UFO Roundtable on The Paracast
Nick, Paul Kimball and I are guests on the current installment of the excellent Paracast program, which was posted on May 10th. The show is hosted by Gene Steinberg and David Biedny, who will often take their guests to task if they think that there is something fishy going on, and seem to ask the questions that others will often avoid.
To give you an idea of what was discussed, here is my entry on the show from their community forums:
I think that the main messages [from the show] bear repeating as often as possible, and to a wide audience:
1) The ETH should get a rest.
What might happen if UFO researchers and aficionados (which are probably the same thing) dropped the ETH for a few years? Would the phenomenon change to adapt to other expectations? I tend to think so. What would that tell us? I think that it would indicate that the phenomenon is much more complicated and intimately connected to us than we might think.
2) MJ-12 is a dead end (mostly.)
What truth is there in that mass of disinfo? Is it that the U.S. Government is/ was concerned with the UFO question? We know that already. I mentioned my idea that MJ-12 probably existed, but was not what we are led to believe. Probably it was concerned with foreign technology and aerospace, and that if any researchers ever got closer to the truth of the matter, it would tend to reinforce their prejudices. Perfect for the original creators of the documents.
3) Roswell is a non-issue.
It’s sort of like the JFK assassination–it will never be solved to everyone’s satisfaction. Most people outside of the UFO hardcore believe it was an alien craft (if that is their preconception) or a Mogul balloon train (if they don’t “believe” in UFOs.) Both groups find ample evidence in the literature to back this up, and ignore “facts” which do not agree with their beliefs. I don’t see any evidence of this changing, ever.
4) Serious people should treat the UFO mystery seriously.
The point that UFO researchers should be hammering home to the “respectable” segments of our society (the ones who get the grant money and who determine what goes on the news and science shows) is that there is a real phenomenon going on which deserves to have money and brain power thrown at it for awhile. One of the best examples of this sort of propagandizing is Paul [Kimball]’s Best Evidence film. Since the subject draws some of the most weak-minded, undiscerning and loudest people around it, this is a tall order. Perhaps this problem is insumountable at this point in history. That doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t try.
While you’re there, have a listen to the other shows and join the forum, which seems to attract more of the thoughtful aficionacos (sort of like this site!)
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May 16 2009 
May 16th, 2009 at 11:00 pm
Cool show Greg. Can’t beat the Paracast for a good interview. Their getting a bit of a reputation as the watchdogs of ufology & a damn good job they do of it too. Biedny’s “Angry Human” show is a cool listen also.
May 17th, 2009 at 9:07 am
Very entertaining interview Greg/Nick/Paul.
They should make you guys regulars. By the way Greg, I’ve never eaten at a Jack in the Box. Do they really serve breakfast?
May 17th, 2009 at 9:08 am
Actually, I should say Greg/NICHOLAS/Paul. Cracked me up the way he kept calling Nick “Nicholas”. Kept expecting him to hand out a detention or something.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:12 pm
Mullpig,
I just can’t get worked up enough about UFO dorks/ charlatans to argue with them on my show. No one really pays much attention to them anyway, but I’m glad that someone is doing it after Royce Myers quit.
May 17th, 2009 at 7:15 pm
BenD,
People like Paul and Mac Tonnies seem to be regulars already.
ALL the fast food places serve breakfast now, even Subway fercrissake. I try to avoid them, but I was in a hurry.
May 18th, 2009 at 4:23 am
Ben:
LOL, yeah I hardly ever get called Nicholas, so when I am, even I think it’s weird!
May 20th, 2009 at 1:46 am
Hey Greg,
Since you mentioned your show & I have no doubt your as busy as a blue arsed fly, I was just wondering if there’s any plans on putting up any new interviews on your site in the forseeable future. I’m hanging for a Misterioso fix. Cheer’s
May 21st, 2009 at 5:14 am
Mull,
I’m asking around for a new server. This is also why I’ve not been doing any interviews lately. Coming up soon will be Peter Robbins. I’m also making a push for other big fish in the near future. I’ll also be in the studio with a longtime friend who basically introduced me to the shadowy side of government UFO secrecy. It’s someone nobody has really heard of.
Thanks for your interest in the show!
May 21st, 2009 at 12:26 pm
In the words of my son, AWESOME !