Ray Stanford On Radio Misterioso Sunday
Ray Stanford
(Photo by Jacquelyn Martin, AP)
A few years ago, Chris (Mysterious Valley) O’Brien put me in touch with a UFO personality who’s been around since nearly the beginning. Ray Stanford’s involvement in the subject stretches back to the mid 1950s, when he and his twin brother Rex, (now a doctoral psychologist with an extensive involvement in the study of parapsycholgy) entered the field with a fascination for the UFO contactee movement. Both were barely out of their teens in 1958 when they wrote Look Up, an account of their own sightings and theories at the time.
As one of the principal NICAP investigators into the 1966 Socorro incident, Ray Stanford documented his run-ins with the U.S. government in his 1975 book A Socorro “Saucer” In A Pentagon Pantry. In the early 1970s, he was co-founder of The Association For The Understanding of Man, which used both scientific and psychic methods to probe the mystery of UFOs and other anomalous phenomena, and in 1973 tested Uri Geller’s abilities.
In the mid 1970s, his UFO hunting study, Project Starlight, used photography, magnetometers, and lasers in an attempt to locate, document, and possibly communicate with the UFO phenomenon. We’ll talk about his findings while running the project.
Stanford has also made his mark as an amateur paleontologist, with the discovery of hundreds of dinosaur fossils and fossil tracks to his credit. He has even attracted the attention of the Smithsonian Institution to display his extensive collection.
We’ll be talking about these subjects and a few others on Sunday the 18th from 8-10PM PST on Radio Misterioso at killradio.org. The show is also simulcast by our friends at Anomaly Radio. This is a rare chance to listen to a man whose experience spans much of the 20th century’s history of UFOs and the unknown.
UPDATE (1/18/09 7PM): The killradio site has been hacked and is not appearing as usual, but you can click on the still visible “Listen” link and get the stream, or use this link.
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Jan 17 2009 
January 18th, 2009 at 2:30 am
Glad to see his brother emphasizes gender. Maybe he’s made the vagus nerve discovery, like Reich did. It connects to the reptilian pineal gland so we can fly through space which is a moebius curve, closing in on that which has no ending. The flying lotus of the Cosmic Mother shall never be unveiled.
January 18th, 2009 at 7:07 am
Hey Greg, have you seen this ufo/alien footage before. I’m almost positive it’s a fake but still kinda cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rzt2taM2Qc&feature=PlayList&p=9F47A847D785B213&index=6
January 18th, 2009 at 12:40 pm
Ben,
It is cool. It is certainly a fake, at least I’m 99.9% sure of it.
January 20th, 2009 at 11:27 am
It was a very interesting interview. I’m curious if he really can back up some his claims about the CIA’s funding of the various UFO research groups with documentation. Or is he the real disinfo agent?
January 20th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Will this be in podcast form soon?
January 20th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Ignore the above comment. I see its already on radiomisterioso.com
January 21st, 2009 at 4:26 am
I just finished listening to it. The part about Adamski was hilarious. And the ‘confirmation’ of Truman Bethurun contact was also really interesting.
Where can one find Ray’s thoughts an writings on the Internet?
Plus, am I wrong or the audio file ends kind of abruptly?
Anyway, great show, and I hope you get another chance interviewing him, because he sure has a lot of info and cool stories to tell.
January 21st, 2009 at 4:35 am
RPJ,
Yes, the audio ends abruptly because the automatic recorder cut off an hour and a half into the 2 1/2 hour interview. I don’t know why, and it’s never happened before! I apologized for it in the write up at the Radio Misterioso site. He’ll be on again.
January 21st, 2009 at 6:13 am
“I don’t know why, and it’s never happened before!”
…You were discussing MIBs, weren’t ya?
I’m glad he’ll be back. Be sure to ask him about the Fatima apparitions and the other info he got through channeling, please.
January 21st, 2009 at 10:47 am
Great interview, shame it got cut-off.
Ive never heard of Ray before, what the general consensus on credibility? I only ask that because he was making some fairly extreme claims about sightings, psychic stuff and documented evidence.
Speaking of evidence, Greg did you get a chance to ask if any of his ‘flying saucer’ videos are online?
Ray had some fascinating stories too, although I couldnt help but think that the one about his friend who got abducted and then his car was dropped onto the rocks, might have been a case of his friend covering for himself after an accident.
The story about the artist making the medallion for the ‘out of this world’ girl was fascinating.
January 22nd, 2009 at 10:28 am
From what I know of him, (relatively little) Stanford seems to be a fascinating guy. Thanks very much for getting him on tape and please have him back to talk more about Project Starlight.
I’ve seen Chris O’Brien’s summary about Stanford’s presentations with all his footage so I was wondering if the truncated audio contained you asking him where is this stuff, when is it going to be made available to the public, etc.
On one hand it seems they were pretty serious about instrumented research and on the other there is like a black hole of disinterest about Stanford from the ufo community as far as I can tell. There are a few docs on NICAP’s site and his Socorro book but not much else.
What gives?
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
RPJ,
We were discussing his work on Project Starlight when the recording choked. I’ll record it live with a CD recorder as well next time.
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Gareth,
I don’t know what the consensus is. Since he is not a classically trained scientist, I don’t think those who are take him seriously, and he doesn’t have a following in the UFO community for perhaps the same reason. I prefer to reserve judgment and simply listen.
If nothing else, he is a repository of UFO history from one who was there. That in itself makes getting his thoughts and memories down in an interview important to me.
We did talk about the release of his films and videos. He doesn’t want to do it until they are presented in an official format, whether that be as part of a formal paper or complete program is up to Ray.
January 22nd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
not anon,
I think I answered your questions in my reply to Gareth.