas, a category of individual supposedly unique to Buddhism?

Finally, if you agree it's not a coincidence, signal this by barking out loud twice, cocking your leg up at an angle of not less than ninety degrees, and promising to urinate on the first front door other than your own you encounter today, (here's a suggestion, why don't you pay Greg Bishop or, better yet, Craig Woolheater a visit today), the sacred syllables, "Woof, woof!"

O no, silly me, that's the Masons!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a slightly less whimsical note, NIck, apropos &#8216;black dogs&#8217;: is it a coincidence the animal these dwellers on the threshold between realms&#8217;ve taken the form of is precisely the same animal who&#8217;s own mysterious evolvement from the Wolf seems in some way tied into our own emergence as homo sapiens?</p>
<p>Is it also a coincidence that the word &#8216;dog&#8217;, at least according to me, is derived from the same root as words like &#8216;doctor&#8217;, &#8216;daughter&#8217; and &#8216;ductile&#8217;, and the latin verb &#8216;ducere&#8217;, &#8220;to draw on, to lead; to be drawn on, to be led,&#8221; not to mention, (again, according to me), an ultimately close etymological relationship to the words &#8216;eight&#8217;, &#8216;door&#8217; and &#8216;god&#8217;?</p>
<p>Is it also a coincidence we see glimpses of certain esoteric spiritual groups going back to prehistory who apparently modelled their relationship with God on that of the Dog&#8217;s&#8217; interaction with Man, viz the mysterious Calebs, (&#8217;the Dogs&#8217;) in the Old Testament, whose function in the Middle-Eastern spiritual ecology seems to be a veiled correspondence to that of the Bodhisattvas, a category of individual supposedly unique to Buddhism?</p>
<p>Finally, if you agree it&#8217;s not a coincidence, signal this by barking out loud twice, cocking your leg up at an angle of not less than ninety degrees, and promising to urinate on the first front door other than your own you encounter today, (here&#8217;s a suggestion, why don&#8217;t you pay Greg Bishop or, better yet, Craig Woolheater a visit today), the sacred syllables, &#8220;Woof, woof!&#8221;</p>
<p>O no, silly me, that&#8217;s the Masons!</p>
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		<title>By: BoyintheMachine</title>
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		<dc:creator>BoyintheMachine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 07:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The concept that UFOs are nuts and bolts machinery piloted by well meaning inhabitants from another planet who just happen to be visiting Earth to enlighten us on our evil ways and save us by spewing new age propaganda is about the most ridiculous concept I have ever entertained."

Hey-Hey-Hey...Why did you tack-on all that extra stuff, implying that it somehow sums up the so-called 'nuts-n-bolts' theory? (It certainly doesn't.)

"What I am properly trying to express is that I think UFOs are anything except interplanetary space craft."

O.K.  I follow you.

"At the risk of suffering your dislike and condemnation and perhaps Lord forbid being called a wand waving crystal gazer. (although those are habits my ancestors gave up millenia ago..) I would say that UFOs in my opinion are obviously interdimensional and from Earth origionally. They are what ancient peoples worshipped for ages and modern peoples classified as demonic. The technology they wield is occultic and magical. Wrap your mind around that. 

Jess"

O.K., Jess, I'm not going to argue with a belief, but I would like to point out that you share as much a 'new-age' take on the phenomena as you judge 'ridiculous' above.

I would very much be intersted in hearing an alternative theory to the UFO phenomena, but alas, people don't seem to understand the differnce between a scientific theory and an assortment of vague statements founded in fantasy.

-Jason</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The concept that UFOs are nuts and bolts machinery piloted by well meaning inhabitants from another planet who just happen to be visiting Earth to enlighten us on our evil ways and save us by spewing new age propaganda is about the most ridiculous concept I have ever entertained.&#8221;</p>
<p>Hey-Hey-Hey&#8230;Why did you tack-on all that extra stuff, implying that it somehow sums up the so-called &#8216;nuts-n-bolts&#8217; theory? (It certainly doesn&#8217;t.)</p>
<p>&#8220;What I am properly trying to express is that I think UFOs are anything except interplanetary space craft.&#8221;</p>
<p>O.K.  I follow you.</p>
<p>&#8220;At the risk of suffering your dislike and condemnation and perhaps Lord forbid being called a wand waving crystal gazer. (although those are habits my ancestors gave up millenia ago..) I would say that UFOs in my opinion are obviously interdimensional and from Earth origionally. They are what ancient peoples worshipped for ages and modern peoples classified as demonic. The technology they wield is occultic and magical. Wrap your mind around that. </p>
<p>Jess&#8221;</p>
<p>O.K., Jess, I&#8217;m not going to argue with a belief, but I would like to point out that you share as much a &#8216;new-age&#8217; take on the phenomena as you judge &#8216;ridiculous&#8217; above.</p>
<p>I would very much be intersted in hearing an alternative theory to the UFO phenomena, but alas, people don&#8217;t seem to understand the differnce between a scientific theory and an assortment of vague statements founded in fantasy.</p>
<p>-Jason</p>
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