Dark Energy: Light and Gravity
The problem seems to begin with Einstein’s E = mcc; from this justly famous equation it seems everyone assumed, including Einstein, that light has mass and …
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Let me also be a little more clear here by correcting my error of omission from my last post regarding Reich — Reich never mentions the Roswell *incident* in his book, CONTACT FROM SPACE. Your quote from Reich is a butchered quote, so let us resort the quote to it’s entirety and find out what the rest of the story is…

“Although it was very hot as we neared Roswell, New Mexico, no OR flow was visible on the road, which should have been shimmering with ‘heat-waves’. Instead, DOR was well marked to the west against purplish, black, barren mountains, in the sky as a blinding grayness, and over the horizon as a grayish layer. The caking of formerly good soil was progressively characteristic and eventually caked soil prevailed over the vegetation, which now consisted only of scattered low brushes, while grass disappeared”

Clearly that quote in no way, shape, or form supports any of your claims, in fact it proves that although you can quote from a book, it does not prove you have the book, have read the book, or that you understand the book. Reich makes no mention of the Roswell incident as he passes through Roswell on his way to Tucson to study DOR and OR (orgone energy), all the while he deludes himself into believing that UFOs were randomly appearing all along his route and all of which happened to be using DOR for evil purposes. See http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/ciencia/ciencia_reich01.htm

Once again, even if we were to pretend you were correct, we are back to problem that it is only one lonely person and it wasn’t given much attention by the public or anyone else who was supposedly there in Roswell in 1947. One person in ten years? So what!

Just because Gleason and Nixon were buddies and were photographed together, does not prove or disprove anything. You only resort to hearsay and rumor as your “evidence”, but the fact remains that neither man ever went on record as believing in the Roswell incidence, or that they ever saw the Roswell aliens. Even the rumor that they did, surfaced many long and quiet years after the Roswell incident.

Before you can “rehash the facts”, you first have to learn what one is. The only source for your information so far has been your word on it your word is not evidence, it is assertion, and proof by assertion is a logical fallacy.

Or read Contact With Space, which Reich published in 1956, almost a decade after the crash (and I am looking at right now as I type), especially the part that begins “Although it was very hot as we neared Roswell…”, just under a sketch of the area. Or don’t–just follow the non-Sage’s link to SPACE.com. What the hay, that kind of research is good enough for him.

Secret and Suppressed II also has a photo of Nixon and Gleason caddying around in Palm Springs, where longstanding lore says Eisenhower–under whom Nixon served as VP–saw the aliens as well. Friedman must have gotten to the people who started that scurrilous rumor as well.

I can’t spend a lot of time rehashing this with someone who, again, doesn’t let the facts get in the way of a homily on high school astrophysics. My foot is more firmly planted on the ground on this than his, though. His, in fact, has worked itself up already to his mouth.

OK a couple corrections as well — the whole Einstein is God schtick has got to stop. The man was wrong about one thing — claiming light has mass. Light has momentum — not mass. A fine but crucial detail that covers up a butt-load of some serious logic.

Which leads me to my favorite UFOlogical statement: Violation of logic does not prove causality — J. Allen Hynek.

I like to twist that statement around — UFOs rely on logic — or the violation of Western scientific logic — which thereby DOES prove their existence.

Tesla argued there was some sort of ether based on sound — longitudinal waves — as a sort of pressure (a plasma ion of electrogravitic yadda yadda). Still that doesn’t mean his, and the subsequent HAARP CIA e.l.f. mind control technology, is going to save the planet. Neither will nukes stop global warming (despite Obama being OWNED by Exelon, the now largest nuke company in the world)… nor will nukes enable humanoids aka nanobiomotors to colonize the universe, helping it to evolve.

No, the fact is, all this tritium and uranium leaking into the air and water, etc., (with the meltdown here and there) is only verifying J. Allen Hynek’s great motto about UFOlogy (and science in general).

This post is dedicated to Professor H.M. Collins and I look forward to his new book about the flawed mathematics of gravity waves.

As for Wilhelm Reich and his CONTACT WITH SPACE, clearly you have never read it. It does not mention Roswell, is not about Roswell, and it happened around the time of Roswell, and not long after Roswell (see http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/reich_816.html). Before trying to cut down other people because you think they don’t have all the facts, get your own facts straight first, otherwise you might wind up with your foot in your mouth.

The fact still remains, Roswell incident DID die down within months of it occurring, the question is, why?

There is no technology capable of getting to even the nearest star without massive amounts of fuel, and as we all know, fuel is money. For example, it would take approximately 137 tons of fuel to launch a 100 ton payload to Mars and back using Nuclear Propulsion, at a cost of at least $1,300,000,000 dollars (ref http://www.astrodigital.org/space/nuclear.html). This cost will only go up with time, as history has relentlessly demonstrated — and if we cannot afford it now, how will we ever possibly afford it in the future?

Yet we are not talking about a one time 100 ton payload here, we are talking about establishing trade routes between all kinds of other star systems, just like our imaginary UFO buddies do. It clearly is just not practical for us to do that because we cannot afford to do that. Technology is irrelevant. Even if we pretend that we could someday afford to do that, that would assume that we didn’t destroy ourselves or the Earth before that could happen, and that isn’t likely to happen, considering our propensity to waste our resources on prolonging a war fought for nothing more then an Ice Cream truck being mistaken by our wonderful Intelligence community for a make believe “mobile nuclear biological warfare factory” or some such nonsense.

All of this is off topic though. The point is that Roswell that there is no evidence that Roswell ever happened as Marcel says it did, so speculating on how someone or something got here when we don’t even have proof they got here, is pointless meandering. Even if we could prove that Roswell happened as Marcel pretends it did, it still wouldn’t prove that regular space travel is possible, afterall, it could have been a one way trip.

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