Comments on: Cosmic Conspiracies http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/02/13/cosmic-conspiracies/ UFO News, Views, and More Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:13:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: craig york http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/02/13/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4941 craig york Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:47:48 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4941 Right-o, Nick, and thanks. http://www.astronautix.com/astrogrp/phaonaut.htm One of the most interesting entries is on Vladimir Ilyushin, alleged to have flown before Gagarin-read the last paragraph if you don't want to sleep too well tonight. I'll reccomend the site generally-there is a new article on UFO's up, and the article on Lenticular spacecraft is essential reading for anybody interested in the possibility of 'Goverment Saucers.' Right-o, Nick, and thanks.
http://www.astronautix.com/astrogrp/phaonaut.htm

One of the most interesting entries is
on Vladimir Ilyushin, alleged to have flown before Gagarin-read the last paragraph if you don’t want to sleep
too well tonight. I’ll reccomend the
site generally-there is a new article on UFO’s up, and the article on Lenticular spacecraft is essential reading for anybody interested in the
possibility of ‘Goverment Saucers.’

]]> By: Nick Redfern http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/02/13/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4939 Nick Redfern Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:09:03 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4939 Craig Yep, that's cool re the link. Please do post it. Craig
Yep, that’s cool re the link. Please do post it.

]]> By: craig york http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/02/13/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4938 craig york Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:58:55 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4938 I haven't seen the latest FT (God, how I miss the Hierophant...) but this is not a new story. James Oberg has written on the subject, and there is an excellent article at the ENCYCLOPEDIA ASTRONAUTICA site. ( Nick, with your permission, I'll post a link to it. ) Thats not to say there couldn't have been some recovery efforts, but I'd think that would have come out before this. I haven’t seen the latest FT (God, how
I miss the Hierophant…) but this is
not a new story. James Oberg has written on the subject, and there is an excellent article at the ENCYCLOPEDIA
ASTRONAUTICA site. ( Nick, with your permission, I’ll post a link to it. )
Thats not to say there couldn’t have
been some recovery efforts, but I’d think that would have come out before this.

]]> By: Helgarde http://www.ufomystic.com/2008/02/13/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4934 Helgarde Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:55:43 +0000 http://www.ufomystic.com/the-redfern-files/cosmic-conspiracies/#comment-4934 That makes much more sense than the US government hiding the fact that they have recovered spaceships and alien bodies and hiding these facts from the public in order to quell mass panic. Lots of folks seem to have forgotten what the Cold War was like--folks were scared to death of the Soviets and their technology--Sputnik was a big deal when it was successfully launched and evoked awe and fear among US citizens. People were constantly aware of their possible demise in a nuclear attack launched by the USSR at any time, and frankly this kind of fear would make the crash landing of Soviet cosmonauts and spaceships on US soil just as likely, if not more likely, to cause panic among our citizenry as the crash landing of aliens from another planet. If I were an agent of the US government, and I wanted to hide the fact that I was recovering one of our own crashed spy balloons meant for surveillance of the USSR and its nuclear tests, I would certainly use the "flying saucer" explanation as a red herring. I would do the same if I was cleaning up a failed Soviet manned spacecraft on our soil. To do so would allow American scientists to look through the wreckage to see what technology was used in the spacecraft, while the rumors of alien bodies flew for generations, effectively hiding the truth in plain sight. I think it is a brilliant, and probable explanation for quite a few old cases. That makes much more sense than the US government hiding the fact that they have recovered spaceships and alien bodies and hiding these facts from the public in order to quell mass panic.

Lots of folks seem to have forgotten what the Cold War was like–folks were scared to death of the Soviets and their technology–Sputnik was a big deal when it was successfully launched and evoked awe and fear among US citizens. People were constantly aware of their possible demise in a nuclear attack launched by the USSR at any time, and frankly this kind of fear would make the crash landing of Soviet cosmonauts and spaceships on US soil just as likely, if not more likely, to cause panic among our citizenry as the crash landing of aliens from another planet.

If I were an agent of the US government, and I wanted to hide the fact that I was recovering one of our own crashed spy balloons meant for surveillance of the USSR and its nuclear tests, I would certainly use the “flying saucer” explanation as a red herring. I would do the same if I was cleaning up a failed Soviet manned spacecraft on our soil. To do so would allow American scientists to look through the wreckage to see what technology was used in the spacecraft, while the rumors of alien bodies flew for generations, effectively hiding the truth in plain sight.

I think it is a brilliant, and probable explanation for quite a few old cases.

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