Comments on: “Alarming” News

By: crgintx

crgintx — Thu, 12 Jul 2007 08:02:28 +0000

As Scotty from Star Trek once said the more complex the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain. A well organized counterintelligence unit could easily turn most conventional security systems to their advantage. Look at the failed attempts at prohibition of alcohol and recreational drug use as to how effective these spy systems really work. They curb some of the amateur efforts but the smart ones never get caught and the gov’t doesn’t advertise its shortcomings and gaping holes of its surveillance infrastructure. I’ll bet some very smart kid has already analyzed the sound frequency of the device and has setup his I-pod to emit a noise cancellation tone, he’ll sell the mp3 on ebay and be a millionaire before he’s 20. As far as gov’t spy cams are concerned, they have to have monitors who actually well trained and motivated for them to be even remotely effective.

By: elfis

elfis — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 18:21:26 +0000

UTH - yer right to some degree but … are you familiar with these:

Google StreeView
http://maps.google.com/help/maps/streetview/

Sentient world: war games on the grandest scale - The Register
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/23/sentient_worlds/

Alcalde - good points. As my fave cyberpunk author William Gibson wrote, “the street always finds new uses for the latest technology” (or words to that effect).

SMiles

By: alcalde

alcalde — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 17:38:22 +0000

Don’t give up hope yet. Our American teenagers have found a way to turn the tables on this technology. They’ve taken the “Mosquito” inaudible-to-adults sound and turned it into a cellphone ring tone! They’re using it in schools now… the kids’ phones can ring in the middle of class, and while the students can hear it, most adults can’t!

By: uth

uth — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 13:33:44 +0000

Nick,

I think we already live in such a state- There are cameras at traffic lights, ATMs, face-recognition technology. People’s movements can be tracked via cell phones, GPS, credit card transactions, Toll booth ‘ez pass’ beacons, etc.

On public satellite sites, I can see my house in pretty good detail, I can only imagine what kind of detail classified satellites can see.

Tivo knows your viewing habits, Google knows your web habits, etc.

Privacy is a myth as I see it. The only reason we have a semblence of privacy is that a 1984-style monitoring situation is logistically impossible because it would require a large portion of the population to be employed just to monitor the rest of the population. Right now they only find you when they review the tapes or data.

By: uberman21

uberman21 — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:27:56 +0000

Working in the security industry i see how people in our industry think civil liberties and the like are a real barrier to what they are trying to achieve. What’s more worrying than them is the general public, fed on fear, progressively complying with the systematic removal of freedom and privacy.

In the case of the mosquito though i think you’re wrong and overstating the implications. It’s an intelligent application to solve a specific problem. It’s effectively a teen (yob) repellent and the store in the article did not use it properly.

The question of the media and fear aside, it is a fact of modern life that teenage yob culture is evident and this culture is dangerous with numerous murders of people going about their business and kids in schools. Private residents and business owners should have a means of protecting their Health & Safety through preventive means because the Police won’t be there to do it.

By: sasdave

sasdave — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:48:30 +0000

I fully agree from where your coming. Only problem is the truth regarding UFO’s has had its’ share of disinformation; especially, from the powers that are in control. So how is it that differant when they use the above technology for supposed teenage control. Slave breeding and control is alive and well and the natsies that are in control have many weapons to do the evil they choose. You can bet the above technology is the same tool invented years ago that has adjustable settings to implode any body or being to a flaming cinder. Microwaves have been used for more then cooking animal flesh. The implants will be physical as the secret mental brainwashing is getting tiresome. Implant a chip and you are at the control of those that use their own citizens to do the deeds of the soulless. Hope to be wrong as the people on the inside have to do something as they are the ace to save all the children of the world.

By: Nick Redfern

Nick Redfern — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:36:29 +0000

Uth:

I think the thing that is of most concern is that this is a technology being developed to specifically affect teenagers.

Note from the article too that this technology is not being used in riot zones or on the battlefield, but is being installed in shops and stores.

It’s one thing to use a technology in a hostile situation, but a very different one to install it in your local grocery shop - as specifically happened in the case in the article.

I agree that this in itself isn’t a step towards implants. But my point here is that it seems people are complacently sitting back and just letting the official world turn our world into more and more of a surveillance state, when in reality people should be doing something about it.

And when people do nothing, it’s totally their fault if they wake up one morning to find themselves living in a world full of surveillance, microchips and stupid new laws pushed through with no justification.

I can alert people via the blog and at conferences and on the radio etc., and do my bit (as I see it, at least), but everyone needs to be aware that something needs to be done to prevent us drifting into a 1984 world.

The disturbing thing is that to reach that 1984 state actually doesn’t require some huge government clampdown.

Instead, a slow and steady change and an introduction of new technology and rules - coupled with a public that is either too complacent, ignorant or scared to stand up as a collective group - means that a 1984 world can slowly and effectively be introduced under the radar.

Then people will go: “Oh…how did we get here?” The answer is simple: no-one ever tried to systematically stop the change.

By: uth

uth — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:19:47 +0000

This audio technology seems benign compared to some of the tactics already used by law enforcement, such as tasers, pepper spray & water cannons.

I don’t think it’s necessarily a step towards implants.

By: elfis

elfis — Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:39:52 +0000

Yes Nick, I suspect you are correct in many of your assertions in this and the other cited post of yours.

Ever since I withdrew from my previous belief in the prevailing UFO Myths I’ve tended towards the Psychotronic perspective RE: UFOs and Close Encounters.

In fact, I’ve said for some time that we might learn a heck of a lot more from UFO Encounters if we consider them testing of psychotronic technology by human agencies.

And the IMPLANT card is most definitely in the plans and certain to be deployed as mandatory after the next “terrorist” attack of any magnitude.

Miles