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	<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Griffin</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/06/08/interview-on-the-paracast/#comment-9447</link>
		<dc:creator>David Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:20:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gareth wrote:
"@davID, I find it ironic that someone who associates with the Exopolitical Movement " [snipped]

- Exactly the tired response I expected from a Paracast groupie on the exopolitics issue. ZZzzz. Old hat.

Let's just leave it agreeing that your sense of irony and mine are at polar opposites. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gareth wrote:<br />
&#8220;@davID, I find it ironic that someone who associates with the Exopolitical Movement &#8221; [snipped]</p>
<p>- Exactly the tired response I expected from a Paracast groupie on the exopolitics issue. ZZzzz. Old hat.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s just leave it agreeing that your sense of irony and mine are at polar opposites.<br />
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/06/08/interview-on-the-paracast/#comment-9164</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Thanks for your compliments. I don't know if we would agree on everything, but the fact that you listened to the program is more than most people are willing to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thanks for your compliments. I don&#8217;t know if we would agree on everything, but the fact that you listened to the program is more than most people are willing to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/06/08/interview-on-the-paracast/#comment-9163</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 18:39:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gareth,

Been away from the UFOs for a few days...

Thanks for the kudos.

I don't know how (T.V. producer) Seligman got Doty ID'd as Falcon. Why a television producer should be privy to information that escapes everyone else is curious to me. 

It's just not that important to me to check up on it. Actually, it's up to Hastings, as he came up with the info. He has not answered on the source (for Seligman's quote/opinion) yet, or indeed his other source for the "Doty was Falcon" theory, which was Doty himself (who told this to Linda Howe.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gareth,</p>
<p>Been away from the UFOs for a few days&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the kudos.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know how (T.V. producer) Seligman got Doty ID&#8217;d as Falcon. Why a television producer should be privy to information that escapes everyone else is curious to me. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s just not that important to me to check up on it. Actually, it&#8217;s up to Hastings, as he came up with the info. He has not answered on the source (for Seligman&#8217;s quote/opinion) yet, or indeed his other source for the &#8220;Doty was Falcon&#8221; theory, which was Doty himself (who told this to Linda Howe.)</p>
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		<title>By: BenDoverEsq.</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/06/08/interview-on-the-paracast/#comment-9129</link>
		<dc:creator>BenDoverEsq.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think The Paracast is awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: Gareth</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2009/06/08/interview-on-the-paracast/#comment-9101</link>
		<dc:creator>Gareth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Kenn, for the book suggestions. FWIW I remember enjoying all of your Paracast appearances (after checking I remembered you had had quite a few visits).

@davID, I find it ironic that someone who associates with the 'Exopolitical "Movement"' to such an extent that they promote it in their signature, would attempt to take others to task about intellectual integrity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kenn, for the book suggestions. FWIW I remember enjoying all of your Paracast appearances (after checking I remembered you had had quite a few visits).</p>
<p>@davID, I find it ironic that someone who associates with the &#8216;Exopolitical &#8220;Movement&#8221;&#8216; to such an extent that they promote it in their signature, would attempt to take others to task about intellectual integrity.</p>
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		<title>By: David Griffin</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Griffin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:25:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all 

- Well this interview area was set to get many of us riled in one way or another. Last year I saw Kenn talk in Liverpool, England and liked his style then -  I now like him even more for being one of the FEW researchers who aren't concerned about their net 'PR rating' and speak up about these pseudo-rationalist hosts who really need to stay firmly in a 1970s paranormal reality tunnel. Let's face it - for all their claims to separate the UFOlogical wheat from the chaff they, in my mind, just don't cut it when it comes to handling anything more than ghosts and archaic banter over Roswell.

Anyone who generalises Tim Leary's contribution to post-war culture as 'moronic' I'm afraid immediately shows their inability to see things from the kaleidoscopic, mosaic-like structure that is undoubtedly demanded when examining things through the lens of the UFO either/and/or a psychedelic framework. To mistake Leary's occasional liaisons with the CIA post Black Panther period or assuming just because the CIA bought a large chunk of Lysergic acid from Sandoz ergo [get it!?] he was part of a counter-cultural mind-op is plain silly. This argument has been done to death and I've never seen anyone present a case that impacted significantly on what he achieved in other ways.

The Paracast has this dubious fetish for 'intellectual integrity' - apparently Leary was lacking this and Biedny made sure Lloyd Pye was told something similar in their awful encounter with him on the show. Leary was an academic and also a prankster - where is it written that you should carry out a process of cultural catalysation with 'intellectual integrity'? - This was the whole reason Leary left the academic framework.

A wider issue is perhaps that The Paracast take their highly dubious definition of intellect and what constitutes 'proof' into the wider UFO and exopolitical field. This has led to numerous clashes with guests that genuinely had something to say but they won't be back anytime soon I suspect. I would be as bold as to suggest that their take on these issues is pretty dated - it's a 'paranormal' meta-framework that no longer applies to complex cases that require a degree of parallel processing as seen in the psychedelic space - one that to an extent exists *outside* the true/hoax framework that Biedny and Steinberg are so fond of.

I think it's fair to suggest that discussion of Leary and psychedelic culture as well as the link between entheogenic experiences and the iconic 'Saucer' demands those involved to have seriously perturbed their nervous systems. Just as when I asked, Jeremy Vaeni admitted he hadn't tried any serious psychoactive prior to interviewing Dennis McKenna - I feel The Paracast should give out a similar disclaimer prior to any discussions approaching these areas. Biedny may claim to have experience in this area -  but I'd suggest *if* it did ever happen -  the experience needs repeating at a higher dose and more frequently. There's a certain humility in the face of complex issues such as the role of the UFO that is lacking from the Paracast as a whole.

I'm pleased you went on though Greg and I wish more guests would tackle the topics you do in the manner which you did. Kudos to you and Kenn. 

PS: Your Peter Robbins interview is great.

davID, Exopolitics UK
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all </p>
<p>- Well this interview area was set to get many of us riled in one way or another. Last year I saw Kenn talk in Liverpool, England and liked his style then -  I now like him even more for being one of the FEW researchers who aren&#8217;t concerned about their net &#8216;PR rating&#8217; and speak up about these pseudo-rationalist hosts who really need to stay firmly in a 1970s paranormal reality tunnel. Let&#8217;s face it - for all their claims to separate the UFOlogical wheat from the chaff they, in my mind, just don&#8217;t cut it when it comes to handling anything more than ghosts and archaic banter over Roswell.</p>
<p>Anyone who generalises Tim Leary&#8217;s contribution to post-war culture as &#8216;moronic&#8217; I&#8217;m afraid immediately shows their inability to see things from the kaleidoscopic, mosaic-like structure that is undoubtedly demanded when examining things through the lens of the UFO either/and/or a psychedelic framework. To mistake Leary&#8217;s occasional liaisons with the CIA post Black Panther period or assuming just because the CIA bought a large chunk of Lysergic acid from Sandoz ergo [get it!?] he was part of a counter-cultural mind-op is plain silly. This argument has been done to death and I&#8217;ve never seen anyone present a case that impacted significantly on what he achieved in other ways.</p>
<p>The Paracast has this dubious fetish for &#8216;intellectual integrity&#8217; - apparently Leary was lacking this and Biedny made sure Lloyd Pye was told something similar in their awful encounter with him on the show. Leary was an academic and also a prankster - where is it written that you should carry out a process of cultural catalysation with &#8216;intellectual integrity&#8217;? - This was the whole reason Leary left the academic framework.</p>
<p>A wider issue is perhaps that The Paracast take their highly dubious definition of intellect and what constitutes &#8216;proof&#8217; into the wider UFO and exopolitical field. This has led to numerous clashes with guests that genuinely had something to say but they won&#8217;t be back anytime soon I suspect. I would be as bold as to suggest that their take on these issues is pretty dated - it&#8217;s a &#8216;paranormal&#8217; meta-framework that no longer applies to complex cases that require a degree of parallel processing as seen in the psychedelic space - one that to an extent exists *outside* the true/hoax framework that Biedny and Steinberg are so fond of.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s fair to suggest that discussion of Leary and psychedelic culture as well as the link between entheogenic experiences and the iconic &#8216;Saucer&#8217; demands those involved to have seriously perturbed their nervous systems. Just as when I asked, Jeremy Vaeni admitted he hadn&#8217;t tried any serious psychoactive prior to interviewing Dennis McKenna - I feel The Paracast should give out a similar disclaimer prior to any discussions approaching these areas. Biedny may claim to have experience in this area -  but I&#8217;d suggest *if* it did ever happen -  the experience needs repeating at a higher dose and more frequently. There&#8217;s a certain humility in the face of complex issues such as the role of the UFO that is lacking from the Paracast as a whole.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m pleased you went on though Greg and I wish more guests would tackle the topics you do in the manner which you did. Kudos to you and Kenn. </p>
<p>PS: Your Peter Robbins interview is great.</p>
<p>davID, Exopolitics UK<br />
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		<title>By: Kenn Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenn Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you made my point there about childishness, deebs. Here's to one day that you might understand why RAW probably would have disliked you calling his good friend and mentor insulting names on your little computer, from which I am happily blacklisted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you made my point there about childishness, deebs. Here&#8217;s to one day that you might understand why RAW probably would have disliked you calling his good friend and mentor insulting names on your little computer, from which I am happily blacklisted.</p>
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		<title>By: dbiedny</title>
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		<dc:creator>dbiedny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 05:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kenn Thomas, speaker for the dead.

Yeah, tell me about _my_ ego...

Kenny, don't fret, we'll never waste our precious time having you back on our "little webcast". :-)

dB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kenn Thomas, speaker for the dead.</p>
<p>Yeah, tell me about _my_ ego&#8230;</p>
<p>Kenny, don&#8217;t fret, we&#8217;ll never waste our precious time having you back on our &#8220;little webcast&#8221;. <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>dB</p>
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		<title>By: Kenn Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenn Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, it just occurred to me that the old boy could stand a correction. If we take e-prime seriously (the practice of reducing passive sentence structure by avoiding the verb "to be", as Greg explained on that program), RAW should have titled Right Where You Are Sitting Now differently. He should have called it Right Where You Now Sit.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, it just occurred to me that the old boy could stand a correction. If we take e-prime seriously (the practice of reducing passive sentence structure by avoiding the verb &#8220;to be&#8221;, as Greg explained on that program), RAW should have titled Right Where You Are Sitting Now differently. He should have called it Right Where You Now Sit.</p>
<p>&#8220;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kenn Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kenn Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good lord. Why would anyone lump RAW in with Leary. RAW loved Leary. Everything he did was predicated on Leary. Anyone who reads even one of RAW's books all the way through knows this. dB here is talking through his opinion.

"Reactionary attitude"--haha! I guess Cliff's Notes has one on Karl Marx too.

RAW's best work can be found in the original Illuminatus! trilogy and the Cosmic Trigger books. Of his essays, I like Right Where You Are Sitting Now, particularly the essay on the French statistician Anderla, who calculated the accelerating information flow. A reader should be able to come away from that with more than just cooing about its "incredibly insightful thoughts". Hoo boy. 

RAW would really think that what was said on that show about Tim Leary stinks. It owes both men an apology.
I don't really remember much about whatever interview I did on it--there are so many of these little webcasts--just that it ended with similar insults being tossed my way for many days afterward in its forum. Really childish stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good lord. Why would anyone lump RAW in with Leary. RAW loved Leary. Everything he did was predicated on Leary. Anyone who reads even one of RAW&#8217;s books all the way through knows this. dB here is talking through his opinion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Reactionary attitude&#8221;&#8211;haha! I guess Cliff&#8217;s Notes has one on Karl Marx too.</p>
<p>RAW&#8217;s best work can be found in the original Illuminatus! trilogy and the Cosmic Trigger books. Of his essays, I like Right Where You Are Sitting Now, particularly the essay on the French statistician Anderla, who calculated the accelerating information flow. A reader should be able to come away from that with more than just cooing about its &#8220;incredibly insightful thoughts&#8221;. Hoo boy. </p>
<p>RAW would really think that what was said on that show about Tim Leary stinks. It owes both men an apology.<br />
I don&#8217;t really remember much about whatever interview I did on it&#8211;there are so many of these little webcasts&#8211;just that it ended with similar insults being tossed my way for many days afterward in its forum. Really childish stuff.</p>
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