Comments on: UFOs and Earthquake Lights http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/ UFO News, Views, and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 09:14:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: crgintx http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6402 crgintx Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:07:08 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6402 Greg, I can't find it but I remember it being on the Discovery/The Learning Channel from 97-99 time frame. This was when I had satellite TV. I gave it up for a computer and the internet. I'll keep an out for it. Greg, I can’t find it but I remember it being on the Discovery/The Learning Channel from 97-99 time frame. This was when I had satellite TV. I gave it up for a computer and the internet. I’ll keep an out for it.

]]> By: drew hempel http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6389 drew hempel Sat, 02 Aug 2008 04:40:30 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6389 I corresponded with Persinger about my "actual Matrix Plan" expose and he commented that he was actually keen on Puharich's brilliant (but very scary) book, "BEYOND TELEPATHY." Persinger knew Puharich fairly well I guess. Puharich sort of extends Persinger's theory with Puharich's "psi-plasma vortex" as a spirit channeling paranormal model (it's using Dirac's quantum relativity). So Puharich relied on ELF waves in line with the earth-ionosphere resonance a la Tesla -- I guess he was selling some sort of ELF protector watch or something in his final days. ELF being the alpha-theta (dream) state of brain consciousness and the focus of Project HAARP which could create earthquakes possible (or hurricanes, etc.) I corresponded with Persinger about my “actual Matrix Plan” expose and he commented that he was actually keen on Puharich’s brilliant (but very scary) book, “BEYOND TELEPATHY.” Persinger knew Puharich fairly well I guess. Puharich sort of extends Persinger’s theory with Puharich’s “psi-plasma vortex” as a spirit channeling paranormal model (it’s using Dirac’s quantum relativity). So Puharich relied on ELF waves in line with the earth-ionosphere resonance a la Tesla — I guess he was selling some sort of ELF protector watch or something in his final days. ELF being the alpha-theta (dream) state of brain consciousness and the focus of Project HAARP which could create earthquakes possible (or hurricanes, etc.)

]]> By: Greg Bishop http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6382 Greg Bishop Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:42:10 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6382 Dick, Good news. Now someone else has to replicate the experiment and make sure that they are using the exact same equipment, field strengths, etc. THe article seems balanced enough. I'm also glad that the article mentioned the work of Wilder Penfield, who stimulated areas of the frontal lobes directly with electric current and got similar results to Persinger. Dick,

Good news. Now someone else has to replicate the experiment and make sure that they are using the exact same equipment, field strengths, etc. THe article seems balanced enough.

I’m also glad that the article mentioned the work of Wilder Penfield, who stimulated areas of the frontal lobes directly with electric current and got similar results to Persinger.

]]> By: Greg Bishop http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6381 Greg Bishop Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:38:41 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6381 Euphemystic, I've read and written about "ghost" and other unexplained lights. Once I spent a night watching Orriflame mountain in Anza Borrego State Park was described by prospectors in the 19th century, but I didn't see anything, dammit. Euphemystic,

I’ve read and written about “ghost” and other unexplained lights. Once I spent a night watching Orriflame mountain in Anza Borrego State Park was described by prospectors in the 19th century, but I didn’t see anything, dammit.

]]> By: Greg Bishop http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6380 Greg Bishop Fri, 01 Aug 2008 19:25:21 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6380 crg, I didn't know about that experiment recording the sky. Can we read about it anywhere online? crg,

I didn’t know about that experiment recording the sky. Can we read about it anywhere online?

]]> By: Roger Knights http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6379 Roger Knights Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:35:43 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6379 Here are two more books that deal with earthlights: <i>In the Big Thicket,</i> by Rob Riggs. Primarily Ch. 2. <i>Examining the Earthlight Theory: The Yakima UFO Microcosm,</i> by Greg Long. See especially pages 89, 97-102, and 116-18. He finds the Persinger Tectonic Strain Theory badly wanting. Here are two more books that deal with earthlights:

In the Big Thicket, by Rob Riggs. Primarily Ch. 2.

Examining the Earthlight Theory: The Yakima UFO Microcosm, by Greg Long. See especially pages 89, 97-102, and 116-18. He finds the Persinger Tectonic Strain Theory badly wanting.

]]> By: Dick http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6369 Dick Thu, 31 Jul 2008 08:02:52 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6369 From Will Storr Vs. The Supernatural: "Soon after this, I found out that scientists in Sweden have been trying to replicate Persinger's experiments - except, this time, the helmet-wearers were not warned that they were going to be exposed to magnetic fields. When the Swedes followed this all-important 'double blind protocol,' they concluded that magnetism has no discernible effect at all." Of course, "some scientists in Sweden" is maddeningly vague, isn't it? To be more exact, the Swedish scientist is Pehr Granqvist and his team of researchers at Uppsala University in Sweden. You can find the story here: http://www.mindpowernews.com/GodInLab.htm From Will Storr Vs. The Supernatural:

“Soon after this, I found out that scientists in Sweden have been trying to replicate Persinger’s experiments - except, this time, the helmet-wearers were not warned that they were going to be exposed to magnetic fields. When the Swedes followed this all-important ‘double blind protocol,’ they concluded that magnetism has no discernible effect at all.”

Of course, “some scientists in Sweden” is maddeningly vague, isn’t it?

To be more exact, the Swedish scientist is Pehr Granqvist and his team of researchers at Uppsala University in Sweden.

You can find the story here:

http://www.mindpowernews.com/GodInLab.htm

]]> By: euphemystic http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6368 euphemystic Thu, 31 Jul 2008 06:56:00 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6368 I've seen lots of flashes in the mountains where I live, as have others. They might be light, or an electromagnetic effect that bypasses the optic nerve, and they're not that uncommon. But nothing like UFO's although I once saw one that was very bright and right in front of me. You'd think someone would be studying it though, then again, it can take a long time to latch on to a new idea even if it isn't that new. I’ve seen lots of flashes in the mountains where I live, as have others. They might be light, or an electromagnetic effect that bypasses the optic nerve, and they’re not that uncommon. But nothing like UFO’s although I once saw one that was very bright and right in front of me. You’d think someone would be studying it though, then again, it can take a long time to latch on to a new idea even if it isn’t that new.

]]> By: crgintx http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/30/ufos-and-earthquake-lights/#comment-6365 crgintx Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:53:42 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/?p=1418#comment-6365 This is a perfect example of why their should be a more rigorous study of unexplained aerial phenomena. Many of these ghost or earth lights are well known and frequent like the Brown Mountain lights in NC or the Marfa Lights in Texas. I remember a video expose in the 90's where a researcher simply turned several cameras on the sky for 24/7 for several days in an urban US city. He recorded dozens of unidentified aerial phenomena most of them during the day. Given the advances in imaging technology especially in the infrared and other invisible light spectrum frequencies, the amount of hard scientific data could revolutionize the study of the phenomena as well meteorology. The Iraqi UAP videos posted in Jan that was recorded with night vision equipment was a perfect example of UAP that could recorded and cataloged. This is a perfect example of why their should be a more rigorous study of unexplained aerial phenomena. Many of these ghost or earth lights are well known and frequent like the Brown Mountain lights in NC or the Marfa Lights in Texas. I remember a video expose in the 90’s where a researcher simply turned several cameras on the sky for 24/7 for several days in an urban US city. He recorded dozens of unidentified aerial phenomena most of them during the day. Given the advances in imaging technology especially in the infrared and other invisible light spectrum frequencies, the amount of hard scientific data could revolutionize the study of the phenomena as well meteorology. The Iraqi UAP videos posted in Jan that was recorded with night vision equipment was a perfect example of UAP that could recorded and cataloged.

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