Nov 01 2007
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Where Might Aliens Come From?
Many of those involved in the study of UFOs, as well as dilettantes and other interested parties make the assumption that UFO = ET. We won’t belabor the point here, since it’s been done intelligently elsewhere. Unfortunately, it’s the model that drives all popular views, which in turn affects the entire conversation.
Reading over Mac Tonnies and Paul Kimball’s debate over aliens and how they would reveal themselves to humanity, I was struck with an idea that I have been kicking around and evolving over a few years.
For this “recipe,” I took ingredients from (among others) Keith Thompson, Jacques Vallee, Aliester Crowley, Jim Brandon, John Keel, Rick Strassman, Israel Regardie, Dean Radin, Whitley Strieber, Robert Anton Wilson, William Burroughs, Terence McKenna, Kenneth Ring, Michael Talbot, Timothy Leary, Alan Watts, Charles Bowen, Jim Keith, Mario Pazzaglini, a few contactees, conversations remembered and forgotten, and simmered all of this for about 15 years.
What I come up with is this: What if the “aliens” are not coming from other star systems, from the inner earth, or even other “dimensions” (whatever that means.) What if they exist because of us? The “Other” (for that is all I can call it) is there, but it has no reason to enter our world except for the fact the we are here, incarnate in a four-dimensional world, with our ideas about reality. To them, there is no yesterday or tomorrow, there is only being–right now. Like the catechism of a deity who creates mankind in order to experience physical incarnation, this Other needs us to look at another form of existence to have something with which to compare its experience. It may look at us as a sort of time machine or tuning mechanism. From our point of view, the place that the Other inhabits either non-existent or codified in such inaccurate terms as “heaven,” “hell,” or the state of “samsara.”
Our need to explain things and work them into our view of the universe does not allow for a discarnate intelligence which takes on an infinite number of forms and manifestations. This may be why UFO entites don’t seem to follow any set patterns. They appear to come and go like fads. Perhaps the codification of the “grey” (anchored in the cover of Communion) has stuck us in our present view of the Other.
This is why I often think that there is nothing for world governments to “disclose” about UFOs. These concepts (if they are anywhere near the “truth”) do not lend themselves to easy explanations of aliens coming from other planets. How do you explain or control something that relies on individual perception and expectation? There are no boxes to put them in and no way to control when and where it will appear next. The sightings around military installations may be a result of our own fear and paranoia, which draws this Other like moths to an emotion-fueled flame.
In this vein, I am reminded of something which was apparently buzzed to Whitley Strieber years ago. He was told about a 1950s government report which warned that the aliens relied on belief to gain a foothold in our world–the more people disbelieved in their existence, the less chance they had of taking over.
Another quote that comes to mind was supposedly told to Patrolman Herbert Schirmer at the end of an abduction experience in the 1960s. The humanoid-appearing entities left him with this piece of advice: “We want you to believe in us, but not too much.”
I may be screwing things up by just thinking about it, if you get my meaning.
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November 1st, 2007 at 3:24 am
Greg wrote:
“For this “recipe,” I took ingredients from (among others) Keith Thompson, Jacques Vallee, Aliester Crowley, Jim Brandon, John Keel, Rick Strassman, Israel Regardie, Dean Radin, Whitley Strieber, Robert Anton Wilson, William Burroughs, Terence McKenna, Kenneth Ring…”
Hey, has that been you messing up my bookshelf all these years…?
Kind regards,
Greg
November 1st, 2007 at 11:25 am
That’s either a tasty stew you’re cooking there, Greg, or a toxic poison
Or at least, a brew not too pallatable to many people.
Whatever it is, it appears the ultimate goal of this Other is to join with us in ways we cannot even comprehend. That’s what I came to understand after reading Communion for the first time. That it wouldn’t be a nice Roddenberian Utopia of a Federation of Planets, or a Hubbardian dystopia of “Battlefield Earth”, but something deeply more intimate and on a personal level. With ALL of us.
Hell, Strieber admits that THEY were the ones who came up with the title!
November 1st, 2007 at 12:35 pm
Greg, I think you are sharing my brain, or something. I *just* had a strange conversation about the nature of reality with a friend at lunch.
One thing is for certain: there is a whole heck of a lot more out there (or in there, or…because of…there) than the average person thinks there is…
Makes life fun.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:33 pm
Greg,
I only mentioned a small segment of influences, but we’ve both been well-poisoned by the likes of those I mentioned. It’s certainly more interesting than more sighting reports, and may be a key to understanding. I’m not sure!
November 1st, 2007 at 4:35 pm
RPJ,
This may be what those in power are afraid of–less control over individuals who can be brought to realize that we all have a personal stake in our reality and our future, and don’t necessarily need someone telling us what to do all the time.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:37 pm
Yards,
That’s why I mentioned the “conversations remembered and forgotten.”
Yes, these mind games (with the possibility that they may be closer to the “truth”) do makes things more fun.
Also strange that Nick put up a post along similar lines right after me. I don’t know if he saw mine first, but I’d bet not. Nick?
November 1st, 2007 at 9:03 pm
Greg:
I was one of Strassman’s subjects and am very much in tune with you on your UFO hypothesis. You might find the following material of interest:
http://www.clcpress.com/dekornepsyshaman/part%20IV.htm
That’s only one chapter, but a good place to begin.
Gavilan
November 3rd, 2007 at 6:09 am
Feed your head with toxic poison…
November 3rd, 2007 at 7:26 am
If we create ‘The Other’ then why is it that only a few people seem to have access to it? Why don’t we all encounter aliens? And what is it that those who do encounter aliens have in common?
November 3rd, 2007 at 8:45 am
Greg,
That “poisonous stew” has always been my personal “theory of everything” for unexplainable.
A group of people so intent on believing something the thoughts are thrust into the realities of others. The Golem of Jewish lore comes to mind plus another 1,000 legends on top of it, alchemy, witchcraft, vodoo, shared imagery in altered states, etc. etc etc. (The Jews believed in their powers, but that doesn’t mean the Czechs did!))
Maybe “mass hallucinations” aren’t hallucinations at all, rather “mass reception” of the beliefs of others made whole.
As to Graylien’s comment “Why don’t we all encounter aliens? And what is it that those who do encounter aliens have in common?”
Just because people believe in “aliens/UFOs” doesn’t mean they believe in “ghosts”, “fairies”, “demons”, etc…vise versa. And those that have seen these events may be people with personalities of “if I see it I’ll believe it, but I’m not going to look for it”, which in essence they are opening themselves up for other peoples’ realities to come into their lives. On the other hand there are people in the this field that believe the evidence of others and now their only purpose is to “verify it for themselves” automatically cutting themselves off from that reception. i.e a priest of 40 years never witnessing ANYTHING told of in the bible, yet a young girl in the middle of depressed, poverty-ridden, churchless state has visions of things that she has never heard about or seen pictures of. Are those that beleive and long for the “proof” actually sending that belief into the ether to be received by someone with no preconceived notions against it?
Maybe this entire reality is a product of that 21 grams we all carry around.
Might there be more to all those cliches?
“Mind over matter” , “If you can dream it you can do it.”, “Better to give than to receive.”, “If you want to make God laugh tell Him your plans.”
It would be a damn good reason for governments, religions, and the powerful to always poo poo these things, because if we find out one day that all it takes is a strong belief of many to make something a physical reality without even lifting a finger, then they would pretty much have no power.
Great…I just realized I sound like an advertisement for “The Secret”…..yeesh.
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Gavilan,
I haven’t read DeKorne for awhile, but the page you linked is highly interesting and helpful. The “entities” contacted through psychedelics seem to have the same problems as “aliens” from other galaxies: They seem alternately helpful and sagelike, but also arrgoant and selfish. It looks like our meddling in this realm is frought with problems for those not prepared for it, or with weak to normal constitutions and intelligence.
The interaction between the “others” and us appear to ride a razor’s edge of usefulness, and as McKenna said in the quoted passage, “It is no great accomplishment to hear a voice in the head. The accomplishment is to make sure that it is telling you the truth.”
As someone else said: “Food for thought and grounds for further research.”
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:21 pm
Adam only reads the Bible and approved scientifc journals.
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:25 pm
Grayalien,
I may not have been clear: I meant that we may be complicit in “creating” this “Other” when it appears before us. None of us have control over when that will happen.
What those who do encounter them have in common is that they all have human minds.
November 3rd, 2007 at 11:27 pm
Plastic,
I don’t know if the “sending-receiving” model is one I apply, but your comments are well-taken. I think more of an amorphus “something” that is molded by our interactions with it, on a species basis as well (and perhaps more importantly) as individuals.
November 5th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
Greg,
So you are driving at the idea that maybe whatever these events are they view established belief as their mooring line so to speak. They don’t rely on a forced view from their end, rather they are opportunistic/parasitic in nature?
If that is the crux of your hypothesis then the current “they” are very much the antiquated “they” of legends? As our interpretations change “they” change to suit us so they may retain that hidden objective? Angels (read: Good) are depicted as beings that state a “fixed” reality and purpose, whereas the “they” of UFOs, (or those listed below read: Evil) react to a desire of its target. Usually someone who has a weakness in their life.
The jinn, succubus, demonic possessions, Shadow People, Lilith, and the devil as a snake in Eden all come to mind when I take your view of A caters to B rather then my “theory” of B creates A. (“A” being “them” and “B” being us.) And, to boot, a more contemporary reference would be the “anticipatory/trickster element” studied at the Skinwalker Ranch….Yeah, that gives a person the hee-bee-gee-bees. Are we feeding them in some way to meet their ends?
November 6th, 2007 at 9:06 am
Is this a hypothesis? If so, how could we tell the difference between it and a more nuts-and-bolts ET hypothesis?
November 6th, 2007 at 5:06 pm
Plastic G,
The post was meant as philsophical musings and extrapolation based on things I have read, heard from witnesses, and experienced myself.
Actally, by your reasoning of “fixed” purpose, the people who say that the “aliens are evil” have a point, since the UFO phenomenon (at least as it interacts with us on a personal level) seems to change with fashion and the personality of the percipient.
Don’t feed the evil bastards by maintaining a fixed belief system!
November 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
disowned,
No, it’s not a hypothesis in the classic sense, but the ETH has amounted to nothing so far except to flatter our prejudices. Perhaps we should air out other theories with just as much (or as little) “proof” to back them up.
August 18th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
Excellent post, this is exactly what Graham Hancock proposes in his new book Supernatural Aliens, Fairies et al come from within us and our DNA contains hidden language.
http://www.grahamhancock.com/supernatural/
August 19th, 2009 at 6:49 am
Arten,
I am still reading his “Supernatural.” Excellent stuff.