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		<title>By: reganlee</title>
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		<dc:creator>reganlee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This book is now at the top of my very long list. Can't wait. . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This book is now at the top of my very long list. Can&#8217;t wait. . .</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/08/05/ufos-the-paranormal-and-multi-dimensions/#comment-6433</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just finished Imbrogno's book a week ago and it is amazing. I, too, couldn't put it down. His quotes from Hynek are very revealing, and his account of his first big paranormal investigation is as creepy as they come! Highly recommended.

Many of his conclusions on the hyperdimensional nature of UFOs and paranormal phenomena are strikingly similar to those reached by Laura Knight-Jadczyk in her book High Strangeness: Hyperdimensions and the Process of Alien Abduction. Greg, you can email Red Pill Press (www.redpillpress.com), for a review copy of the new edition, if you're interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just finished Imbrogno&#8217;s book a week ago and it is amazing. I, too, couldn&#8217;t put it down. His quotes from Hynek are very revealing, and his account of his first big paranormal investigation is as creepy as they come! Highly recommended.</p>
<p>Many of his conclusions on the hyperdimensional nature of UFOs and paranormal phenomena are strikingly similar to those reached by Laura Knight-Jadczyk in her book High Strangeness: Hyperdimensions and the Process of Alien Abduction. Greg, you can email Red Pill Press (www.redpillpress.com), for a review copy of the new edition, if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 00:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>euphemystic,

I heard about this a couple of days ago. The coverup supposedly involves withholding an announcement that life is possible on Mars, not that any has been found. That could be a coverup too, and there are martians cavorting about in pictures that we will never see.

P.S. Of course I seriously doubt this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>euphemystic,</p>
<p>I heard about this a couple of days ago. The coverup supposedly involves withholding an announcement that life is possible on Mars, not that any has been found. That could be a coverup too, and there are martians cavorting about in pictures that we will never see.</p>
<p>P.S. Of course I seriously doubt this.</p>
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		<title>By: euphemystic</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/08/05/ufos-the-paranormal-and-multi-dimensions/#comment-6430</link>
		<dc:creator>euphemystic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 23:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to barge in on this, but check out the August 01, Aviation Week article by Craig Covault.  Something fishy going on at NASA and the White House re some phoenix lander results that have been withheld.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to barge in on this, but check out the August 01, Aviation Week article by Craig Covault.  Something fishy going on at NASA and the White House re some phoenix lander results that have been withheld.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/08/05/ufos-the-paranormal-and-multi-dimensions/#comment-6427</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes here's math Professor Ian Stewart in an April 2008 letter to New Scientist:

"Mathematically, the main circumstances in which probabilities can be derived from deeper assumptions, rather than simply assumed, is as 'invariant measures' - averages that respect the dynamic behaviour - for a deterministic but chaotic system. It would be surprising if quantum theory did not possess an underlying determinism: in its absence, the system would not 'know' what the probability of doing something ought to be."

So "who" actually knows the mathematical averages?  Sounds like Freemasonry to me! haha.  The concept of "mathematical averages" is a cultural construct.  In contrast for 90% of human history (the Bushmen-Pygmy culture) number ratios were based not on averages but on complementary opposites.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes here&#8217;s math Professor Ian Stewart in an April 2008 letter to New Scientist:</p>
<p>&#8220;Mathematically, the main circumstances in which probabilities can be derived from deeper assumptions, rather than simply assumed, is as &#8216;invariant measures&#8217; - averages that respect the dynamic behaviour - for a deterministic but chaotic system. It would be surprising if quantum theory did not possess an underlying determinism: in its absence, the system would not &#8216;know&#8217; what the probability of doing something ought to be.&#8221;</p>
<p>So &#8220;who&#8221; actually knows the mathematical averages?  Sounds like Freemasonry to me! haha.  The concept of &#8220;mathematical averages&#8221; is a cultural construct.  In contrast for 90% of human history (the Bushmen-Pygmy culture) number ratios were based not on averages but on complementary opposites.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,

At some point, ideas may reach an asymptote where "irrational" beliefs and scientific proof coincide. Maybe that's what the Aviary tricksters were talking about when they said the the aliens "worship the Universe as a supreme being" on the &lt;em&gt;UFO Coverup Live&lt;/em&gt; program in 1988.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>At some point, ideas may reach an asymptote where &#8220;irrational&#8221; beliefs and scientific proof coincide. Maybe that&#8217;s what the Aviary tricksters were talking about when they said the the aliens &#8220;worship the Universe as a supreme being&#8221; on the <em>UFO Coverup Live</em> program in 1988.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NightFlight,

I purposely picked out a more digestible  passage form Imbrogno's article so that readers would be interested to read more.

When I interviewed Dr. Dean Radin in 1995 or 6, he told me that he believed a revolution in thought should come from the bottom up on a popular level as well as from the academia/ research communities.

Thanks for the compliments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NightFlight,</p>
<p>I purposely picked out a more digestible  passage form Imbrogno&#8217;s article so that readers would be interested to read more.</p>
<p>When I interviewed Dr. Dean Radin in 1995 or 6, he told me that he believed a revolution in thought should come from the bottom up on a popular level as well as from the academia/ research communities.</p>
<p>Thanks for the compliments!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 19:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PSIborG,

The concepts and definitions of "rationale" and "logic" are probably changing, and they should. When our concepts change, the reality we live in changes too. I'm glad Imbrogno is contributing to this in a positive, popular way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PSIborG,</p>
<p>The concepts and definitions of &#8220;rationale&#8221; and &#8220;logic&#8221; are probably changing, and they should. When our concepts change, the reality we live in changes too. I&#8217;m glad Imbrogno is contributing to this in a positive, popular way.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me very much of the book I was reading last night -- "The Collapse of Chaos:  Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World" by math professor Ian Stewart and biologist Jack Cohen.

They focus on the example of the "Ampullae of Lorenzini" which is found in sharks, paddlefish, saw-fish, etc. and not only enables what science calls "quantum telepathy" but also gives navigation in relation to the Earth's magnetic field.

The neuron signals respond to small differences in voltage based on the outer sheath as a good insulator and the inner "jelly" as a good conductor. (Very Reichian!)

"Sharks can feel the electrical activity of other creatures' nerves." (p. 163)  I can do this as well.

Considering Imbrogno's previous book was on the black triangles of Hudson Valley -- this is an issue dear to my heart, as I had a VERY CLOSE encounter with a black triangle, in the summer of 1997.

All the evidence, IMHO, points to "asymmetrical capacitors" which means that the voltage difference is increased between the front and back of an object by pumping an ionized plasma through the object.  This is true for animals, be they yogins in full-lotus or sharks, or for these black triangles.

The same two authors' most recent book is "Evolving the Alien" about which I corresponded with professor Ian Stewart.  Soon afterwards he published a letter in the journal Nature applying to the specific content of our exchange.  Stewart wrote that while natural paranormal abilities do not exist they will exist in the future when quantum computing creates good enough "q-bits."  

I took this as a religious prophecy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me very much of the book I was reading last night &#8212; &#8220;The Collapse of Chaos:  Discovering Simplicity in a Complex World&#8221; by math professor Ian Stewart and biologist Jack Cohen.</p>
<p>They focus on the example of the &#8220;Ampullae of Lorenzini&#8221; which is found in sharks, paddlefish, saw-fish, etc. and not only enables what science calls &#8220;quantum telepathy&#8221; but also gives navigation in relation to the Earth&#8217;s magnetic field.</p>
<p>The neuron signals respond to small differences in voltage based on the outer sheath as a good insulator and the inner &#8220;jelly&#8221; as a good conductor. (Very Reichian!)</p>
<p>&#8220;Sharks can feel the electrical activity of other creatures&#8217; nerves.&#8221; (p. 163)  I can do this as well.</p>
<p>Considering Imbrogno&#8217;s previous book was on the black triangles of Hudson Valley &#8212; this is an issue dear to my heart, as I had a VERY CLOSE encounter with a black triangle, in the summer of 1997.</p>
<p>All the evidence, IMHO, points to &#8220;asymmetrical capacitors&#8221; which means that the voltage difference is increased between the front and back of an object by pumping an ionized plasma through the object.  This is true for animals, be they yogins in full-lotus or sharks, or for these black triangles.</p>
<p>The same two authors&#8217; most recent book is &#8220;Evolving the Alien&#8221; about which I corresponded with professor Ian Stewart.  Soon afterwards he published a letter in the journal Nature applying to the specific content of our exchange.  Stewart wrote that while natural paranormal abilities do not exist they will exist in the future when quantum computing creates good enough &#8220;q-bits.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I took this as a religious prophecy.</p>
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		<title>By: NightFlight</title>
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		<dc:creator>NightFlight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 16:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talk about a "eureka" moment, while reading PSIborG's response, it hit me. Mainstream media and the gov't doesn't want us, the UFO/paranormal group to "believe" in what we are discussing because it's not the subject we are discussing, analyzing, digesting, but the mere fact we are discussing, interacting and interfacing with our community as a whole, and doing it not by their guidelines (or supposed guidelines) but on OUR terms. Thats where the Klass/Nickell monkey wrench is thrown at us and the debunkers get more time attacking us in general than we have to present the facts of whatever's being attacked by the media. Lately, though it seems the media just ignores us and these events. I think that Mr. Imbrogno's new book will further this hypothesis I have, as well as other books and movies and videos that have been presented to the public at large and to be presented. We make people think and in the gov't's view, thats bad. I could go on and on about the dumbing down of the schools in present times and how it seems to me that acedemia has been replaced with sports and sports "hero" worship. No critical thinking, there! Science students get about 30 seconds of sarcasm on the news and sports figures get hours and thats just wrong! Mr. Imbrogno is right. The gov't, media, church, etc. cannot control us with superstition and rumor anymore. The truth is out.

This site is awesome and the collective IQ is probably 200 times all the participants. Might even be a cure for alzheimers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about a &#8220;eureka&#8221; moment, while reading PSIborG&#8217;s response, it hit me. Mainstream media and the gov&#8217;t doesn&#8217;t want us, the UFO/paranormal group to &#8220;believe&#8221; in what we are discussing because it&#8217;s not the subject we are discussing, analyzing, digesting, but the mere fact we are discussing, interacting and interfacing with our community as a whole, and doing it not by their guidelines (or supposed guidelines) but on OUR terms. Thats where the Klass/Nickell monkey wrench is thrown at us and the debunkers get more time attacking us in general than we have to present the facts of whatever&#8217;s being attacked by the media. Lately, though it seems the media just ignores us and these events. I think that Mr. Imbrogno&#8217;s new book will further this hypothesis I have, as well as other books and movies and videos that have been presented to the public at large and to be presented. We make people think and in the gov&#8217;t&#8217;s view, thats bad. I could go on and on about the dumbing down of the schools in present times and how it seems to me that acedemia has been replaced with sports and sports &#8220;hero&#8221; worship. No critical thinking, there! Science students get about 30 seconds of sarcasm on the news and sports figures get hours and thats just wrong! Mr. Imbrogno is right. The gov&#8217;t, media, church, etc. cannot control us with superstition and rumor anymore. The truth is out.</p>
<p>This site is awesome and the collective IQ is probably 200 times all the participants. Might even be a cure for alzheimers.</p>
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