Report: Dulce Underground Base Conference
The first “Underground Base Conference” is wrapped. Right near this small town on the Jicarilla Apache reservation land may be located one of the most infamous legends in UFO history: the Dulce base. About 100 people (organizers expected 20-30) showed up for the one day event, which almost didn’t happen.
Just after the proceedings started at 10AM in the hotel bar, the management told organizer Norio Hayakawa that no more people could be stuffed into the room without a fire code violation. About 20 people stood outside the door, trying to hear former rancher Ed Gomez’ talk about the nearly two decades-long history of cattle mutilations on his family ranch near Dulce. The problem with destroyed cattle became so bad that the family was forced out of the beef business. Gomez contends that the problem has zero to do with aliens and much to do with biological warfare and contamination of livestock. He also spoke favorably about Paul Bennewitz and his early visits to Dulce and the Gomez ranch. Gomez urged the few area residents who were at the conference to stand up for their rights and ask the local and national authorities what has been going on in this small community for over 30 years.
After a few phone calls by helpful locals, we moved across the street to the community center where everyone was able to listen to the rest of the day’s lectures and presentations. Chris O’Brien spoke about his research in the nearby San Luis Valley, and the high strangeness/ paranormal aspects of the UFO phenomenon. Former Highway Patrol officer Gabe Valdez acknowledged his long time presence in the area, but since he is still involved in research surrounding the mysteries of his time in Dulce, he chose to keep his comments brief, emphasizing his belief that cattle mutilations are part of a much larger problem, and not of the ET kind.
Hoyt Velarde, who acted as the public safety officer for the Jicarilla Tribe in the 1970s and ’80s, also echoed the sentiments of Ed Gomez and Valdez. The conundrum of Dulce and the varieties of strangeness that still plague the area was summed up with his koan-like statement “Is Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?” This may have been the most important comment of the afternoon. Think about it, but not too much.
I modified my talk on the Paul Bennewitz case to emphasize that the rumors of an underground base were started by Bennewitz and encouraged by intelligence personnel, eventually finding their way into the UFO lore and repeated by uncritical minds. In the last year, I have started to think that perhaps there was some sort of secret facility in the area, but I’ll need much more information and verifiable proof before I take it beyond this. More on this subject soon.
I missed the talk by exopolitics fixture Dr. Michael Salla (although he sat patiently and attentively through mine) for reasons that will be clear in the next pargraph, as well as Roswell researcher Dennis Balthaser, who lectured on his research on evidence for underground tunnels and facilities.
With all the other weirdness happening around the area, it’s almost not surprising that there have been numerous sightings of a bigfoot-type creature. After my talk, I was invited to go on a short trip to Hoyt Velarde’s beautiful ranch property, along with publisher David Childress and Ron James, who produces video presentations for Stage 3, a Sedona company he co-manages with Chris O’Brien. Ron shot footage of Velarde describing Bigfoot sightings on his land. Velarde has seen the creature on at least two occasions, and hosted a research outing at his ranch with the Bigfoot Field Researchers Organization. Two of his guests were hit with rocks thrown by an unknown hand while hiking in the steep gorges around the ranch. I half expected to get plunked every time we left the truck to shoot a segment. He and visitors have also seen footprints in the mud and snow, strange droppings that do not match any native species in the area, nesting sites too big for elk or deer, and heard eerie howls and screams echoing through the canyons.
Velarde also described the Jicarilla Apache people and their attitudes about outsiders who come to Dulce asking about underground bases, cattle mutilations, and other weird subjects. Understandably, most of them prefer to keep their opinions and experiences to themselves. In light of this, it is quite remarkable that the tribal leaders consented to allow the conference on their land, perhaps one of the real ground-zero locations for strange goings-on for the last 40 years, and perhaps longer.
Special thanks are due to Norio Hayakawa, who took the time and incredible effort to put together this one-of-a-kind gathering, and of course the Jicarilla Apache tribe.
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Mar 29 2009 
April 1st, 2009 at 1:13 am
I think it was March 29 on coasttocoast “John Rhodes” or reptoids.com was the guest, speaking on underground alien bases. I actually had to turn off the program because he had no details (but was asked if the reptoids had tails and responded that yes sometimes). So I just went to his website and there’s an interesting article about an engineering discovering a secret city under L.A. which houses aliens (of course).
I saw KNOWING yesterday which was also plugged on coasttocoast — a must-see for the alien movie genre (as subversive evangelical apocalypse). I found myself snickering (laughing through the nose) at in appropriate times.
April 1st, 2009 at 3:12 am
It seems to me that if I wanted to create plausible deniability to hide my secret of black projects, the first place I’m going look for is a place with a long history of strange happenings. Places like Dulce, the Burmuda Triangle or the LA Underground are perfect places to hide using the legends that already surrounded them.
April 1st, 2009 at 3:57 am
AT LAST!!!
The awful abduction of UFOMystic has ended.
I hope the poor blog wasn’t anally probed too much
April 1st, 2009 at 6:50 am
I was beginning to worry, but its a given that no Grey in its right(?) mind would try to abduct Greg and Nick.
“Probe THIS, you Cosmic skinheads!”
Glad the conference went well, Greg.
April 1st, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Drew,
Do you know who broke that L.A. lizard story way back in 1988? MIKE MARINACCI, in his book Mysterious California. He is a friend now and was co-author with me on Weird California. No credit was given, I suspect.
April 1st, 2009 at 12:20 pm
Crg,
I never thought of it that way, although now it seems obvious!
April 1st, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Craig,
Thanks. It was more fun than I expected, but then I never know what to expect.
April 2nd, 2009 at 1:48 am
Both Native Americans and much later Euro-Americans settlers found much of the Southwest deserts to be an even more frightening place than the Plains or deep Forests of the Eastern half of what is now the US. Very unforgiving environment with real dangers like grizzly bear, mountain lion and jaguar well into the last century. Throw in some unpredictable weather and even the most jaded of ‘modern humans’ will get unnerved. Most of the area is still uninhabited and difficult to access. As anomalists, are we really surprised by the reports of Bigfoot, UFO’s or skinwalkers coming out of an area that’s still alien to most of humanity?
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:45 am
It was great seeing you Greg, I only wish I wasn’t so busy lining up & conducting interviews. I was glad I was able to at least catch the last half of your talk. I must admit, I was a little miffed at Norio for not allocating the same amount of time for my presentation that you other folks got. Being the the most local investigator of the bunch it didn’t make much sense to me, but it wasn’t my event, so I didn’t dog Norio about it. I don’t remember if you were in the room during my talk, so here’s a thumbnail sketch:
I started out by saying “hello, what’s happening” in Dine’ (Tan jo, yata hey) then set off on a whirlwind overview of the evolution of the Dulce Myth—In order: Project Gasbuggy, Gomez mutes ‘76-80, mute investigators that worlked w/ Gabe Valdez, the Bennowitz case, Tom Costello disinfo, Myrna Hanson, ChristaTilton, TAL, Branton disinfo, Phil Schneider disinfo etc.
Then I recounted the Jicarilla emergence myth which talks about Blanca Pk (?) in the SLV and I pointed out that there seemed to be a connection between the SLV (45 miles away to the NW) and Dulce in myth and legend. I acknowledged that there was true paranormal phenomena happening on the rez, but that it had nothing to do with any Dulce “base.” While there in Dulce, I found out there have been “over 100″ sightings of bigfoot and curiously, many sightings of strange 2′ tall hairy dwarfs—even in the Casino parking lot! I was told that these entities have been seen “by everyone around here”. More on my investigation later…
I then theorized that the SLV activity may be where the real action is located and that Dulce (location of a portal of some sort) is a red-herring to divert attention from underground subjects in the SLV.
I also mentioned the need to look more closely at unusually-high cancer rates in Rio Arriba County and on the rez —that this may be due to environmental radiation. I had been told by a miner years ago (a verified source) who claimed he helped expand the Los Alamos tunnels and start a “tunnel to Dulce,” that he thought there was an “underground weapons storage facility” in the Dulce area. Hoyt and then Greg mentioned that there was an underground base in the area but that it was under MOUNT Archuleta, 18 miles west of town, NOT Archuleta Mesa, just north of town.
Then, the going got weird and the weird had to turn pro, FAST. At the :20 min mark Norio started edging toward me to cut me off, so I playfully edged away the same amount of distance. This happened 3 or 4 times as I hastily finished up my talk casting sideways glances. When he finally got to the center of the stage area, I starting teasing him with the mike and ended up doing a mic behind the back James Brown shuffle before I would relinquish the mic. I felt sorta like Rodney Dangerfield swimming in chopped liver, I tell ya! Thank god I only told two people from the SLV that I was going to be there—the gathering narrowly escaped becoming a SRO+ disaster. People from Albuquerque were turned away and had to leave and they weren’t happy about it.
There has been a lot going on in “little basket’s” country and (as I suspected,) none of it appears to involve garden variety “ETs.” I will post a more detailed report later.
April 2nd, 2009 at 5:38 am
Damn!! I wish I had been able to attend!!
April 3rd, 2009 at 5:40 am
Chris,
I was sitting next to you the whole time before you spoke, and I was there for your talk too. I didn’t take any notes, and that shows!
You’re obviously a local and it’s strange that you didn’t get more time to describe your research.
The hairy dwarves! I forgot about that! Were you able to find the video?
April 3rd, 2009 at 8:10 pm
Not specifically, but one local told me that there are quite a number of “X-Files” that have been buried by local authorities. Word is they won’t even acknowledge certain weirdness reports even exist etc. I mentioned the footage to Hoyt and he seemed to know what I was talking about but ended the conversation with, “Yeah, I wonder whatever happened to it.” He ducked my followup question when I asked him to describe what was videotaped. Another Dulce myth to dig up, I suppose…
April 9th, 2009 at 7:53 am
After seeing one of these creatures it isn’t difficult to be a believer. Them being linked with the ufo phenomina isn’t that much harder to believe then the human race being linked to the same. The sasquatch appears to in some ways have the same abilities as the men in black, bad smell for one. In my opinion they appear to have more of a link to the reptoids that many fear to even mention in the alien connection. The sasquatch’s skull is morely shaped like the reptoid then the human’s skull. The grey’s appear to me to be abductted fetus’s from human women, grown and developed and controlled by the reptoids as the pink monkeys and the sasquatch have been harder to control. The sasquatch may appear when ufo’s are in the area cause they know their true lineage and many of the pink monkeys just want to kill their half brothers. My opinion may stink; but, so does the opinion that they have spirit and no body.
April 9th, 2009 at 7:57 am
The above statement was for the April 9th/09 regarding sasquatch…sorry.