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		<title>By: TemplarScribe</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 21:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you want to something to be scared of, eh? Try this:

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that there is some dastardly plot supported by the NASA intelligensia. Let's also agree that there's no way under our single sun for any normal probe to instigate the birth of a sun from Jupiter, Saturn, or any other planet.

But what if...

What if the fissile material, U-238, a highly toxic material, was spread over a vast planetary area by atmospheric compression, heating and explosion? That possibility seemed likely enough to spark strong worldwide opposition to, most recently, the New Horizons launch(es) to Pluto and other sites, including the Moon and Mars. 

What if the "evil plot" at NASA wasn't to ignite a new sun, but was instead an attempt to pollute any potential breeding ground for life on other worlds, starting with Jupiter's and Saturn's moons, and moving on from there?

Of course, twenty-some-odd pounds of U-238 and -239 wouldn't do much damage long term to any planet. But it could provide the tipping point in an argument on whether humans could be entrusted with off-world technology. Such an argument -- among technologically advanced alien races -- has been suggested before as the reason behind the possible denial of our probes to Mars, including ten Russian probes in a row that failed to reach their planned locations. 

(BTW: A hilarious Earth-vs-Mars play by play can be found at http://www.bio.aps.anl.gov/~dgore/fun/PSL/marsscorecard.html . As of 2000, the score was Mars 20, Earth 13, with Earth's heavy hitters just coming to the plate).

The most bizarre failure was that of Fobos-2, whose onboard telemetry suggested it had been shot out of the sky by something oval-shaped coming from the surface of Mars! (Read more at http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/fobos_mystery_000630.html) Although the strange oval-looking object that appeared to be heading toward the craft has since been explained away by one scientist as a poor resolution image of the nearby moon Phobos. But the seeds of conspiracy, once sown, grow deep.

The blossoming fable thus unfolding it this: that some rogue elements of NASA are attempting to poison the fertile regions of our solar system, in order to bring some form of alien retaliation down on us. To what end? Why, to put the Earth and humanity in such a bad state that our "protector" must come to our rescue.

Which protector? Why, the great Jesu Christé himself, the returning Messiah, come to fight in the skies against the evil ones, just as Revelations says.

Yeah, I know, sounds like some wild-eyed Hollywood plot.

If only...

TemplarScribe
http://www.MichaelDelving.com
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you want to something to be scared of, eh? Try this:</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s assume, for the sake of argument, that there is some dastardly plot supported by the NASA intelligensia. Let&#8217;s also agree that there&#8217;s no way under our single sun for any normal probe to instigate the birth of a sun from Jupiter, Saturn, or any other planet.</p>
<p>But what if&#8230;</p>
<p>What if the fissile material, U-238, a highly toxic material, was spread over a vast planetary area by atmospheric compression, heating and explosion? That possibility seemed likely enough to spark strong worldwide opposition to, most recently, the New Horizons launch(es) to Pluto and other sites, including the Moon and Mars. </p>
<p>What if the &#8220;evil plot&#8221; at NASA wasn&#8217;t to ignite a new sun, but was instead an attempt to pollute any potential breeding ground for life on other worlds, starting with Jupiter&#8217;s and Saturn&#8217;s moons, and moving on from there?</p>
<p>Of course, twenty-some-odd pounds of U-238 and -239 wouldn&#8217;t do much damage long term to any planet. But it could provide the tipping point in an argument on whether humans could be entrusted with off-world technology. Such an argument &#8212; among technologically advanced alien races &#8212; has been suggested before as the reason behind the possible denial of our probes to Mars, including ten Russian probes in a row that failed to reach their planned locations. </p>
<p>(BTW: A hilarious Earth-vs-Mars play by play can be found at <a href="http://www.bio.aps.anl.gov/~dgore/fun/PSL/marsscorecard.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bio.aps.anl.gov/~dgore/fun/PSL/marsscorecard.html</a> . As of 2000, the score was Mars 20, Earth 13, with Earth&#8217;s heavy hitters just coming to the plate).</p>
<p>The most bizarre failure was that of Fobos-2, whose onboard telemetry suggested it had been shot out of the sky by something oval-shaped coming from the surface of Mars! (Read more at <a href="http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/fobos_mystery_000630.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.space.com/sciencefiction/phenomena/fobos_mystery_000630.html</a>) Although the strange oval-looking object that appeared to be heading toward the craft has since been explained away by one scientist as a poor resolution image of the nearby moon Phobos. But the seeds of conspiracy, once sown, grow deep.</p>
<p>The blossoming fable thus unfolding it this: that some rogue elements of NASA are attempting to poison the fertile regions of our solar system, in order to bring some form of alien retaliation down on us. To what end? Why, to put the Earth and humanity in such a bad state that our &#8220;protector&#8221; must come to our rescue.</p>
<p>Which protector? Why, the great Jesu Christé himself, the returning Messiah, come to fight in the skies against the evil ones, just as Revelations says.</p>
<p>Yeah, I know, sounds like some wild-eyed Hollywood plot.</p>
<p>If only&#8230;</p>
<p>TemplarScribe<br />
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/27/the-lucifer-project/#comment-6346</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 02:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, you only need 72 lb of plutonium to create a new star?? It seems we have over-estimated the planetary engineers all this time! :-P

&lt;i&gt;"there may have been the possibility that Galileo would crash into one of the Jovian moons, contaminating them and killing any possible extra-terrestrial microbial life. This was a serious concern, especially in the case of Europa which could be a prime location for life to thrive below its ice-encrusted surface."&lt;/i&gt;

How nice that the egg-heads are so conscious of not starting to pollute another celestial body the way we have been degrading our own home world (Chernobyl anyone?) ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, you only need 72 lb of plutonium to create a new star?? It seems we have over-estimated the planetary engineers all this time! <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;there may have been the possibility that Galileo would crash into one of the Jovian moons, contaminating them and killing any possible extra-terrestrial microbial life. This was a serious concern, especially in the case of Europa which could be a prime location for life to thrive below its ice-encrusted surface.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>How nice that the egg-heads are so conscious of not starting to pollute another celestial body the way we have been degrading our own home world (Chernobyl anyone?) <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/27/the-lucifer-project/#comment-6344</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still I don't think Greg should stifle that laugh, tis the best approach to the ever-accelerating end of time scenario.  Also Greg -- nice pics in Downes' new book, "Island of Paradise."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still I don&#8217;t think Greg should stifle that laugh, tis the best approach to the ever-accelerating end of time scenario.  Also Greg &#8212; nice pics in Downes&#8217; new book, &#8220;Island of Paradise.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: craig york</title>
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		<dc:creator>craig york</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll take "Paranoid Fantasy" for
 500, Greg. This notion forgets
 the amount of material required for
 critical mass (the Cassini spacecraft
 has nowhere near enough ) the relative
 size of the Saturn 'system' (If it did
 turn into a minor star, I expect its
 moons would be mostly expanding puffs
 of vapor a couple of seconds after the
 event ) and the size of Saturn itself-
 it simply doesn't have the mass to 
 sustain such a reation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll take &#8220;Paranoid Fantasy&#8221; for<br />
 500, Greg. This notion forgets<br />
 the amount of material required for<br />
 critical mass (the Cassini spacecraft<br />
 has nowhere near enough ) the relative<br />
 size of the Saturn &#8217;system&#8217; (If it did<br />
 turn into a minor star, I expect its<br />
 moons would be mostly expanding puffs<br />
 of vapor a couple of seconds after the<br />
 event ) and the size of Saturn itself-<br />
 it simply doesn&#8217;t have the mass to<br />
 sustain such a reation.</p>
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		<title>By: BenDoverEsq.</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/07/27/the-lucifer-project/#comment-6342</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 21:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's not that I think all conspiracies are bs but this is  certainly one of the more ludicrous ones I've read. By the way, are you following the news about the Large Hadron Collider? There is a Wikipedia page called Safety of the Large Hadron Collider. Kinda hair raising stuff. And I just read this on another board. I'm not saying I buy it- just something to think about:
Prof. Dr. Otto E. Rössler about the Cern LHC and Micro Black Holes, and I quote:

“ …after 50 months the earth to a centimeter would have shrunk. It would be nothing more there, not only no more life, there but also the earth would be… a small black hole."

Now the 50 months from the Cern LHC startup takes us up to 2012, I'm not normally concerned about end of the world stories as all, obviously, have never come true. But the hype currently surrounding the 2012 Mayan calender and the weird 50 months he mentioned taking us to that date from the Cern start up does make me wonder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that I think all conspiracies are bs but this is  certainly one of the more ludicrous ones I&#8217;ve read. By the way, are you following the news about the Large Hadron Collider? There is a Wikipedia page called Safety of the Large Hadron Collider. Kinda hair raising stuff. And I just read this on another board. I&#8217;m not saying I buy it- just something to think about:<br />
Prof. Dr. Otto E. Rössler about the Cern LHC and Micro Black Holes, and I quote:</p>
<p>“ …after 50 months the earth to a centimeter would have shrunk. It would be nothing more there, not only no more life, there but also the earth would be… a small black hole.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now the 50 months from the Cern LHC startup takes us up to 2012, I&#8217;m not normally concerned about end of the world stories as all, obviously, have never come true. But the hype currently surrounding the 2012 Mayan calender and the weird 50 months he mentioned taking us to that date from the Cern start up does make me wonder.</p>
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