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		<title>By: misteranderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2846</link>
		<dc:creator>misteranderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:29:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for your thoughts........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for your thoughts&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2845</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"1)the joy of a prank?"

Why not? 99.9% of all the videos posted on Youtube are comedy-related and done by amateurs. Or maybe it was something posted initially by someone who was curious to see if another person would take it further. 

"2)targeting a subgroup like us(those fond of reading UFO stuff)? ...this subgroup...is so small &#38; politically insignificant that just didn’t seem to be a worthwhile pursuit by an intelligence-govt outfit."

Maybe... maybe not. The thing about applying a lever is to know where EXACTLY to put it to get the greatest amount of result with the least amount of effort.
Yes, we are a small bunch of weirdos those of us who enjoy spending our nights reading about these fantastic tall tales of conspiracies and cosmic watergates; but a strength or influence of a group may come not only from big numbers. Think for example on the members of Heaven's Gate, these were all well-educated individuals that came from a middle-class enviroment, some of them were computer programmers for example, and yet they were willing to commit suicide because some maniac convinced them an alien ship that was tail-gating the Hale-Bopp comet was coming to pick them up. Think of the people that are part of the Raelians; heck think of the power the scientologists have despite the fact they are not such a wide-spread religion!


"3) if 2) is true, then if it is an intelligence outfit, then the motivation is to keep UFO enthusiasts from prying into black operations or military development activities."

Read about Paul Bennewitz for example; now Greg (Bishop)wrote a book I'm definitely going to purchase through Amazon, but you can find some info on Wikipedia. This was a very intelligent man that seemed to have been manipulated by the US government using his interest on UFOs.

You know what? My honest-to-God thoughts are that, the more I read about the UFO phenomenon, the less I seem to understand. I have no idea what's going on. I have no evidences, only the slightest hints I seem to recognize from here and there.Maybe there's a danger in knowing too much. That's why I advise to take everything about all this with a very big grain of salt.

In the mean time let's keep searching to see where the rabbit hole takes us.

Maybe it is an exit... 

Maybe it's a labyrinth where a monster is waiting ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;1)the joy of a prank?&#8221;</p>
<p>Why not? 99.9% of all the videos posted on Youtube are comedy-related and done by amateurs. Or maybe it was something posted initially by someone who was curious to see if another person would take it further. </p>
<p>&#8220;2)targeting a subgroup like us(those fond of reading UFO stuff)? &#8230;this subgroup&#8230;is so small &amp; politically insignificant that just didn’t seem to be a worthwhile pursuit by an intelligence-govt outfit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe&#8230; maybe not. The thing about applying a lever is to know where EXACTLY to put it to get the greatest amount of result with the least amount of effort.<br />
Yes, we are a small bunch of weirdos those of us who enjoy spending our nights reading about these fantastic tall tales of conspiracies and cosmic watergates; but a strength or influence of a group may come not only from big numbers. Think for example on the members of Heaven&#8217;s Gate, these were all well-educated individuals that came from a middle-class enviroment, some of them were computer programmers for example, and yet they were willing to commit suicide because some maniac convinced them an alien ship that was tail-gating the Hale-Bopp comet was coming to pick them up. Think of the people that are part of the Raelians; heck think of the power the scientologists have despite the fact they are not such a wide-spread religion!</p>
<p>&#8220;3) if 2) is true, then if it is an intelligence outfit, then the motivation is to keep UFO enthusiasts from prying into black operations or military development activities.&#8221;</p>
<p>Read about Paul Bennewitz for example; now Greg (Bishop)wrote a book I&#8217;m definitely going to purchase through Amazon, but you can find some info on Wikipedia. This was a very intelligent man that seemed to have been manipulated by the US government using his interest on UFOs.</p>
<p>You know what? My honest-to-God thoughts are that, the more I read about the UFO phenomenon, the less I seem to understand. I have no idea what&#8217;s going on. I have no evidences, only the slightest hints I seem to recognize from here and there.Maybe there&#8217;s a danger in knowing too much. That&#8217;s why I advise to take everything about all this with a very big grain of salt.</p>
<p>In the mean time let&#8217;s keep searching to see where the rabbit hole takes us.</p>
<p>Maybe it is an exit&#8230; </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a labyrinth where a monster is waiting <img src='http://www.ufomystic.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: misteranderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2844</link>
		<dc:creator>misteranderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 02:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's another question:

If there is some rogue intelligence group putting this stuff out(or rogue-prankster types), then why?

1)the joy of a prank?

2)targeting a subgroup like us(those fond of reading UFO stuff)? I initially thought these kinds of operations were possible when I read Jacques Valle's books. Then I thought, but this subgroup(i.e.those interested enough in UFO's to buy books &#38; think about UFO's) is so small &#38; politically insignificant that just didn't seem to be a worthwhile pursuit by an intelligence-govt outfit

3) if 2) is true, then if it is an intelligence outfit, then the motivation is to keep UFO enthusiasts from prying into black operations or military development activities

Your thoughts???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another question:</p>
<p>If there is some rogue intelligence group putting this stuff out(or rogue-prankster types), then why?</p>
<p>1)the joy of a prank?</p>
<p>2)targeting a subgroup like us(those fond of reading UFO stuff)? I initially thought these kinds of operations were possible when I read Jacques Valle&#8217;s books. Then I thought, but this subgroup(i.e.those interested enough in UFO&#8217;s to buy books &amp; think about UFO&#8217;s) is so small &amp; politically insignificant that just didn&#8217;t seem to be a worthwhile pursuit by an intelligence-govt outfit</p>
<p>3) if 2) is true, then if it is an intelligence outfit, then the motivation is to keep UFO enthusiasts from prying into black operations or military development activities</p>
<p>Your thoughts???</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2842</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"So there 2 distinguishable elements here:

-the actors stitching the story elements together

-the as yet unindentifiable, or unknown, director behind the scenes

Did I get this right?"

Yeah, I think so. I think what Bennet sees in all these stories is the danger of the potential use of them as tools of control over some groups of persons. In these case, the CARET story would be targeted to people like you and me who are fond of reading UFO websites. So Bennet thinks these stories have just the right amount of deniability to keep us "hooked". According to the so-called  "Isaac", he never saw a UFO or an alien, he just was told by his employers that the technology he was working with was reverse-engineered from extraterrestrial crashes (something that by now IS a well established Meme in the minds of a lot of people).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So there 2 distinguishable elements here:</p>
<p>-the actors stitching the story elements together</p>
<p>-the as yet unindentifiable, or unknown, director behind the scenes</p>
<p>Did I get this right?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, I think so. I think what Bennet sees in all these stories is the danger of the potential use of them as tools of control over some groups of persons. In these case, the CARET story would be targeted to people like you and me who are fond of reading UFO websites. So Bennet thinks these stories have just the right amount of deniability to keep us &#8220;hooked&#8221;. According to the so-called  &#8220;Isaac&#8221;, he never saw a UFO or an alien, he just was told by his employers that the technology he was working with was reverse-engineered from extraterrestrial crashes (something that by now IS a well established Meme in the minds of a lot of people).</p>
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		<title>By: misteranderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2841</link>
		<dc:creator>misteranderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the response,

I was worried about the evidence question, let me leave that out.
1)So, what Bennett is saying that the group of people(the ones who are sequentially   adding different elements to the grafitti) stitching the specific UFO meme are compelled by some unknown element(either ultra-terrestial, extraterrestial, or rogue intelligence agents). 

So there 2 distinguishable elements here:

-the actors stitching the story elements together

-the as yet unindentifiable, or unknown, director behind the scenes

Did I get this right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the response,</p>
<p>I was worried about the evidence question, let me leave that out.<br />
1)So, what Bennett is saying that the group of people(the ones who are sequentially   adding different elements to the grafitti) stitching the specific UFO meme are compelled by some unknown element(either ultra-terrestial, extraterrestial, or rogue intelligence agents). </p>
<p>So there 2 distinguishable elements here:</p>
<p>-the actors stitching the story elements together</p>
<p>-the as yet unindentifiable, or unknown, director behind the scenes</p>
<p>Did I get this right?</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2840</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 00:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>misteranderson:

He didn't present evidence, because there's none.

Who is releasing the SERPO, CARET, CHAD Drone evidence? Could be different peple with absolutely no connection to each other. Think about a guy that starts a little graphiti in the door of a public rest room, then comes another who adds a little of his own doing, and then another, and another. They are total strangers to each other, but feel compelled to "go along with the game". Suddenly the end result seems like nothing the original perpetrator thought in the first place. The graphiti literally took a life of its own.

Same thing could be happening here. Somethin like that certainly seems to be happening with some crop circles in England. 

But Bennet proposes that the effort to circulate these stories in the web seems too correlated and well orchestated, as if there was some sort of group who's been making a deliverate attempt to make people believe in these stories (whether they may eve have some speck of truth in them or not). It is an interesting hypothesis that deserves to be studied further.

I really suggest you investigate on a more older example of this: The UMMO case. You can find some information in Wikipedia. It is my opinion that UMMO was perhaps the grand daddy of all these cases when strange statements were sent to UFO enthusiasts to see how they could spread and take a life of their own, even if the original perpetrators stopped the experiment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>misteranderson:</p>
<p>He didn&#8217;t present evidence, because there&#8217;s none.</p>
<p>Who is releasing the SERPO, CARET, CHAD Drone evidence? Could be different peple with absolutely no connection to each other. Think about a guy that starts a little graphiti in the door of a public rest room, then comes another who adds a little of his own doing, and then another, and another. They are total strangers to each other, but feel compelled to &#8220;go along with the game&#8221;. Suddenly the end result seems like nothing the original perpetrator thought in the first place. The graphiti literally took a life of its own.</p>
<p>Same thing could be happening here. Somethin like that certainly seems to be happening with some crop circles in England. </p>
<p>But Bennet proposes that the effort to circulate these stories in the web seems too correlated and well orchestated, as if there was some sort of group who&#8217;s been making a deliverate attempt to make people believe in these stories (whether they may eve have some speck of truth in them or not). It is an interesting hypothesis that deserves to be studied further.</p>
<p>I really suggest you investigate on a more older example of this: The UMMO case. You can find some information in Wikipedia. It is my opinion that UMMO was perhaps the grand daddy of all these cases when strange statements were sent to UFO enthusiasts to see how they could spread and take a life of their own, even if the original perpetrators stopped the experiment.</p>
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		<title>By: misteranderson</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2839</link>
		<dc:creator>misteranderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off topic question:

I just read Colin Bennett's essay you recommended. I'm not sure I got what he said. Did he say,"there is some secret group submitting UFO stories to test &#38; see what works &#38; who goes for this"? If this is so, where does evidence fit in his argument. Did he present some evidence for this as a possibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic question:</p>
<p>I just read Colin Bennett&#8217;s essay you recommended. I&#8217;m not sure I got what he said. Did he say,&#8221;there is some secret group submitting UFO stories to test &amp; see what works &amp; who goes for this&#8221;? If this is so, where does evidence fit in his argument. Did he present some evidence for this as a possibility?</p>
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		<title>By: red pill junkie</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2007/08/13/british-police-encounter/#comment-2838</link>
		<dc:creator>red pill junkie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Apparently as a result of his illness, the man could not remember the password."

How CONVENIENT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Apparently as a result of his illness, the man could not remember the password.&#8221;</p>
<p>How CONVENIENT.</p>
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