More UK-UFO File Revelations
More from Dave Clarke on the forthcoming declassification of the British Ministry of Defense’s UFO files:
“The figure of 7,000 [reports] is an estimate based upon the statistics MoD have released showing the number of reports made to their UFO desk (DS8 and Sec(AS) etc) on a year by year basis from 1962 to present. These were routinely copied to DIST and DI55, and DI55’s own report files - which are the ones due for release - begin circa 1978 and end in 2002.
“There are 24 files each containing 2-300 reports most of which consist of a one-page military signal with information set out in the SOP format with questions A-O. According to their own internal commentary (circa 1982): ‘DI55 regularly receives these reports, but with the current manpower situation we can do little other than skim through them and file. They do provide the occasional flash of (unintended) humour to brighten our lives; very occasionally they pose an interesting puzzle which we cannot follow up.’
“According to MoD all DI55 reports pre-1970s have ‘either been destroyed or sent to the National Archives’; although one file in the series - part 8 - is labelled UFO incidents - period not known and may contain reports from the 1960s. I have had the opportunity to examine 4 DI55 files which escaped the asbestos disaster and which cover the very active year 1979. As well as the signals there was also a detailed report on the New Zealand sightings of December 1978 submitted to DI55 by the Air Attache in Wellington which does not appear in the equivalent DS8 file for the same period.
“While there is little evidence of follow-ups there are one or two incidents emanating from service sources or which involveradar or electromagnetic effects (which was DI55’s responsibility) that either a) show some basic attempt at a follow up or b) appear to have been channelled to DI55 directly bypassing the civilian UFO desk, although it is impossible to confirm this.
“Two examples from the 1979 files include one involving an incident involving two Phantom crews under the control of RAF
Neatishead confirmed by AWACS and another involving unusual radar returns detected by early warning radars at Saxa Vord and Buchan in Scotland. I was unable to find any trace of these reports in the equivalent DS8 files for the same year. The lack of any in-depth follow-ups or on-site investigations means the British archive is of lesser quality than the French CNES material, much of which was channelled via the gendarmerie. Nevertheless, it forms an important (but unfiltered) database in its own right. When it is released we might begin to appreciate the problems which faced Mr Condign when he tried to make sense of this material ten years ago!”
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May 01 2007 
May 1st, 2007 at 8:59 am
This is gonna be interesting!
May 1st, 2007 at 10:36 am
Smylex:
That much is definitely certain!
For me, the most important thing is that we should have a huge, and previously-unseen data base of case reports to examine.
May 1st, 2007 at 11:51 am
Nick, is it me, but when I’m reading your Dave Clarke excerpts there’re times in the text when I can almost feel his heart pounding in his chest as he struggles to stop himself hyperventilating from near uncontrollable excitement?
I can almost hear him burbling away to himself, “It’s like a dream! Like a dream!”
Then again, maybe it’s just me!
As for Dave Clarke himself, I’ll give him foive!
‘Dave Clark Five’? No?
O, please yourself!
May 1st, 2007 at 12:33 pm
when will this be released and is there a particular website where it will be posted?
May 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
The files are apparently being scanned by the British Minsitry of Defense right now and will apparently all be posted to their official website. Not sure when, but I’ll keep everyone posted soon as I hear.
May 1st, 2007 at 1:37 pm
Alan:
Dave Clarke “Five”?
Groooan!
LOL
May 1st, 2007 at 2:15 pm
Hi please to meet you all, my first time here, just received mail from Project Camelot! If you do not know it visit their page although its very slow but still working.
The text…
Henry Deacon himself appears to have been silenced.
We’ve not heard anything from Henry Deacon for five weeks, whereas previously we were in contact with him regularly. Despite our efforts, we’ve been unable to re-establish communication.
Just prior to his disappearance, he had told us he was being “coerced”. Readers may draw their own conclusions.
We continue to regard him as a good friend whom we’d grown to like, admire and trust. We miss his wry messages, his sparkling humor, and his strong principles and values. Wherever he is and whatever he is doing now, we hope he is safe, and wish him well.
We intend to compile and publish the most recent information received from him in due course.
Best wishes to all, Bill and Kerry
http://www.projectcamelot.net/henry_deacon.html
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:15 pm
Hi Nick!
So, it seems like you moved to the US shortly after I did, huh? I met you a few times at Irene’s meetings
Anyway, after being in the US for seven years now it seems to me that the only real difference between government secrecy in the US and the UK is that people in the US take more notice of it. That said, I found people in the UK were more open to talking about the subject.
So, me being the pessimist that I am, I have to ask… do you think these files will contain anything of any real substance?
Take care, mate! Looks like you’re going to be busy
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:41 am
Hey Paul
Were you Darren Danks’ friend, or am I getting you confused with someone else? I remember Darren had a friend who moved to the US a year or so before me, and he came to the meetings occasionally.
Well, as far as the files are concerned, I think it’s highly likely that we’ll see some interesting reports; simply because most of the older files contain interesting reports too.
Granted, most of the stuff that the MoD has released tends to be “lights in the sky” type stuff.
But every so often there will be something interesting - a pilot report, a radar report, a vehicle interference case etc.
I think what will be lacking, however, is any sort of deep analysis by the Ministry of Defense.
Seems for the most part they didn’t dig deep to resolve the issue of what it was that people saw, once they ruled out “national security” concerns.
The thing that those not aware of the situation need to remember is that the MoD has never had a Project Blue Book type group that is specifically designed to investigate UFOs as such.
Determining what UFOs were or are was never a part of tbe MoD’s agenda. If the relevant case in question did’t affect national security, the MoD just filed it away.
But from a UFO researcher perspective, it’s quite probable I think, that there are going to be some good nuggets of info in there.