Comments on: Alien Mail http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/ UFO News, Views, and More Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:51:51 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: red pill junkie http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-4019 red pill junkie Fri, 30 Nov 2007 01:19:14 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-4019 If they don't scramble your head with their <b>NEURALIZER</b>, that is! ;-) If they don’t scramble your head with their NEURALIZER, that is! ;-)

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-4002 Nick Redfern Thu, 29 Nov 2007 21:52:39 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-4002 Ben: Nope, no APEN-style MIBs knocking on my door... Not yet anyway! Mind you, we live in a tiny 3rd-floor rented Dallas apartment that is only accesible by a gated, entrance point with a coded lock. So, that may be helping keep the pesky MIBs away. If the MIBs are as bad at working coded locks as they are said to be at eating jello, I'll be ok. But if they do come knocking, be assured I will make a blog piece out of it the next day! Ben:

Nope, no APEN-style MIBs knocking on my door…

Not yet anyway!

Mind you, we live in a tiny 3rd-floor rented Dallas apartment that is only accesible by a gated, entrance point with a coded lock. So, that may be helping keep the pesky MIBs away.

If the MIBs are as bad at working coded locks as they are said to be at eating jello, I’ll be ok.

But if they do come knocking, be assured I will make a blog piece out of it the next day!

]]> By: BenDoverEsq. http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3993 BenDoverEsq. Thu, 29 Nov 2007 18:57:59 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3993 Wow, to think my post was the impetus for a Redfern entry- I'm flattered. What got me to wondering was, I recently read the Jenny Randles book about MIBs and she goes into detail about the whole APEN affair. I would have thought/hoped "On the Trail of the Saucer Spies" would have generated some APEN type weirdness. Wow, to think my post was the impetus for a Redfern entry- I’m flattered. What got me to wondering was, I recently read the Jenny Randles book about MIBs and she goes into detail about the whole APEN affair. I would have thought/hoped “On the Trail of the Saucer Spies” would have generated some APEN type weirdness.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3974 Nick Redfern Wed, 28 Nov 2007 15:50:53 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3974 Graylien: I'd have to say that Howard the Duck looked far more real! LOL. Graylien:
I’d have to say that Howard the Duck looked far more real! LOL.

]]> By: Graylien http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3972 Graylien Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:58:05 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3972 That alien looks rather like Howard the Duck. That alien looks rather like Howard the Duck.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3953 Nick Redfern Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:19:19 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3953 Victor: Could be. That's the biggest hassle with getting things anonymously: motivations and the full story always seem to elude us. Victor:
Could be. That’s the biggest hassle with getting things anonymously: motivations and the full story always seem to elude us.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3952 Nick Redfern Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:18:08 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3952 RPJ: Yes, I was a mere kid when the UMMO craze was at its height! LOL. So, no: never a recipent of Ummo material, unfortunately. Ummo was definitely an interesting issue though, and not unlike the APEN puzzle that circulated around UK Ufology in the 70s and early to mid 80s. RPJ:
Yes, I was a mere kid when the UMMO craze was at its height! LOL. So, no: never a recipent of Ummo material, unfortunately.
Ummo was definitely an interesting issue though, and not unlike the APEN puzzle that circulated around UK Ufology in the 70s and early to mid 80s.

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3951 Nick Redfern Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:14:51 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3951 Alien Contactee: Yes, I never knew the name of the sender of the reels. An address *was* listed on the package (an address in Salinas, California), but when I tracked the people down at that address, they knew nothing about it at all and were both surprised and concerned that someone had used their address. So, clearly, someone was covering their tracks by putting a real address on the package in case they were required to do so by the postal service they used, but not *their* real address. Although, it *was* definitely mailed from the city (Salinas) where the address was situated. That was evident from checks I made with the postal service. I know for certain they were originally obtained at the National Archives because they all came in small, square green boxes with the NA stamp on that are the sort that NA sends their reels out in if you order copies of their files by mail. On one of my trips to the NA about 2 years ago, I took one of the boxes with me and showed it to one of the guys who worked in the reading-room there. He confirmed it was one of theirs, checked the file-numbers on the reel and confirmed they had been declassified in 2000, but claimed they couldn't (or more likely wouldn't) tell me who had ordered them. There were 13 reels - which would have cost quite a bit to purchase - and I'd say anywhere from about 300 to 500 pages per reel. "Anonymous" may indeed be scratching his or her head; however, until I get to go through them all, and try and determine which of the documents - if any - is of significance, it will be difficult to know the motivation behind sending them. And there's the possibility that the motivation might have been to draw my attention to certain people names in the files, rather than their content. If they're reading this, maybe they can give me more of an idea what I should be looking for in the files! One thing I did wonder about was the fact that they were mailed from Salinas. Timothy Cooper claimed to have got some of his leaked documents from a source named "Salina." I did wonder if the fact that they were mailed to me from Salinas was an indication that someone was trying to tell me it was the same person. That's admitted speculation, however, and I have nothing at all to really base that on aside from the similarity. Alien Contactee:
Yes, I never knew the name of the sender of the reels.
An address *was* listed on the package (an address in Salinas, California), but when I tracked the people down at that address, they knew nothing about it at all and were both surprised and concerned that someone had used their address.
So, clearly, someone was covering their tracks by putting a real address on the package in case they were required to do so by the postal service they used, but not *their* real address.
Although, it *was* definitely mailed from the city (Salinas) where the address was situated. That was evident from checks I made with the postal service.
I know for certain they were originally obtained at the National Archives because they all came in small, square green boxes with the NA stamp on that are the sort that NA sends their reels out in if you order copies of their files by mail.
On one of my trips to the NA about 2 years ago, I took one of the boxes with me and showed it to one of the guys who worked in the reading-room there.
He confirmed it was one of theirs, checked the file-numbers on the reel and confirmed they had been declassified in 2000, but claimed they couldn’t (or more likely wouldn’t) tell me who had ordered them.
There were 13 reels - which would have cost quite a bit to purchase - and I’d say anywhere from about 300 to 500 pages per reel.
“Anonymous” may indeed be scratching his or her head; however, until I get to go through them all, and try and determine which of the documents - if any - is of significance, it will be difficult to know the motivation behind sending them.
And there’s the possibility that the motivation might have been to draw my attention to certain people names in the files, rather than their content.
If they’re reading this, maybe they can give me more of an idea what I should be looking for in the files!
One thing I did wonder about was the fact that they were mailed from Salinas.
Timothy Cooper claimed to have got some of his leaked documents from a source named “Salina.”
I did wonder if the fact that they were mailed to me from Salinas was an indication that someone was trying to tell me it was the same person.
That’s admitted speculation, however, and I have nothing at all to really base that on aside from the similarity.

]]> By: Victor http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3950 Victor Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:51:06 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3950 While government (any government) probably gets up to more sinister secret activities than we suspect, rather than fewer, I'd guess the reason the NASA ET paper got sent to AV Roe/WRD was that some scientist there was interested and requested a copy. After all, nerds will be nerds. While government (any government) probably gets up to more sinister secret activities than we suspect, rather than fewer, I’d guess the reason the NASA ET paper got sent to AV Roe/WRD was that some scientist there was interested and requested a copy.

After all, nerds will be nerds.

]]> By: aliencontactee http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3949 aliencontactee Tue, 27 Nov 2007 20:00:14 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/alien-mail/#comment-3949 That was a nice blast from the past seeing Truthseeker Mags name there. Question, were the White Sands' reels anonymous and if so, wouldn't anonymous be scratching their head about now, or is it not that big of a deal? That was a nice blast from the past seeing Truthseeker Mags name there. Question, were the White Sands’ reels anonymous and if so, wouldn’t anonymous be scratching their head about now, or is it not that big of a deal?

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