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	<title>Comments on: Why Don&#8217;t Aliens Freak People Out?</title>
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		<title>By: paigetheoracle</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/22/why-dont-aliens-freak-people-out/#comment-10824</link>
		<dc:creator>paigetheoracle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, they may see us as parents see children - petty annoyances with questions that are pointless and actions that only distract them from what they came here to do ('I'm making the tea dear - go ask your father!'/  'Don't get in the way I'm building a thingummy bob, Tommy').  In other words why ask where they came from if we've no ability to get their ourselves (totally irrelevant chit-chat as with the dentist on a visit).

Yes, I too believe that officialdom's attitude is that creatures that can walk through walls, pilot craft that defy every human aircraft's capabilities or ground supports ability to track them or bring them down, plus kidnap people under everyone's noses without hindrance - can't be dealt with or interacted with, so leaves you as individuals and societies, with the comment 'So what do you expect me to do about it?'

As for the connection of UFO's and Aliens - if these are manned craft, why travel all this way here and not get out to investigate where they are ('If this is Thursday, it must be Earth - galactic tourists)?  If unmanned, why send them here in the first place?  Don't create mysteries where there are rational answers in existence already but do seek answers to those things we 'think' we do understand already (our prejudices).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, they may see us as parents see children - petty annoyances with questions that are pointless and actions that only distract them from what they came here to do (&#8217;I'm making the tea dear - go ask your father!&#8217;/  &#8216;Don&#8217;t get in the way I&#8217;m building a thingummy bob, Tommy&#8217;).  In other words why ask where they came from if we&#8217;ve no ability to get their ourselves (totally irrelevant chit-chat as with the dentist on a visit).</p>
<p>Yes, I too believe that officialdom&#8217;s attitude is that creatures that can walk through walls, pilot craft that defy every human aircraft&#8217;s capabilities or ground supports ability to track them or bring them down, plus kidnap people under everyone&#8217;s noses without hindrance - can&#8217;t be dealt with or interacted with, so leaves you as individuals and societies, with the comment &#8216;So what do you expect me to do about it?&#8217;</p>
<p>As for the connection of UFO&#8217;s and Aliens - if these are manned craft, why travel all this way here and not get out to investigate where they are (&#8217;If this is Thursday, it must be Earth - galactic tourists)?  If unmanned, why send them here in the first place?  Don&#8217;t create mysteries where there are rational answers in existence already but do seek answers to those things we &#8216;think&#8217; we do understand already (our prejudices).</p>
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		<title>By: LB Swygert</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/22/why-dont-aliens-freak-people-out/#comment-10604</link>
		<dc:creator>LB Swygert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 16:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The witness accounts I find most believable are the ones where the witness is scared to death. It seems like the most logical reaction. When Jackie Gleasonâ€™s wife says that even after heâ€™d spent years reading UFO books that he was still shaken to the core to have the reality confirmed for him by Richard Nixon, that gives the story weight to me. Most people would be horrified to have undeniable evidence of extraterrestrials. However, I think just being told isnâ€™t enough. Having followed the subject in a serious way for a long time, Jackie Gleason probably believed he was a believer. But, he didnâ€™t become a real believer until Richard Nixon walked him into a base and showed him something he couldnâ€™t deny. What he saw with his own eyes drove him to admit to a reality heâ€™d only imagined was true. It was like a blow to the gut and it devastated him, haunting him for the rest of his life. Being told secondhand, even by someone you feel is 100% credible, is not the same as knowing. You might think itâ€™s enough and you might say you believe, but itâ€™s not real until you see it, touch it, know it for yourself. Then, if youâ€™re human, you should be terrified. There should be an instance where you know that oh my God, nothing is ever going to be the same again. I will never be the same again. What was beyond practical belief becomes your new reality and you canâ€™t ever go back to safety. It should drive you to the brink of madness. The monsters are real. The horror! The horror!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The witness accounts I find most believable are the ones where the witness is scared to death. It seems like the most logical reaction. When Jackie Gleasonâ€™s wife says that even after heâ€™d spent years reading UFO books that he was still shaken to the core to have the reality confirmed for him by Richard Nixon, that gives the story weight to me. Most people would be horrified to have undeniable evidence of extraterrestrials. However, I think just being told isnâ€™t enough. Having followed the subject in a serious way for a long time, Jackie Gleason probably believed he was a believer. But, he didnâ€™t become a real believer until Richard Nixon walked him into a base and showed him something he couldnâ€™t deny. What he saw with his own eyes drove him to admit to a reality heâ€™d only imagined was true. It was like a blow to the gut and it devastated him, haunting him for the rest of his life. Being told secondhand, even by someone you feel is 100% credible, is not the same as knowing. You might think itâ€™s enough and you might say you believe, but itâ€™s not real until you see it, touch it, know it for yourself. Then, if youâ€™re human, you should be terrified. There should be an instance where you know that oh my God, nothing is ever going to be the same again. I will never be the same again. What was beyond practical belief becomes your new reality and you canâ€™t ever go back to safety. It should drive you to the brink of madness. The monsters are real. The horror! The horror!</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyangle</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/22/why-dont-aliens-freak-people-out/#comment-10413</link>
		<dc:creator>johnnyangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe the entire phenomenon of UFO's, Flying Saucers, alien contactees, alien abductions and other kinds of paranormal, supernatural experiences have more to do with the human mind than perhaps actual physical occurrences. In most scenarios reality doesn't seem to be exactly what we assume it to be. If we are to believe, and there really is not enough research on these matters, probably because they do sound so damn fantastical, or outright delusional, that some sort of intelligence interacts with our World, it's not an intelligence we can understand, maybe it's so far beyond our understanding, people refer to us as ants in comparison, the intelligence so far beyond the ability of an ant to understand or perceive it, perhaps that is a good analogy. Perhaps we are all fictions, would a fictional being realise it is fictional? The subject is too complex, and I am too simple. 

I enjoyed reading Jacques Vallee's books on the subject, the entire strange intellect interfering with, manipulating us silly monkeys, though just as wild has otherwordly intelligences messing with us, it seems just as possible and again there's not been enough, or any, research into this. From my point of view, paranormal experiences just seem bewildering, confusing, not just unbelievable. I personally hope, if there is anything happening, that it is a fictional reality, bleeding into our own, fuelled by our own imaginations. I do find paranormal beliefs akin to religious beliefs, they must originate from some area of the brain or mind that feeds these abstract concepts.  Even just typing this, thinking about strange, weird experiences that do seem so outrageous confuses me, surely life, the World, the Universe is just not that complex. The idea that this life force, intelligence, is not more advanced as us, makes everything even more complicated, and yet, does make a kind of sense. Throughout the ages people have recorded meeting strange creatures, fairies, elves, beings from other Worlds, sometimes in another space and time, sometimes beneath our very feet, in the modern age these reports no longer continue (?) instead we have reports of little grey men in marvellous flying machines, but the parallels between historical and modern accounts do correlate (?) food being offered, predictions of humanity's doom, threats of greater power. 

If we believe people's reported experiences with odd entities, then it would be an ongoing phenomena, a manipulation of our belief systems, perhaps even a way to control us, even cull us? Again, I am beginning to confuse myself with the possibilities, everything from a cultural phenomenon to real interaction with beings from outer space, it's too complex a puzzle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the entire phenomenon of UFO&#8217;s, Flying Saucers, alien contactees, alien abductions and other kinds of paranormal, supernatural experiences have more to do with the human mind than perhaps actual physical occurrences. In most scenarios reality doesn&#8217;t seem to be exactly what we assume it to be. If we are to believe, and there really is not enough research on these matters, probably because they do sound so damn fantastical, or outright delusional, that some sort of intelligence interacts with our World, it&#8217;s not an intelligence we can understand, maybe it&#8217;s so far beyond our understanding, people refer to us as ants in comparison, the intelligence so far beyond the ability of an ant to understand or perceive it, perhaps that is a good analogy. Perhaps we are all fictions, would a fictional being realise it is fictional? The subject is too complex, and I am too simple. </p>
<p>I enjoyed reading Jacques Vallee&#8217;s books on the subject, the entire strange intellect interfering with, manipulating us silly monkeys, though just as wild has otherwordly intelligences messing with us, it seems just as possible and again there&#8217;s not been enough, or any, research into this. From my point of view, paranormal experiences just seem bewildering, confusing, not just unbelievable. I personally hope, if there is anything happening, that it is a fictional reality, bleeding into our own, fuelled by our own imaginations. I do find paranormal beliefs akin to religious beliefs, they must originate from some area of the brain or mind that feeds these abstract concepts.  Even just typing this, thinking about strange, weird experiences that do seem so outrageous confuses me, surely life, the World, the Universe is just not that complex. The idea that this life force, intelligence, is not more advanced as us, makes everything even more complicated, and yet, does make a kind of sense. Throughout the ages people have recorded meeting strange creatures, fairies, elves, beings from other Worlds, sometimes in another space and time, sometimes beneath our very feet, in the modern age these reports no longer continue (?) instead we have reports of little grey men in marvellous flying machines, but the parallels between historical and modern accounts do correlate (?) food being offered, predictions of humanity&#8217;s doom, threats of greater power. </p>
<p>If we believe people&#8217;s reported experiences with odd entities, then it would be an ongoing phenomena, a manipulation of our belief systems, perhaps even a way to control us, even cull us? Again, I am beginning to confuse myself with the possibilities, everything from a cultural phenomenon to real interaction with beings from outer space, it&#8217;s too complex a puzzle.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/22/why-dont-aliens-freak-people-out/#comment-10400</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The discussion on this thread seems to be concentrated on the idea that any non-humans we might encounter are "more advanced" than us. Once again, one of my main arguments in the post is that there may be NO points of reference for comparison. We continue to try and extrapolate our ideas onto something that may have nothing in common with us except some sort of self-awareness beyond primate levels.

Using our language (and the ideas that follow from it) to try and describe and comprehend something outside of our experience might be futile. Everyone can try, but it is probably a stab in the dark.

A reminder: I don't take the "aliens" phenomenon literally, at least as something that can be counted on like a repeatable experiment. I am using accounts gathered over many years by myself and in the literature to play with concepts that may lead to some sort of better understanding as to what makes people report these things. Until some sort of breakthrough is made, I am reasonably certain that some reports are the result of an external, non-human source acting upon the witness. It's more interesting to me to treat the subject in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The discussion on this thread seems to be concentrated on the idea that any non-humans we might encounter are &#8220;more advanced&#8221; than us. Once again, one of my main arguments in the post is that there may be NO points of reference for comparison. We continue to try and extrapolate our ideas onto something that may have nothing in common with us except some sort of self-awareness beyond primate levels.</p>
<p>Using our language (and the ideas that follow from it) to try and describe and comprehend something outside of our experience might be futile. Everyone can try, but it is probably a stab in the dark.</p>
<p>A reminder: I don&#8217;t take the &#8220;aliens&#8221; phenomenon literally, at least as something that can be counted on like a repeatable experiment. I am using accounts gathered over many years by myself and in the literature to play with concepts that may lead to some sort of better understanding as to what makes people report these things. Until some sort of breakthrough is made, I am reasonably certain that some reports are the result of an external, non-human source acting upon the witness. It&#8217;s more interesting to me to treat the subject in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny,

Sweeping generalizations are less interesting to me than taking some of these "stories" with a degree of acceptance. I can't see how so many people with no interest at all in the subject to begin with have been reporting strange things in the skies and elsewhere for eons. In my opinion, there are many accounts that can't simply be put down to misidentifications, hoaxes, etc.

You are quite right that many of the hardcore UFO fans are so convinced by an unproveable belief that they don't allow any rational thought into their brains. Many questions seem to remain open. Look around on the site and I'm sure you will find that Nick and I (and most of our commenters) are neither believers or fundamentalist skeptics with regard to the UFO subject.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny,</p>
<p>Sweeping generalizations are less interesting to me than taking some of these &#8220;stories&#8221; with a degree of acceptance. I can&#8217;t see how so many people with no interest at all in the subject to begin with have been reporting strange things in the skies and elsewhere for eons. In my opinion, there are many accounts that can&#8217;t simply be put down to misidentifications, hoaxes, etc.</p>
<p>You are quite right that many of the hardcore UFO fans are so convinced by an unproveable belief that they don&#8217;t allow any rational thought into their brains. Many questions seem to remain open. Look around on the site and I&#8217;m sure you will find that Nick and I (and most of our commenters) are neither believers or fundamentalist skeptics with regard to the UFO subject.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand by my point. It isn't difficult to conceive of aliens (which as far as I know is all anyone currently &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; do about them) so advanced - and maybe arrogant - that for all our experimentation and philosophical posturing they find us indistinguishable from mildew. Think about a million-year head start...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by my point. It isn&#8217;t difficult to conceive of aliens (which as far as I know is all anyone currently <em>can</em> do about them) so advanced - and maybe arrogant - that for all our experimentation and philosophical posturing they find us indistinguishable from mildew. Think about a million-year head start&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 14:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And we know that ants do not philosophize how? We appear to have some accomplished animal psychics onboard.

Meanwhile science seems to be uncovering ever more evidence that ant "hive minds" can be unsettlingly sophisticated and powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And we know that ants do not philosophize how? We appear to have some accomplished animal psychics onboard.</p>
<p>Meanwhile science seems to be uncovering ever more evidence that ant &#8220;hive minds&#8221; can be unsettlingly sophisticated and powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/09/22/why-dont-aliens-freak-people-out/#comment-10385</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 11:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm no psychic, johnnyangle; but judging by your comment, I take it that this is the first time you have visited this site ;-)

If you think you'll find a bunch of doe-eyed UFO believers here, I'm afraid you'll end up a bit disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no psychic, johnnyangle; but judging by your comment, I take it that this is the first time you have visited this site <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you think you&#8217;ll find a bunch of doe-eyed UFO believers here, I&#8217;m afraid you&#8217;ll end up a bit disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: johnnyangle</title>
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		<dc:creator>johnnyangle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not freaked out by UFO's, alien visitations, abductions just for the simple reason in my World, which is admittedly very small, these types of events are fictions. They happen in the movies, in TV shows, in comic books and from the imaginative minds of hundreds of writers Worldwide. I enjoy these kinds of fictions, I am a geek, Science Fiction is ace!

The entire Roswell phenomenon is just that a phenomenon, a mythological modern religion, almost, it has it's high priests, the so called UFO researchers who make grand claims, contradict each other, produce honest to goodness eyewitnesses decades after the events, very much like the myth of Christ. The flock are naive, gullible and stupid, we Humans are not blessed with intelligence, contrary to popular belief. No alien bodies were recovered from Roswell in 1947, no Flying Saucer, it's a lie, a fabrication, a fiction. Alien beings aren't visiting Planet Earth. If they were, I would be a little bit worried that their technology is a bit rubbish, okay it can travel vast distances through Space, navigate dangers, such as asteroid belts, comets, black holes, strong gravitational forces from vast Worlds, Stars, glide elegantly through Earth's atmosphere, then crash in a remote area of the US of A. Awesome. How many crashed Flying Saucers have there been in the US of A? Dozens?  Hmm, UFO believers, followers are like people who believe in religions, believe in ghosts, life after death, which is a contradiction in terms, The Loch Ness monster, they want to believe so much in strange otherwordly happenings. They will believe alleged eyewitnesses, anecdotal tall tales, anything and everything to advance their religious notion, becasue that what it is. Vast sprawling conspiracies that are confusing, unbelievable. It's the need to believe in something. I love it. I love that people can believe lies, can believe in crazy stories, can believe that technologically advanced entities interact with us dumb monkeys, that Science Gods zoom through the Heavens to alter our minds, toy with our reality. It's fantastic to live in a World where fictions can cross from the imagination into our perception of reality. Mega!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not freaked out by UFO&#8217;s, alien visitations, abductions just for the simple reason in my World, which is admittedly very small, these types of events are fictions. They happen in the movies, in TV shows, in comic books and from the imaginative minds of hundreds of writers Worldwide. I enjoy these kinds of fictions, I am a geek, Science Fiction is ace!</p>
<p>The entire Roswell phenomenon is just that a phenomenon, a mythological modern religion, almost, it has it&#8217;s high priests, the so called UFO researchers who make grand claims, contradict each other, produce honest to goodness eyewitnesses decades after the events, very much like the myth of Christ. The flock are naive, gullible and stupid, we Humans are not blessed with intelligence, contrary to popular belief. No alien bodies were recovered from Roswell in 1947, no Flying Saucer, it&#8217;s a lie, a fabrication, a fiction. Alien beings aren&#8217;t visiting Planet Earth. If they were, I would be a little bit worried that their technology is a bit rubbish, okay it can travel vast distances through Space, navigate dangers, such as asteroid belts, comets, black holes, strong gravitational forces from vast Worlds, Stars, glide elegantly through Earth&#8217;s atmosphere, then crash in a remote area of the US of A. Awesome. How many crashed Flying Saucers have there been in the US of A? Dozens?  Hmm, UFO believers, followers are like people who believe in religions, believe in ghosts, life after death, which is a contradiction in terms, The Loch Ness monster, they want to believe so much in strange otherwordly happenings. They will believe alleged eyewitnesses, anecdotal tall tales, anything and everything to advance their religious notion, becasue that what it is. Vast sprawling conspiracies that are confusing, unbelievable. It&#8217;s the need to believe in something. I love it. I love that people can believe lies, can believe in crazy stories, can believe that technologically advanced entities interact with us dumb monkeys, that Science Gods zoom through the Heavens to alter our minds, toy with our reality. It&#8217;s fantastic to live in a World where fictions can cross from the imagination into our perception of reality. Mega!</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you all know why the grass in that AREA 51 baseball diamond is tended with such care and devotion...

Indeed, humans are capable of coping with terrible situations. To the American society, 9/11 was the cultural equivalent of child rape; 8 years later people are still flying on airplanes and travelling to Manhattan. I don't know if American citizens are &lt;i&gt;really&lt;/i&gt; expecting to experience another terrorist attack in their lifetime. 

Would the hypothetical (and unlikely) disclosure be similar in cultural and emotional impact with 9/11?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you all know why the grass in that AREA 51 baseball diamond is tended with such care and devotion&#8230;</p>
<p>Indeed, humans are capable of coping with terrible situations. To the American society, 9/11 was the cultural equivalent of child rape; 8 years later people are still flying on airplanes and travelling to Manhattan. I don&#8217;t know if American citizens are <i>really</i> expecting to experience another terrorist attack in their lifetime. </p>
<p>Would the hypothetical (and unlikely) disclosure be similar in cultural and emotional impact with 9/11?</p>
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