And that I suppose is one thing that really bugs the armed forces of the nations, that they don’t really understand the way these beings operate, the same way an “adult” is enraged by the manners of children that enjoy teasing.

That “100th monkey” may really be something to study, the way some event reachs some kind of “critical mass” that all of the sudden you realize a paradigm shift has been reached, almost without notice. I suppose some the powers at be might be really struggling to make that shift as painless as possible.

I have this theory that they slowly inject in our collective mindframe the possibility of alien life, then 10-15 years pass and they say “guess what? there was water on Mars, an water is a strong marker for life”; another 10 years pass and they tell us “guess what? There might be STILL some water on Mars, so there may be some underground microbes still surviving safe from the atmosphere”; another 10 years will pass and they’ll say “guess what? we have confimation of microbial life on Mars!”. And it may be little slow announcements like that until one day they go “guess what? Meet our friend XGHKILTT34 from the Eridani system!” but by then our grand children will say “whatever!” and flip the channel.

But now one has to wonder, if the governments’ slow baby-steps agenda really matches with the agenda of our visitor friends? Maybe they think our time is running out or something. Or not, if Vallee is correct and they’ve been here for millenia or even eons.

Or maybe the answer is that we’re just the sick pet project of some transintelligent interdimensional brat!

RPJ: “(Y)our’e right, the hardest thing to do is to ask the simplest questions.”

That’s why I’m surprised you didn’t ask what TGLWATCDR meant. (;^D) It stands for, “The good Lord willing and the creek don’t rise,” spoken in my mom’s area of rural Kentucky when they promised to be somewhere, if unplanned events didn’t conspire to prevent them.

You ask: “(W)hy don’t they appear somewhere that cannot enable such a rapid response from the men that want to cover it up?”

I submit two possible answers to that:

First, there are obviously better resources available to our government(s) these days, allowing them more ingenious and better coordinated responses than the original, “Hey, it was a mylar weather balloon that made that fifty-foot-long gouge at Roswell.” However, the response teams can’t respond to every event, and perhaps are wary about responding to most events, lest they tip their hand too much. This may have been a one-time, “let’s not be that obvious again” kind of thing.

But…

There are more and more sightings that just cannot be covered up, due to their location and length of time, such as the disc-shaped craft that appeared suddenly over O’Hare Concourse C in November, 2006. What could disinformation crews have done in that situation? Toss up a bunch of silver frisbees and say, “Oh, look, that’s what you saw”? (:^D)

RPJ: “Unless they, like you said, knew in advance that’s what was going to happen, and they wanted it so.”

I’m not so sure that government people knew beforehand, but they must have gotten significant reports right away (within minutes) that they took seriously, and that they decided equally as quickly to try and obfuscate. It’s even possible that some local military officer(s) decided to take action into their own hands. If I had to place a bet on what was more likely, a request going up through a chain of command to Washington, garnering approval and coming back to Phoenix, or a limited number of people at the local level deciding to act on their own, there’s no doubt that the local response is more likely. But that doesn’t rule out the ability with cell phones these days to get permission from anyone half-way across the continent, and put into play an a response within minutes.

As I said, I think the chain of command of the flare dropping unit will, in time, be compromised by pilots and other personnel involved (ground crew, flight coordinators, etc.) who will realize the importance of coming forward and admitting their part in the cover-up.

And if there’s any doubt where I stand, I do believe that the pilot(s) involved in the second event that night knew they were dropping flares in response to an actual UFO event that already had occurred that night. Until we hear from them directly, however, that is just my own humble opinion.

RPJ: “Until all those events that will spike the curiosity and mindframes of many people will snowball to such levels…”

It’s interesting to see the way UFO events seem to occur in more isolated or sporadic numbers these days, as opposed to the “flaps” or series of events that occurred in years past. For example, beginning in late 1948 and ending in 1950, there was the series of green fireball sightings in New Mexico, primarily around Kirtland’s Sandia Base (where nuclear weapons were then being stored and researched). The hundreds of sightings culminated in actual face-to-face events where floating lights less than a hundred feet away seemed to interact with guards (at Killeen army base at Ft. Hood, TX, also involved in nuclear storage), until the events seemed to stop almost at once. Since then, very few (if any) of the oddly horizontal, oddly colored lights have been reported.

Have the intelligences behind the events become aware of our ability to share coverage of such events, so that one event can now provide as much awareness as a hundred from fifty years ago?

RPJ: “Sadly, I’m beginning to think we won’t be around to enjoy that fateful day.”

Keep the faith, baby. We’re a lot closer today to witnessing events ourselves, like the UFO at O’Hare just last year. More witnesses come forward with their own sightings, like Gov. Symington, which encourages others. And as each day goes by, more well-researched books and DVDs come out that provide more evidence, more accurately reported, than ever before.

I don’t like to get into metaphysical concepts when considering UFOs, but perhaps what we’re waiting for is a sort of psychological consensus to be reached. Perhaps when enough people admit to themselves that the UFO-slash-crop circle-slash-abduction phenomenon are based around physical events, and are not all hoaxes or misidentifications of mundane objects, then something like a graduation exercise will take place.

Are you familiar with the “Hundredth Monkey Effect,” named after an event noticed beginning in 1952, of monkeys learning from each other that washing sweet potatoes (originally dropped accidentally by overflying US planes) made them taste better? While the more well known concept that such learning was learned spontaneously at a certain level (thus the 100th monkey postulate), there was the noticed effect that:

“…a much slower, more mundane effect…(I)t was noted that it was predominantly younger monkeys that learned the skill from the older monkeys through the usual means of imitation; older monkeys who did not know how to wash tended not to learn. As the older monkeys died and younger monkeys were born the proportion of washers naturally increased…” (from Wikipedia)

So it may just be that once enough of the dismissers and naysayers pass on to that Great Knowledge Leveler in the Sky, the rest of us down here will be credited with enough smarts to be exposed to the real truth of what’s going on.

More reason to exercise and eat properly (said with an empty tub of Candy Corn at hand).

– TS

“That the intelligence(s) behind the triangles are indeed trying to make their presence known to the general public, though slowly and with seemingly maddening patience….”

Maddening is definitely the word!

But let me ask you something: if these beings want to make themselves known to us, and there’ a group in the high seats of power that wants to prevent that, then why do the “aliens” make it easy to them by appearing on a city that’s so close to many Air Force bases?? Why don’t they appear somewhere that cannot enable such a rapid response from the men that want to cover it up?

Unless they, like you said, knew in advance that’s what was going to happen, and they wanted it so. To prevent a full blown exposure, but leaving that “hint” that indeed something remarkable happened that night.

Until all those events that will spike the curiosity and mindframes of many people will snowball to such levels that it will be impossible to cover the truth much longer.

Sadly, I’m beginning to think we won’t be around to enjoy that fateful day

For a novel I’m currently working on, I’ve done a lot of research on the legends of the Holy Grail. In the originals that follow Parsifal’s experience silently observing the Grail procession, the story revolves around his inability to ask the right question. Only when he returns to the Grail castle a second time does he ask the seemingly innocuous question, “Whom does the Grail serve?”

In the case of the “Night of the Giant” (I do prefer that term over the more doubtful “Phoenix Lights”), there is an important question we are failing to ask. It’s simply this:

“What invaluable information did we really learn from that night’s two separate but connected events?”

With the volume, the sincerity and the background of the observers of that night’s initial episode(including then-Republican Governor Fife Symington III, who since has admitted publicly he too witnessed the giant triangle), we must accept that something extraordinary, and not earthly, overflew the length of Arizona that night. The government would have been aware of the extent of the repercussions that would invariably follow, and nearly immediately chose to initiate a cover-up event (the flare-dropping run west of Phoenix) that had to involve the use of Arizona-based military units.

I submit then, RPJ, that we did learn something quite valuable from that night’s two linked occurrences:

That the US government has, in place, a hidden leadership that is ready at a moment’s notice to obfuscate any UFO event that cannot be denied by simple deception and media disinformation. The ability to command standard military units shows that whoever is in charge of such operations has at least some contacts higher up in the Pentagon, or at the very least, are accepted by the Pentagon without question. And that these leaders are disconnected with the lower levels of government operation, since Mr. Symington so bravely came forward to admit his own sighting, which I doubt he’d feel the need to do if he were in on it from the beginning, IMHO.

In my estimate, we’ve learned two valuable things from this event:

One: That the intelligence(s) behind the triangles are indeed trying to make their presence known to the general public, though slowly and with seemingly maddening patience; and

Two: That such disclosures are being directly opposed by a minority in the US (and possibly other) governments, for their own reasons. They are either connected to the military directly, or somehow have connections through to the military that are unquestioned.

I suggest that in the decades to come, as officers from the flare dropping units come forward (as did certain members of the disinfo units involved in the Roswell cover story), we’ll look back on this night as one of the first undeniable instances where the Hidden Elite broke cover to try and coverup a significant event. They tipped their hand, and not very well.

Eventually, we’ll be able to track them backwards from future missteps like these, TGLWATCDR. (:^D)

– TS

But in those programs he kept showing the same videos of the lights that start to appear one by one. And he also showed artistic reproductions of the craft with many lights on its underbelly, the same number as the ones showed in the videos.

So now I’m reading that those videos showed an ENTIRELY different thing than what other people claimed to witness, like the fellow in the interview. That an object appeared around 8:00 pm butthe videos were shot around 10.

Personally I think this case will now lead us nowhere. I understand the awe and surprise that these persons could have felt when (allegedly) seeing this big-ass V-shaped thing over their homes (Me? I would have SOILED myself). But now the media will forever assume all they saw were those “flares”.

I think the same ting happened on the cases of boomerang-type crafts that were seen on New York during the 80s; there was one case where most probably the lights were planes in formation so now VOILA! all the reports can now easily be explained.

The only thing left for me would be to ask: IF this thing indeed flew over Phoenix, and was witnessed by thousands of people but not by the pilots who flew to the airport… if this thing could indeed have some sort of “camouflage” that would make it transparent or translucent like the witness claims… was the sighting intentional or not?

Of course, I don’t expect my question to be answered anytime soon.