I always appreciate your inciteful and intelligent thoughts, but sometimes you leave too much commentary for me to comment upon, especially when it’s longer than the original post.

As you imply, those who have not started the journey cannot appreciate where it leads and what happens along the way. Indeed, our view of “reality” in developed areas of the globe is stifled by comfort and complacency. Those reading your comments may hopefully be inspired to start their own explorations in their own way.

It’s strongest three days before and after the full moon and if I don’t eat then the energy transfers my body into a free energy system using electrochemical dynamics of attraction between the sexes. The bushmen, the culture for 90% of human history, do their strongest trance dances on the full moon and the Buddhist monks also do their strongest ceremonies on the full-moon.

As far as “not remembering” — the source of all visions is not the person but the formless awareness or pure consciousness which then resonates into the brain and is transduced into image or sound or some other sensation. So the formless awareness takes care of the yogi and remembering is just an after-effect.

We think of information as digital but it’s actually an analog of formless awareness resonating as a nonlinear sine-wave: the Tai-chi symbol, the OHM symbol and the equilateral triangle tetrad. Those three symbols are equivalent and, as Henri Poincare and HWJ Pringle, the Oxford biologist, emphasized — all of evolution and all of science are just variants of the sine-wave. Supersymmetry is mapped as an inverse proportion of mass squared and energy frequency distance (source: professor Gordon Kane). The source of this mass squared is weight on the end of a Pythagorean string with 4 times the weight creating twice the frequency — that’s the precise source of Newton’s inverse square concept of gravity, as discovered in the 1960s and published by the Philosophical Transactions of the Royal Society of London (source Professor James Bunn).

Alchemy, in contrast to science, relies on asymmetrical resonance so that A X B does not equal B X A. The gauge group theories for unified field science also rely on noncommutative matrices so that higher dimensions can be reduced. But the reliance on phonetic symbols is still derived from a closed system of resonance — the concept of “containing infinity” through geometry, while relying on averaging of values.

Averaging (statistics) and real number logarithmics (equi-partition with one-to-one correspondance) still rely on symmetry — as is the subject of quantum chaos math professor Ian Stewart’s new book: Why Beauty is Truth: A history of symmetry.

Nonwestern paranormal vision healing goes against 10,000 years of human history, ever since the “symbolic revolution” that destroyed all circular housing (the lunar, female energy) to use only rectilinear housing and rectilinear plowing, based on anthropocentric art-work. As Cauvin details in his “Birth of the Gods and the Origin of Agriculture” (Cambridge U Press, 2000), the “symbolic revolution” was the first time humans became anthropocentric and previously the mentality was syncretic — relying on a continuum with other life-forms: chimera.

The societies continued to be matrlineal and there developed the Goddess worship of the early city-states but then iron replaced silver as a more valuable currency for ritual sacrifice temple worship. Freemasonry became solidified with blacksmiths totally isolated from the rest of the castes and blacksmiths as the leading shamans with the ability to shapeshift into crocodiles. There are several academic anthropology books on this: In the Eyes of the Night: Witchcraft in a Senegalese vilage; Iron, Gender and Power in Africa; Women of the Hoe; and Women Like Meat by professor Megan Biesle, etc.

We may be arguing apples and oranges, but points well-taken. The Rv’ers had a few instances of sights they “saw” arriving “unannounced,” such as unexpected images of UFOs, other planets, etc.

I think there is a fundamental difference. When you look at how RVers operate, they try to be as receptive as possible, but they remain consciously aware of what’s happening…they just try to quiet the rational part of the mind and allow thoughts to bubble up from the (collective?) unconscious.

Trance is a full-blown move into another state of consciousness, the duration of which is usually never remembered consciously.

As for the ‘fits’ part, I think it’s a little different also:

“The men of that Second Sight do not [simply] discover strange things when asked, but…[in] fits and Raptures …”

To me, this is exactly *not* remote viewing (they “do not discover strange things when asked”). What this passage is actually saying is that the second sight arrives unannounced and on its own time (such as entity contacts etc) - in a fit, or rapture. It’s not talking about the duration of the experience/information receival.

In my opinion anyhow…

Kind regards,
Greg

All these terms in the West got water-downed into psychobabble because we refuse to deal with our emotions which all must be transformed for trance to occur. The rapture or fits — well kundalini up the back is a type of fit! haha. This is why traditionally males were the healers with only 10% of the females becoming healers. The females can handle the pain of childbirth but the pain of dying is too strong. It’s a hormone difference. And yes the afrocentric analysis of melanin as an electromagnetic iron sink is also true. The recent study on fungus using melanin to eat radiation made notice that such possibilities might exist for humans.

Yep.

Can’t that “receptive mode” also be described as a “trance?” The part about “fits” sounded more like the images that come to RV’ers through their subconscious. Astral travel (as far as I know) does not come in “fits,” but as you say, may be more accurately described as “raptures,” so maybe Kirk was writing about both.

My favorite fiction is Flann O’Brien’s The Third Policeman and Beckett’s WATT.
Language used to be more musical and the most sophisticated language is the Khoisan language which is the human culture for 90% of human history.

90% of the males in the Khoisan culture were healers that went into trance. The process to do this is the same as for qigong and yoga and vision quest.

When the men go hunting they have no contact with females for 3 days and nights before the hunt. The hunt usually takes a week, during which the men mainly fast and use magic to track the animal (usually an Eland bull — antelope).

Upon return the meat is distributed by whomever made the poisoned arrow (this ensures no hoarding of meat). The whole community goes into a frenzy because of the meat. An all night trance dance ensues. The females clap sophisticated syncopation and sing trance songs. The men dance around a fire for 10 hours straight.

The healing state enables seeing spirit light that invades people and causes illness. To achieve that vision state N/um must be induced — N/um is boiling heat. N/um occurs in the belly. It’s called Jing in Taoism and Tumo in Tibetan buddhism.

When this first happens for a man the heat is overwhelming because the energy shoots up the back and intense blissful electromagnetic power overcomes the brain. The other males, more experienced, need to teach the new healer not to be overexcited and not to be afraid.

When in the trance state death is literally surpassed because the spirit leaves the body.

Now after training in this, through http://springforestqigong.com I then compared it with the strongest psychoactive substance on the planet — Salvia — a legal drug, for the moment. People have seen elves while on Salvia and one person combined DMT with Salvia. He found that DMT was overpowered by Salvia and that the Salvia elves took over the DMT elves. The elves had the wrong clothes on and some of their body parts were switched around!!

I found that the full-lotus is stronger than the Salvia. When I smoked 10x my spirit tried to fly out of my body. I personally know two people who had their spirit fly out of their body (into the floor) when they smoked 10x — one hit and they never smoked Salvia again, even though one person had done every other type of drug. Salvia was too scary.

So I was laughing when my spirit was half way out of my body but the full-lotus was too strong! The Salvia was trying to suck me out but couldn’t! I smoked the whole gram in a night. So then I smoked 17x. That took 3 nights to finish off a gram. I kept just blacking out (in full-lotus) but finally had an amazing vision where I could see my hands — with my 3rd Eye — while my eyes were closed and covered with a hat. Best of all there was a rainbow aura around my hands and then that night I dreamt of MOLA art work from the CUNA of Panama — they smoke cannabis as a sacred herb and they drink bitter cocoa, several glasses every night.

So I felt that I finally solved the “spiritual drug” thing. Salvia strongly activates the jing — or life energy force. This causes an internal orgasm that rises up the back because of the full-lotus press. I would have maybe 6 or even 10 internal orgasms from several hits of Salvia. The full-lotus also causes these same internal climaxes. After several of these climaxes the electrochemicals (emotions) are ionized to create great heat in the belly and heart. This finally shoots up to the brain and great heat in the brain resonates the pineal gland enabling spirit travel.

Literally the top of the head gets soft, just like a baby, and a person can breathe through their hands and feet and skull! When I say breathe I mean create oxygen and even water by some sort of reverse electrolysis. I went 8 days with only maybe half a glass of water and no food, yet through the full-lotus, tai chi and the below exercise, my energy just got stronger. I was never hungry. This is called an “energy feast” or bigu state in qigong. I saw dead spirits in this state and also did some very strong electromagnetic healing. I also had telepathy and telekinesis.

Salvia causes spirit travel — but only through electrochemical ionization. While full-lotus enables spirit travel through electromagnetic or chi power. Chi or prana is electromagnetic while drugs create jing — the Hindu term slips me, but it means “drops of bliss.”

Astral travel is through electromagnetic power. The full-lotus can’t really be effective until electromagnetic fields are created through the ionized electrochemicals or emotions. This is why great bliss or love is created — all the lower emotions are transformed (overexcitement, anger, worry, fear, sadness).

Think of when Jung caused telekinesis for Freud. Jung stated his solar plexus become hot like an iron. When Robert Bruce did his astral travel (and then his techniques were used to teach remote viewing) he also focused on sublimating his sex energy so that it was transformed into ionized force.

As far as Remote Viewing goes — the best one for me was Alex Tanous. He was a gypsy and literacy was not allowed in their culture until recently. This gets back to the importance of musical language and the Celts.

There are 12 harmonic nodes along the outside of the body that can be resonated just by focusing the mind while sitting in a chair. This is the small universe practice — the most importance model for trance vision healing — found in China and also in India but based on the blacksmith alchemy that also pervaded Africa and Europe — and the sun-king pyramid power of the new world.

The detailed book on this subject is “Taoist Yoga: Alchemy and Immortality” trans. by Charles Luk — that’s a traditional Asian text on blacksmith shape-shifting.

Not sure if I’d say the passage describes RV. Remote viewers tend to get into that ‘receptive’ mode and wait for things to break through from the unconscious into the conscious. The ‘trances’ describe seem more like astral travel, which I think is quite a bit different (the former waiting for information to come to RVers about the real worl, the latter traveling into the astral and exploring it).

Good link though, thanks.

Kind regards,
Greg