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		<title>By: The_Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3721</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 19:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,

What is the percentage of sightings that do not fit the psychological projection hypothesis versus does that do not? It is a very small percentage from what I read.

While very few have been seeing unknown things in the sky for thousands of years, very many have been seeing flying saucers for the last few hundred years. They are not the same thing, although it might have been the beginning of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,</p>
<p>What is the percentage of sightings that do not fit the psychological projection hypothesis versus does that do not? It is a very small percentage from what I read.</p>
<p>While very few have been seeing unknown things in the sky for thousands of years, very many have been seeing flying saucers for the last few hundred years. They are not the same thing, although it might have been the beginning of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3714</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 06:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sage,

A bold statement, but possible. Also, I'm not sure that UFOs are always unconscious projections, and we've been seeing unknown things in the skies for thousands of years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sage,</p>
<p>A bold statement, but possible. Also, I&#8217;m not sure that UFOs are always unconscious projections, and we&#8217;ve been seeing unknown things in the skies for thousands of years.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3713</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 05:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RPJ,

Funny, I got the same vibe off of the drawings.

Interesting comments re: the UMMO case. The definitive work appaprently remains to be written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RPJ,</p>
<p>Funny, I got the same vibe off of the drawings.</p>
<p>Interesting comments re: the UMMO case. The definitive work appaprently remains to be written.</p>
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		<title>By: The_Sage</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3712</link>
		<dc:creator>The_Sage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 02:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg:

You might like this quote within a quote as well...

"'The important thing is what (a man) talks about, not whether he agrees with it or not' (Vol 5, para 99). That which one passionately hates is sure to represent an aspect of his own fate" (EGO AND ARCHETYPE, Edward F Edinger, pg 76)

Carl Jung speaks of UFOs as being "a modern myth of things seen in the sky". Mythologizing is a thing which all generations have done in one way or the other since the beginning of time. In Roman and Greek times they had their multitude of Gods. People projected their bad traits onto make believe beings, who, if they were faithful to that God and their God's dogma, could transform their bad traits into that God's good traits.

UFOs are a similar story only what aspect of our personalities we are projecting onto UFOs has not been quite figured out yet, which, when that happens, will cause UFOs to cease to exist because projections can only exist as long as they are unconscious. As soon as projections are made conscious, the reason for them to exist goes away, as it did for the Roman and Greek Gods. Seen any Roman or Greek Gods lately?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:</p>
<p>You might like this quote within a quote as well&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;The important thing is what (a man) talks about, not whether he agrees with it or not&#8217; (Vol 5, para 99). That which one passionately hates is sure to represent an aspect of his own fate&#8221; (EGO AND ARCHETYPE, Edward F Edinger, pg 76)</p>
<p>Carl Jung speaks of UFOs as being &#8220;a modern myth of things seen in the sky&#8221;. Mythologizing is a thing which all generations have done in one way or the other since the beginning of time. In Roman and Greek times they had their multitude of Gods. People projected their bad traits onto make believe beings, who, if they were faithful to that God and their God&#8217;s dogma, could transform their bad traits into that God&#8217;s good traits.</p>
<p>UFOs are a similar story only what aspect of our personalities we are projecting onto UFOs has not been quite figured out yet, which, when that happens, will cause UFOs to cease to exist because projections can only exist as long as they are unconscious. As soon as projections are made conscious, the reason for them to exist goes away, as it did for the Roman and Greek Gods. Seen any Roman or Greek Gods lately?</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3672</link>
		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg -- remember when Nick posted the Stuart Miller blog and I went off about how cancer is a fungus and Stuart's dog could therefore probably talk to aliens?

Well the "blob" reference I made is actually not a fungus but a slime mold (thought previously to be a fungus).  Now the slime mold IS being used to create a strange alien language:

This is from New Scientist, last May:

The gates are treated to ensure that mould creeping though one or both of two "input" tubes eventually causes mould to either emerge from a single "output" tube or to not emerge. In an "AND" gate, for example, mould only exits from the output tube when it is fed into both input tubes. Connecting many such tubes together can be used to perform more complex calculations, albeit at a very slow speeds (slime mould's top speed is 1 centimetre per hour).

As with Zauner's research, potential applications are not very clear. But one noteworthy benefit is that a mould-based logic gate will naturally repair itself. So biological logic gates could perhaps be used in certain situations as a more resilient alternative to electronic gates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8212; remember when Nick posted the Stuart Miller blog and I went off about how cancer is a fungus and Stuart&#8217;s dog could therefore probably talk to aliens?</p>
<p>Well the &#8220;blob&#8221; reference I made is actually not a fungus but a slime mold (thought previously to be a fungus).  Now the slime mold IS being used to create a strange alien language:</p>
<p>This is from New Scientist, last May:</p>
<p>The gates are treated to ensure that mould creeping though one or both of two &#8220;input&#8221; tubes eventually causes mould to either emerge from a single &#8220;output&#8221; tube or to not emerge. In an &#8220;AND&#8221; gate, for example, mould only exits from the output tube when it is fed into both input tubes. Connecting many such tubes together can be used to perform more complex calculations, albeit at a very slow speeds (slime mould&#8217;s top speed is 1 centimetre per hour).</p>
<p>As with Zauner&#8217;s research, potential applications are not very clear. But one noteworthy benefit is that a mould-based logic gate will naturally repair itself. So biological logic gates could perhaps be used in certain situations as a more resilient alternative to electronic gates.</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
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		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Greg.

You know? Honest to God I don't know why I came up with that (the gender of the abductee). For some reason my brain assumed you had written it was a woman. But in truth is it was a mistake of mine and I can't back my claim. Then again maybe I was inffluenced by the drawings, somehow they seemed... feminine :-)

Yep, the UMMO case had a lot of bogus and falsified material, commited mostly by a man called José Luis Jordán Peña. But I just read an interesting book by spanish investigator J.J. Benítez,who wrote that people were reportin seeing UFOs with that weird &lt;b&gt;)+(&lt;/b&gt; way WAY before the UMMO letters were received in Spain. He writes about a case that happened as far back as 1924, in Alicante, Spain!

Also,it was proved by Benítez that Jordán Peña's claims cannot be taken at face value. the man is a patological lier, and changed his version plenty of times dring the years Benítez interviewed him. But as a side note, Peña claims he was helped in his little "experiment" by no other than the CIA... whatever it was, Peña must have had an outside help besides the couple of fellows who helped him in his hoaxes. Otherwise how can we explain all the letters that were sent outside Spain, like London and Brazil. Jordán Peña wasn't that wealthy to travel to all those places. If anything, Benítez book convinced me there's a lot we yet don't understand about the UMMO case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Greg.</p>
<p>You know? Honest to God I don&#8217;t know why I came up with that (the gender of the abductee). For some reason my brain assumed you had written it was a woman. But in truth is it was a mistake of mine and I can&#8217;t back my claim. Then again maybe I was inffluenced by the drawings, somehow they seemed&#8230; feminine <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Yep, the UMMO case had a lot of bogus and falsified material, commited mostly by a man called José Luis Jordán Peña. But I just read an interesting book by spanish investigator J.J. Benítez,who wrote that people were reportin seeing UFOs with that weird <b>)+(</b> way WAY before the UMMO letters were received in Spain. He writes about a case that happened as far back as 1924, in Alicante, Spain!</p>
<p>Also,it was proved by Benítez that Jordán Peña&#8217;s claims cannot be taken at face value. the man is a patological lier, and changed his version plenty of times dring the years Benítez interviewed him. But as a side note, Peña claims he was helped in his little &#8220;experiment&#8221; by no other than the CIA&#8230; whatever it was, Peña must have had an outside help besides the couple of fellows who helped him in his hoaxes. Otherwise how can we explain all the letters that were sent outside Spain, like London and Brazil. Jordán Peña wasn&#8217;t that wealthy to travel to all those places. If anything, Benítez book convinced me there&#8217;s a lot we yet don&#8217;t understand about the UMMO case.</p>
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		<title>By: drew hempel</title>
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		<dc:creator>drew hempel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the reply Greg because I'm forced to finally memorize my password and was successful.  More importantly I SAW A UFO while waiting for the library to open.  Wasn't a plane, wasn't a bird.  So whose the superman?  ME. haha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reply Greg because I&#8217;m forced to finally memorize my password and was successful.  More importantly I SAW A UFO while waiting for the library to open.  Wasn&#8217;t a plane, wasn&#8217;t a bird.  So whose the superman?  ME. haha.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>disowned,

Well, one thing that "received" scripts do is point up the fact that everything that enters our minds is interpreted to some extent. When we start to posit "others" who are sending these messages, we run into the problem of our preconceptions blocking out the full implications of the original.

We find this just trying to understand each other's earthly languages, many of which contain concepts that are foreign to us (i.e. "We don't have a word for that.")

Everything we experience is sent through a lot of filters that are below our conscious awareness. That's just one way to look at this. Of course, I'm not a psychologist either, but I learned about this phenomenon (the alien writing) from one. See &lt;a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/alien-writing/" rel="nofollow"&gt;other&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/alien-writing-2/" rel="nofollow"&gt;posts&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disowned,</p>
<p>Well, one thing that &#8220;received&#8221; scripts do is point up the fact that everything that enters our minds is interpreted to some extent. When we start to posit &#8220;others&#8221; who are sending these messages, we run into the problem of our preconceptions blocking out the full implications of the original.</p>
<p>We find this just trying to understand each other&#8217;s earthly languages, many of which contain concepts that are foreign to us (i.e. &#8220;We don&#8217;t have a word for that.&#8221;)</p>
<p>Everything we experience is sent through a lot of filters that are below our conscious awareness. That&#8217;s just one way to look at this. Of course, I&#8217;m not a psychologist either, but I learned about this phenomenon (the alien writing) from one. See <a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/alien-writing/" rel="nofollow">other</a> <a href="http://www.ufomystic.com/wake-up-down-there/alien-writing-2/" rel="nofollow">posts</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sage,

The way we think about things reveals a lot about us (not an original thought, I know.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sage,</p>
<p>The way we think about things reveals a lot about us (not an original thought, I know.)</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Bishop</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/10/29/recent-alien-writing-examples/#comment-3664</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Bishop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 17:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drew,

I guess that this writing, if any of it is "real," is partially a product of our minds trying to figure out what these "other minds" are saying to us. In other words, it's a halfway point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drew,</p>
<p>I guess that this writing, if any of it is &#8220;real,&#8221; is partially a product of our minds trying to figure out what these &#8220;other minds&#8221; are saying to us. In other words, it&#8217;s a halfway point.</p>
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