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		<title>By: The_Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/07/07/score-one-for-the-extraterrestrial-hypothesis/#comment-9405</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 23:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And people wonder why the space shuttle blows up or falls out of the sky or a Mars probe slams into the planet"

I call it the "ship it anyways" mentality and it is the result of operator error, not anomalies.

"The modern scientific ’status quo’ doesn’t like anomalies to get in the way of expected results especially when it deals with this thing called ‘funding’"

You are confusing politics with science and now you know why no great scientific discoveries have ever come from the military or government.

"You’re absolutely correct than I have no proof of PT’s but to deny their possibile existence without serious investigation is simply throwing out the anomaly that doesn’t fit with your expected result"

The problem when it comes to the existence of angels, paraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials, is not that there is any anomalous data, but there is no data whatsoever. If there are no leads to investigate, there can be no "investigation". And don't confuse storytelling for data -- they are not the same thing -- and storytelling is the only thing we have to go by when it comes to angels, paraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials.

I document anomalies on a daily basis but I also understand exactly why management chooses to ignore anomalies. It is because there are two kinds of anomalies: those that are reproducible and those that are not. It would be very counter-productive to sit there and chase your tail all day long, trying to investigate something that is impossible to reproduce. For an anomaly to be useful or educational or financially viable, it must be reproducible -- or from a practical point of view, it must at least be reasonably reproducible. Statistics 101 considers anything that cannot be reproduced more than one-in-thirty times to be insignificant, but I have seen companies consider something as low as one-in-ten to be insignificant and to these people, "insignificant" means "unreproducible". That is politics and production for you -- and the military and government are no different in this regard. Still, if the anomaly is reasonably reproducible, the process is always shut down and someone will promptly investigate the anomaly, so it is not like they are ignoring anything.

Besides, this is all irrelevant. Neither the military nor the government are taking in data regarding angels, paraterrestrials, or extraterrestrials. Where there is no data, there can be no anomalous data as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And people wonder why the space shuttle blows up or falls out of the sky or a Mars probe slams into the planet&#8221;</p>
<p>I call it the &#8220;ship it anyways&#8221; mentality and it is the result of operator error, not anomalies.</p>
<p>&#8220;The modern scientific ’status quo’ doesn’t like anomalies to get in the way of expected results especially when it deals with this thing called ‘funding’&#8221;</p>
<p>You are confusing politics with science and now you know why no great scientific discoveries have ever come from the military or government.</p>
<p>&#8220;You’re absolutely correct than I have no proof of PT’s but to deny their possibile existence without serious investigation is simply throwing out the anomaly that doesn’t fit with your expected result&#8221;</p>
<p>The problem when it comes to the existence of angels, paraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials, is not that there is any anomalous data, but there is no data whatsoever. If there are no leads to investigate, there can be no &#8220;investigation&#8221;. And don&#8217;t confuse storytelling for data &#8212; they are not the same thing &#8212; and storytelling is the only thing we have to go by when it comes to angels, paraterrestrials, and extraterrestrials.</p>
<p>I document anomalies on a daily basis but I also understand exactly why management chooses to ignore anomalies. It is because there are two kinds of anomalies: those that are reproducible and those that are not. It would be very counter-productive to sit there and chase your tail all day long, trying to investigate something that is impossible to reproduce. For an anomaly to be useful or educational or financially viable, it must be reproducible &#8212; or from a practical point of view, it must at least be reasonably reproducible. Statistics 101 considers anything that cannot be reproduced more than one-in-thirty times to be insignificant, but I have seen companies consider something as low as one-in-ten to be insignificant and to these people, &#8220;insignificant&#8221; means &#8220;unreproducible&#8221;. That is politics and production for you &#8212; and the military and government are no different in this regard. Still, if the anomaly is reasonably reproducible, the process is always shut down and someone will promptly investigate the anomaly, so it is not like they are ignoring anything.</p>
<p>Besides, this is all irrelevant. Neither the military nor the government are taking in data regarding angels, paraterrestrials, or extraterrestrials. Where there is no data, there can be no anomalous data as well.</p>
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		<title>By: crgintx</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/07/07/score-one-for-the-extraterrestrial-hypothesis/#comment-9404</link>
		<dc:creator>crgintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work security at a scientific military research facility here in Texas.  Many times the research team will be here overnight and we'll shoot the breeze about anything to stay awake while the computers are running/doing there thing.  I've worked in test programs while in the military and often knew some of the old guard research fellows.  As is often happens during testing, anomalous data is gathered in with the test results.  I asked how often did it happen and do they ever figure out what's causing the anomalies to occur.  One particular researcher bluntly said if it doesn't fit in with the rest of the results, they toss it.   I then asked if it could caused by a sensor malfunction and he said yes.  I then said if the sensor malfunctioned would the rest of the data possibly be tainted?  He said yes but if the 'good' data met with the expected results everything was fine because they had a deadline to meet.  And people wonder why the space shuttle blows up or falls out of the sky or a Mars probe slams into the planet.  The modern scientific 'status quo' doesn't like anomalies to get in the way of expected results especially when it deals with this thing called 'funding'.   You're absolutely correct than I have no proof of PT's but to deny their possibile existence without serious investigation is simply throwing out the anomaly that doesn't fit with your expected result.  From the so-called biological selection process, I'm not all that sure that science could do any worse.  My evidence for how bad natural selection can be is the daytime televison viewing audience.  Go Jerry Springer! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work security at a scientific military research facility here in Texas.  Many times the research team will be here overnight and we&#8217;ll shoot the breeze about anything to stay awake while the computers are running/doing there thing.  I&#8217;ve worked in test programs while in the military and often knew some of the old guard research fellows.  As is often happens during testing, anomalous data is gathered in with the test results.  I asked how often did it happen and do they ever figure out what&#8217;s causing the anomalies to occur.  One particular researcher bluntly said if it doesn&#8217;t fit in with the rest of the results, they toss it.   I then asked if it could caused by a sensor malfunction and he said yes.  I then said if the sensor malfunctioned would the rest of the data possibly be tainted?  He said yes but if the &#8216;good&#8217; data met with the expected results everything was fine because they had a deadline to meet.  And people wonder why the space shuttle blows up or falls out of the sky or a Mars probe slams into the planet.  The modern scientific &#8217;status quo&#8217; doesn&#8217;t like anomalies to get in the way of expected results especially when it deals with this thing called &#8216;funding&#8217;.   You&#8217;re absolutely correct than I have no proof of PT&#8217;s but to deny their possibile existence without serious investigation is simply throwing out the anomaly that doesn&#8217;t fit with your expected result.  From the so-called biological selection process, I&#8217;m not all that sure that science could do any worse.  My evidence for how bad natural selection can be is the daytime televison viewing audience.  Go Jerry Springer! <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: The_Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/07/07/score-one-for-the-extraterrestrial-hypothesis/#comment-9403</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Your point being?"

Which point didn't you understand?

Genetic modification goes against everything that evolution represents, most notably, natural (as opposed to artificial) selection, and people like Stephen have this delusion that artificial selection will somehow magically work better than natural selection. Magical thinking is not the same thing as scientific, rational, or logical thinking.

I want you to take a look at the kind of things you compare your genetically engineered superhumans to -- Angels, paraterrestrials, ETs, etc. It is very fitting that you would use these kind of things to compare your genetically engineered superhumans to, because they are all just alike since they all only exist in your imagination. You cannot prove the existence of one imaginary being by citing the existence of other imaginary beings.

"Don’t you think a bit strange that ET would come from halfway across the galaxy to study human reproductive systems?"

What I think a bit strange is that anyone would believe that ETs are here, that they have come from halfway across the galaxy, and they are studying human reproductive systems. What was the name of the ET who told you this? Do you have anything real life whose existence isn't in dispute that you can compare your make believe genetically modified superhumans too? I didn't think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your point being?&#8221;</p>
<p>Which point didn&#8217;t you understand?</p>
<p>Genetic modification goes against everything that evolution represents, most notably, natural (as opposed to artificial) selection, and people like Stephen have this delusion that artificial selection will somehow magically work better than natural selection. Magical thinking is not the same thing as scientific, rational, or logical thinking.</p>
<p>I want you to take a look at the kind of things you compare your genetically engineered superhumans to &#8212; Angels, paraterrestrials, ETs, etc. It is very fitting that you would use these kind of things to compare your genetically engineered superhumans to, because they are all just alike since they all only exist in your imagination. You cannot prove the existence of one imaginary being by citing the existence of other imaginary beings.</p>
<p>&#8220;Don’t you think a bit strange that ET would come from halfway across the galaxy to study human reproductive systems?&#8221;</p>
<p>What I think a bit strange is that anyone would believe that ETs are here, that they have come from halfway across the galaxy, and they are studying human reproductive systems. What was the name of the ET who told you this? Do you have anything real life whose existence isn&#8217;t in dispute that you can compare your make believe genetically modified superhumans too? I didn&#8217;t think so.</p>
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		<title>By: crgintx</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/07/07/score-one-for-the-extraterrestrial-hypothesis/#comment-9401</link>
		<dc:creator>crgintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 15:33:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And your point being?  Yellowstone or some other volcano could erupt today and wipe out 90% of all life on Earth or a comet asteroid strike could hit us and leave 1% of life on Earth to survive. IMHO human beings will split into 3 subspecies, naturals which may have roughly 1.8 million years to evolve into another form of humanity(this is based on the biological estimate of the average mammalian species last about 2 million years.  Humans in their closest form have only been around 200k years.)  The Genetically modified humans which will last perhaps a few dozen generations before they cease to be genetically compatible with unmodified humans.  The 3rd race of men, I'll call angels, because at first they'll be cyborg, human and mechanical, these will morph into the vampira, human consciousness being downloaded and uploaded to/from various host organisms and then the Angels, pure human consciousness that can manifest itself into either solid physical form or coherent forms of energy that can be detected directly by the human brain or appear as ghosts.  Let me see, we know as that through DNA studies that this particular form of human has been around 200k years.  We've risen to this level of technology in less than 14k years since the end of the last Ice Age according to the widely accepted version of history.  Given a 300% margin of area for a minimum, that's a technological cycle of 42k years,  so since the arrival of the first of our kind we could have reached this point at least 5 times in our past!  If you go best case of say 10k years, this uplift cycle could have happened 20 times.  My contention is that we aren't being visited by Extra-terrestrials, were being visited by Post-humans or Paraterrestrials.  There's a large amount of oral tradition throughout the world of god-like men and women mating with us 'normals', massive environmental catastrophes and huge climate changes.  Much of what is now the temperate zones of earth which are ideal for human civilization were buried under a mile or more of ice.  Don't you think a bit strange that ET would come from halfway across the galaxy to study human reproductive systems?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And your point being?  Yellowstone or some other volcano could erupt today and wipe out 90% of all life on Earth or a comet asteroid strike could hit us and leave 1% of life on Earth to survive. IMHO human beings will split into 3 subspecies, naturals which may have roughly 1.8 million years to evolve into another form of humanity(this is based on the biological estimate of the average mammalian species last about 2 million years.  Humans in their closest form have only been around 200k years.)  The Genetically modified humans which will last perhaps a few dozen generations before they cease to be genetically compatible with unmodified humans.  The 3rd race of men, I&#8217;ll call angels, because at first they&#8217;ll be cyborg, human and mechanical, these will morph into the vampira, human consciousness being downloaded and uploaded to/from various host organisms and then the Angels, pure human consciousness that can manifest itself into either solid physical form or coherent forms of energy that can be detected directly by the human brain or appear as ghosts.  Let me see, we know as that through DNA studies that this particular form of human has been around 200k years.  We&#8217;ve risen to this level of technology in less than 14k years since the end of the last Ice Age according to the widely accepted version of history.  Given a 300% margin of area for a minimum, that&#8217;s a technological cycle of 42k years,  so since the arrival of the first of our kind we could have reached this point at least 5 times in our past!  If you go best case of say 10k years, this uplift cycle could have happened 20 times.  My contention is that we aren&#8217;t being visited by Extra-terrestrials, were being visited by Post-humans or Paraterrestrials.  There&#8217;s a large amount of oral tradition throughout the world of god-like men and women mating with us &#8216;normals&#8217;, massive environmental catastrophes and huge climate changes.  Much of what is now the temperate zones of earth which are ideal for human civilization were buried under a mile or more of ice.  Don&#8217;t you think a bit strange that ET would come from halfway across the galaxy to study human reproductive systems?</p>
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		<title>By: The_Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/07/07/score-one-for-the-extraterrestrial-hypothesis/#comment-9383</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 16:21:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Stephen Hawking recently said that humans are poised to be able to modify themselves genetically and surpass the slug’s pace of Darwinian evolution...what Hawking calls 'self designed evolution'”

And what would Stephen Hawking know about that? There is a difference between evolution and genetic modification -- and they are not the same thing -- and what Stephen is talking about is genetic modification, not evolution. Evolution is about the idea of one species transforming into another species, and in the process, hopefully making the species more fit for its environment. Genetic modification is not evolution, it is experimenting with things we don't understand. I don't mean humans don't understand genetics, I mean that humans don't understand the consequences of the things they tinker and meddle in, for example, like the tinkering and meddling they have been doing with the environment in the last 100 years. Remember how the Industrial Revolution made the same promises about how it would transform humanity into a new and better species; that life would be better for all and peace would rule the world? Well it didn't happen. Instead humans have bloated CO2 to record levels, polluted our air and water to the point of creating dead zones within them, decimated entire forests and ecologies and as a result, creating so many mass extinctions of life that 70% of biologists are calling this the Sixth Big Extinction event. Humans have yet to learn that, “An organism that thinks only in themes of its own survival will invariably destroy its environment and, as we are learning from bitter experience, will thus destroy itself”, yet they still are arrogant and ignorant enough to believe that they are capable of doing a better job at managing their genes than Nature can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stephen Hawking recently said that humans are poised to be able to modify themselves genetically and surpass the slug’s pace of Darwinian evolution&#8230;what Hawking calls &#8217;self designed evolution&#8217;”</p>
<p>And what would Stephen Hawking know about that? There is a difference between evolution and genetic modification &#8212; and they are not the same thing &#8212; and what Stephen is talking about is genetic modification, not evolution. Evolution is about the idea of one species transforming into another species, and in the process, hopefully making the species more fit for its environment. Genetic modification is not evolution, it is experimenting with things we don&#8217;t understand. I don&#8217;t mean humans don&#8217;t understand genetics, I mean that humans don&#8217;t understand the consequences of the things they tinker and meddle in, for example, like the tinkering and meddling they have been doing with the environment in the last 100 years. Remember how the Industrial Revolution made the same promises about how it would transform humanity into a new and better species; that life would be better for all and peace would rule the world? Well it didn&#8217;t happen. Instead humans have bloated CO2 to record levels, polluted our air and water to the point of creating dead zones within them, decimated entire forests and ecologies and as a result, creating so many mass extinctions of life that 70% of biologists are calling this the Sixth Big Extinction event. Humans have yet to learn that, “An organism that thinks only in themes of its own survival will invariably destroy its environment and, as we are learning from bitter experience, will thus destroy itself”, yet they still are arrogant and ignorant enough to believe that they are capable of doing a better job at managing their genes than Nature can.</p>
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		<title>By: Twitted by mactonnies</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by mactonnies</dc:creator>
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