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		<title>By: paulkimball</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/23/socorro-hoaxed/#comment-10403</link>
		<dc:creator>paulkimball</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick,

This will come and go in a few days, simply because, as with his Roswell stuff, Bragalia is just spinning a story, with no actual proof. 

It's bad when someone tries to convince you that ET landed based on hearsay and a complete lack of hard evidence. It's just as bad when they use the same things to assert the contrary.

But that seems to be Bragalia's M.O. - make some sensational claims about well-known cases in order to get some publicity.

Paul</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>This will come and go in a few days, simply because, as with his Roswell stuff, Bragalia is just spinning a story, with no actual proof. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad when someone tries to convince you that ET landed based on hearsay and a complete lack of hard evidence. It&#8217;s just as bad when they use the same things to assert the contrary.</p>
<p>But that seems to be Bragalia&#8217;s M.O. - make some sensational claims about well-known cases in order to get some publicity.</p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/23/socorro-hoaxed/#comment-10395</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bragalia's post appeals to authority  (scientists) as unimpeachable and makes many assumptions about how the hoax could be pulled off. I found myself thinking that the scientists he consulted may have heard rumors of a prank and pounced on them to dismiss the Socorro case.

I don't know what Zamora saw, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a balloon and students in lab coats. The hot air balloon explanation holds more water than this, yet it still doesn't explain the flame shooting down as witnessed, as a propane burner would blow the flame up (into the balloon envelope.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bragalia&#8217;s post appeals to authority  (scientists) as unimpeachable and makes many assumptions about how the hoax could be pulled off. I found myself thinking that the scientists he consulted may have heard rumors of a prank and pounced on them to dismiss the Socorro case.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what Zamora saw, but I&#8217;m pretty sure it wasn&#8217;t a balloon and students in lab coats. The hot air balloon explanation holds more water than this, yet it still doesn&#8217;t explain the flame shooting down as witnessed, as a propane burner would blow the flame up (into the balloon envelope.)</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/23/socorro-hoaxed/#comment-10390</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And, obviously, a run-on sentence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, obviously, a run-on sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/23/socorro-hoaxed/#comment-10389</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;There are names, people, documents...&lt;/em&gt;

Yes. Someone who knew someone who knew someone else ... utterly convincing. My friend has a cousin whose friend totally found her Doberman choking on a burglar's finger, too!

And I can't help noting, in the end, how it all comes down to the classic debunker ploy of calling Lonny Zamora a dumb Mexican. 

I certainly don't believe the hoax explanation is impossible, if anyone was actually convinced by this presentation, I have some Iraqi WMDs to sell them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>There are names, people, documents&#8230;</em></p>
<p>Yes. Someone who knew someone who knew someone else &#8230; utterly convincing. My friend has a cousin whose friend totally found her Doberman choking on a burglar&#8217;s finger, too!</p>
<p>And I can&#8217;t help noting, in the end, how it all comes down to the classic debunker ploy of calling Lonny Zamora a dumb Mexican. </p>
<p>I certainly don&#8217;t believe the hoax explanation is impossible, if anyone was actually convinced by this presentation, I have some Iraqi WMDs to sell them.</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/23/socorro-hoaxed/#comment-10386</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, it was a college prank â€” they say.

It's another hear-say story, as plausible and credible as the stories of Werner Von Braun telling someone about the Roswell Saucer crash.

If it indeed was a helium balloon concocted with fireworks (kind of a dangerous mix), then we'd still have to explain how &lt;i&gt;"The object traveled &lt;b&gt;very fast&lt;/b&gt; (emphasis mine) over [Zamora], and then just three feet above a nearby shack- and finally out of view over another hill."&lt;/i&gt;

Also, it wasn't only Zamora the fooled, but also Dr. Allen Hynek. That doesn't mean that Hynek wasn't impervious to be fooled, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, it was a college prank â€” they say.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s another hear-say story, as plausible and credible as the stories of Werner Von Braun telling someone about the Roswell Saucer crash.</p>
<p>If it indeed was a helium balloon concocted with fireworks (kind of a dangerous mix), then we&#8217;d still have to explain how <i>&#8220;The object traveled <b>very fast</b> (emphasis mine) over [Zamora], and then just three feet above a nearby shack- and finally out of view over another hill.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Also, it wasn&#8217;t only Zamora the fooled, but also Dr. Allen Hynek. That doesn&#8217;t mean that Hynek wasn&#8217;t impervious to be fooled, of course.</p>
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