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The Office of Naval Intelligence is the oldest intelligence unit in the US military. A man named Robert Walkowski is apparently claiming that the Navy is the gatekeeper of the real black world UFO secrets (an interview about this subject that he claims to have conducted with his father is about halfway down the page.) When I first bookmarked this about three weeks ago, there was a bit more info on Naval involvement with the UFO subject. I have no idea why it was changed.

This info resembles the stories of a certain man who approached me in the mid-1990s, claiming to be working with special unit of Naval Intelligence. He told me that the Navy had much more authority over the status of the UFO subject than the Air Force. After all, he claimed, the Navy has jurisdiction over 70% of the planet (the oceans.) He told me about satellites that could locate anything, anywhere above and below the surface of the sea, all over the planet. This man also said that Naval Intelligence was in charge of security for Area 51, a claim that I have never been able to substantiate. At that time, Physicist Bob Lazar was talking about working for the Navy at the secret base.

This was all very heady stuff to a naive zine publisher like me. We talked in restaurants and cafes, where he bought along briefcases full of documents and pictures for me to look at, all the while saying that his special group was trying to get the real truth about UFOs out to the public. He talked the talk and seemed to back up his claims with little-known or even secret information, such as landing and take-off schedules for the newly-announced Stealth fighter aircraft. This was confirmed by a close friend of mine, who went out to the Lockheed Skunk Works site before it was moved from the Burbank airport and actually saw the thing zoom over his head just when he was told it would. The burly Navy man also told us about developments in the Bosnian conflict weeks before they were reported in the news.

Early on, he handed me about 500 pages of his own writings on the subject of government secrets and UFOs. The thick booklets, printed on one side of each page, discussed the secret history of spycraft, UFOs, mind control, and even biowarfare. Apparently, these were given out to only a few people. Why he (or someone else) would go to all this trouble just to rile up a few UFO researchers remains a mostly inscrutable question.

This is the logo of the unit he claimed to be working for. The acronym probably stands for “Naval Intelligence Command/ Navy Special Warfare” and the Latin translates to: “Faithful Even After Death.” I suspect that there never was such a unit in existence.

Ultimately, there was nothing provable about his UFO statements, but his method should be studied by anyone who is interested in the UFO/ government angle: He told us about secret developments in the military world that later turned out to be true in order to get myself and others to listen to his UFO stories, which we really had no way of checking out. This is why I have often said that anything coming from a so-called “inside” source should not be taken as gospel until the facts can be checked. Unfortunately, many researchers are so charmed by this attention that they immediately regurgitate the UFO info, thereby infusing the public with many crazy stories that both muddy the waters of understanding and serve the insider’s agenda, which is of course ignored by the incautious researcher.

Because of this experience, and those of others (credulous and otherwise) I believe that many UFO “revelations” foisted on us in the last 50 years may have had very little to do with aliens and flying saucers. They were more likely cover stories to advance other agendas having nothing at all to do with UFOs, such as spycatching and diversionary tactics in service of counterintelligence operations. The UFO stories tend to be the wackiest of the wacky, such as those told to Paul Bennewitz in the 1980s, and which spread throughout Ufology for years afterwards.

But as for my Navy friend, I was told years later that he died of a heart attack at age 30 while waiting for a bus, and that there was compelling evidence that he was never in the armed forces. This was in the form of letters between himself and someone who apparently really was in Naval Intelligence. So it appears that I was being used by someone else higher up the food chain that was being used as well.

Some people will never be divested of the notion that the term “military intelligence” is a oxymoron, but there are definitely a lot of sharp people who choose that career path.

7 Comments to “Who Keeps The UFO Secrets?”

uth Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 9:52 am

I’m not really convinced that the govt knows much more than private researchers about UFOs.

Stories like this can be used by govt agencies to cover black projects, test propaganda techniques, even to test for leaks.

craig york Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 11:21 am

I remember seeing the ‘the NAVY know…’ meme ( if you will ) at
the Iconclast’s blog not long ago.
While an interesting notion, it
occurs to me that inter-service
rivalry is as good a counter-arguement
to the notion of any branch of the
service holding “the truth about Flying
Saucers” locked up in a file cabinet somewhere. I’d have to go back and re-read Sanderson’s INVISIBLE RESIDENTS to
see if there was any thing that suggested a deliberate and methodical
effort to research the phenomena, but nothing is ringing any bells.

You raise a valid, if perplexing point-
why would any Goverment agency seek to
sow dis-information through what is
(Arguebly ) a relative obscure venue?
I should add I don’t accept the ‘cover
for Black projects’ explanation-most
Military organizations are fairly good
at keeping projects secret, without the
need of surreal cover stories.

Greg Bishop Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 11:54 am

Uth,

I’m not convinced of that either. See this post (and the two subsequent ones) about the subject. Everything you mention is covered in it.

Greg Bishop Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 11:56 am

Craig,

I’ve considered that interserivce rivalry is a good reason for Navy people to come out of the woodwork, but the fact that we hear almost nothing from them is cause for at least some attention from UFO researchers.

Perhaps seeing what the Air Force and CIA had done in the 1980s, the Navy had some sort of UFO disinfo test going on in the 1990s, and I was just one of the guinea pigs.

red pill junkie Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 12:36 pm

The idea that th Navy is above the loop than the Air Force does seem logic. Think of all the alleged UFO crashes we are all so fond of reading: Roswell et all. Now think of all the UFOs that could crash ON THE OCEANS, and of all the unidentified blips the nuclear submarines must get that we never hear of…

PS: BTW, just for kicks I googled that little phrase FIDELIS TANQUAM POST MORTEM. One of the first links was THIS page which scared me SHITLESS:

http://www.sammyfranco.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=765

In there there’s a post by a guy that signs his post with the nick “tsunami surfer” and with the phrase AD FINEM TERRAM. FIDELIS TANQUAM POST MORTEM.

So the phrase must be really used by a navy corp…

drew hempel Says:
August 20th, 2007 at 7:44 pm

Well considering my “mothershiplanding” blogspot site was apparently hacked (the latest few chapters and comments are now gone) it would appear that lots of people “keep the secrets.” The recent revelations about the CIA censoring Wiki is not too surprising so maybe my subtitle: Secrets of the CIA’s Psi-plasma vortex irked someone or it could just be a technological error.

The secret of cutting edge science: quantum chaos, is that no one will know except the computers! I don’t think any agency is in control but it’s admirable Greg that you didn’t try to leverage your zanny source.

I always like open direct communication but some people aren’t aware that the truth is always stranger than fiction. haha.

Emperor Says:
August 24th, 2007 at 8:32 pm

Interesting piece. This is a topic that I’ve been nosing around for a bit:
http://tinyurl.com/29f4f9

The Navy does seem to crop up a lot throughout the weirdness of the 20th century.

For example Jack Parsons seems to have been surrounded by the Navy towards his death. L. Ron Hubbard (Naval Intelligence) was his scribe during the workings to invoke the “scarlet woman” - when he returned from the desert (where he’d been with Hubbard) she was waiting, well Marjorie Cameron (Navy) was. After this Hubbard ran off with Parson’s woman and Cameron messed Parsons around until the day of his death. Robert Heinlein (Navy before and after meeting Parsons) seems to have been a fixer-upper in certain pre-WWII circles on the West Coast, with his Manana Literary Society bringing together sci-fi writers (including Hubbard), nuclear/rocket scientists and occultists (Parsons one of both). It doesn’t appear Hubbard and Parsons met there (although oddly they appear together in a fictionalised account before they are supposed to have met) but Heinlein’s family have sought to erase parts of this period so things are unclear. It does appear that there are occult influences on his work (Stranger in a Strange Land possibly being based on Parsons and thelema and other works drawing on the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn). Hubbard turned up at Parson’s house just after WWII around the time that the Heinleins were regular visitors. So with in Parsons’ orbit there were a number of (ex?) Navy personnel with occult interests, two of them sci-fi authors who wrote books (”fact” and fiction) that draw on OTO principles aimed at changing the way people think.

Scientology links back (via Peter Moon) into the Montauk Project (which some have described as a Naval intelligence operation) and the Philadelphia Experiment. Although the latter clearly has a lot of Naval links one odd thing is that in 1943 Heinlein was redrafted into the Navy and ended up at the Philadelphia Naval Yards (along with L. Sprague de Camp and Isaac Asimov). As there may be obvious reasons that Scientology reads like bad sci-fi, could there be a good reason why the Philadelphia Experiment sounds like better quality sci-fi?

Now this might be a wild case of join the dots (possibly from a couple of different puzzles) but one thing that is clear is that the Navy are trying very hard to get (dis)infomration out. Look, for example, at the amount of effort they put into the spreading of the Philadelphia Experiment myth. The ironic thing there is that they did rather a bad job initially and it really only went overground with the help of Berlitz (famous for popularising various mysteries, partly by running fast and loose with the “facts”) and William Moore (famous for being a spreader of disinformation with connections to The Aviary, which itself may have included Jacques Vallee and shares personnel with the NIDS).

I think whatever they are up to the last thing this has anything to do with is UFOs (or disappearing boats - except when connected with Hubbard). Obviously it could be due to disinfo and spy tracking but The Aviary (which included Naval personnel) was an odd mix of people with interests including UFOs, intelligence matters and non-lethal weapons and I suspect it is possible there might be interests in:

*Memetic engineering - releasing/manipulating ideas and most recently with an expressed interest in using the Internet for this. This might be seen to be relatively harmless but the field is woven through with fiction or fiction pitched as religion/fact which has fundamentally altered the way people think (see for example the influence of Stranger in a Strange Land).

*Non-lethal weapons - most obvious hologram projection. The apparent appearance of Jesus off the coast of Cuba is suspected to have been a hologram cast from a navy sub. Note this is also an example of using non-lethal weapons in conjunction with memetic engineering in an attempt to over throw Castro. At the moment Iran (including a lot of the top level of power), and part so the Sunni communities across the Middle East, is in the grip of the belief the Mahdi is returning, which would signal the end of the world. One can only wonder what would happen if a number of techniques were used (ironically the holograms are called “prophet” holograms).

The “Truth” though, remains elusive - that is probably the point

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To end Vallee also wrote sci-fi, including FastWalker (A NORAD term for UFOs) described thusly:

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FastWalker introduces a technology that is utilized by the intelligence community to duplicate the effects of real UFOs to assist in their ongoing program of deception and manipulation of society.
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