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	<title>Comments on: UFO Spies in &#8220;Alien Worlds&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: crgintx</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/04/05/ufo-spies-in-alien-worlds/#comment-5413</link>
		<dc:creator>crgintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 22:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In light of the recent/latest arrest of China's 2 agents caught smuggling high tech imaging cameras at LAX, I can see the how the US intelligence services are a  bit antsy but they only catch the dumb ones.  I think that most foreign intel services are smarter than ours and tend to avoid the UFO research crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In light of the recent/latest arrest of China&#8217;s 2 agents caught smuggling high tech imaging cameras at LAX, I can see the how the US intelligence services are a  bit antsy but they only catch the dumb ones.  I think that most foreign intel services are smarter than ours and tend to avoid the UFO research crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or, the stories of underground bases, etc. were (and probably still are) used as markers to identify information flow.

Now that former KGB head Putin is in power, I have heard that the Russian intelligence machine is gearing up and agents are back in the US. I don't know if this is true, but it would make sense in light of SERPO, etc. in addition to various counterterrorism activities that have definitely been in operation for the last few years. Putin has also recently protested new U.S./ NATO missile installations in eastern Europe, so the game may be on again, and UFO researchers should be on their guard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or, the stories of underground bases, etc. were (and probably still are) used as markers to identify information flow.</p>
<p>Now that former KGB head Putin is in power, I have heard that the Russian intelligence machine is gearing up and agents are back in the US. I don&#8217;t know if this is true, but it would make sense in light of SERPO, etc. in addition to various counterterrorism activities that have definitely been in operation for the last few years. Putin has also recently protested new U.S./ NATO missile installations in eastern Europe, so the game may be on again, and UFO researchers should be on their guard.</p>
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		<title>By: crgintx</title>
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		<dc:creator>crgintx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know this is going to sound conspiratorial but domestic security and intelligence agencies have long viewed any  group of non-conventional thinkers as potential threats to civil order.  The FBI  spied on such mundane movements as the Civil Rights and Environmentalists, why wouldn't they spy on the UFO research community?  It  would only take one of the more massive UFO's to actually land and an alien/crypto-terrestrial in front the cameras and the jig is up for the status quo, powers that be types and their hold over power because they won't be the biggest power on the planet anymore.  You bet that gov't's aren't real keen on that happening as most folks might tell them to take a hike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know this is going to sound conspiratorial but domestic security and intelligence agencies have long viewed any  group of non-conventional thinkers as potential threats to civil order.  The FBI  spied on such mundane movements as the Civil Rights and Environmentalists, why wouldn&#8217;t they spy on the UFO research community?  It  would only take one of the more massive UFO&#8217;s to actually land and an alien/crypto-terrestrial in front the cameras and the jig is up for the status quo, powers that be types and their hold over power because they won&#8217;t be the biggest power on the planet anymore.  You bet that gov&#8217;t&#8217;s aren&#8217;t real keen on that happening as most folks might tell them to take a hike.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/04/05/ufo-spies-in-alien-worlds/#comment-5404</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to popular opinion, the CIA has always had a large domestic operations division.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to popular opinion, the CIA has always had a large domestic operations division.</p>
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		<title>By: misteranderson</title>
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		<dc:creator>misteranderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 01:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fascinating way of looking at this phenomena. UFO enthusiasts have interactions with or brush up against intelligence agency stuff. The enthusiasts interprets this as more proof of a conspiracy, or of a govt attempt at coverup, or they are flattered by the attention &#38; want to work with the agent in finding out the truty.  At the same time, these enthusiasts are then chasing alien aircraft &#38; are diverted from paying attention to real world skunk works type projects. I thought there was a law against the CIA or DIA conducting domestic operations?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fascinating way of looking at this phenomena. UFO enthusiasts have interactions with or brush up against intelligence agency stuff. The enthusiasts interprets this as more proof of a conspiracy, or of a govt attempt at coverup, or they are flattered by the attention &amp; want to work with the agent in finding out the truty.  At the same time, these enthusiasts are then chasing alien aircraft &amp; are diverted from paying attention to real world skunk works type projects. I thought there was a law against the CIA or DIA conducting domestic operations?</p>
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		<title>By: Victor</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/04/05/ufo-spies-in-alien-worlds/#comment-5398</link>
		<dc:creator>Victor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it seems likely this is indeed one element of the truth, might we not also suspect that it's being promulgated as a new generation disinfo campaign by government agencies, like the "UFOs were all smoke screens for the U-2 and the F-117" (neither of whose flight characteristics resembled those reported over and over in UFO reports) explanation they were peddling to the History Channel and its ilk a couple years ago?

I also strongly suspect a lot of official interest in UFO investigators springs from fears by security agencies that the civilian snoops will stumble across actual black projects - deeper black than, say, those grotesquely overhyped money sinks, the "Stealth" aircraft.  Not that that should be a real controversial take, since it's a major theme of your co-conspirator Greg Bishop's excellent PROJECT BETA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it seems likely this is indeed one element of the truth, might we not also suspect that it&#8217;s being promulgated as a new generation disinfo campaign by government agencies, like the &#8220;UFOs were all smoke screens for the U-2 and the F-117&#8243; (neither of whose flight characteristics resembled those reported over and over in UFO reports) explanation they were peddling to the History Channel and its ilk a couple years ago?</p>
<p>I also strongly suspect a lot of official interest in UFO investigators springs from fears by security agencies that the civilian snoops will stumble across actual black projects - deeper black than, say, those grotesquely overhyped money sinks, the &#8220;Stealth&#8221; aircraft.  Not that that should be a real controversial take, since it&#8217;s a major theme of your co-conspirator Greg Bishop&#8217;s excellent PROJECT BETA.</p>
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