That’s gotta be the premise for about ten unwritten Philip K. Dick manuscripts.

As for the USAF/tower recording- I’m a little embarassed to link it up, because it’s probably been debunked- but here goes:

http://www.uforeview.co.uk/F15sANDUFO.wav

At the end of the day ALL of Ufology is based upon interpretation of the scant facts concerning ufology that we can confirm.

We know that people see weird things in the sky, we know they are occasionally tracked on radar, that they are sometimes chased by aircraft, and that sometimes military and intelligence agencies have exhibited concern about them.

And yes, it’s true that my interpretation of the evidence is merely that: namely an interpretation, that goes for every single person in ufology.

No-one who claims that UFOs are here to help us has even the slightest bit of proof to prove that. In fact, the utter lack of positive intervention in our lives suggests to me that “they” are not here according to an agenda that helps us.

In fact, believing (as some do) that we have friendly aliens among us who are going to save the ozone layer, cure cancer and ensure that we all love the dolphins is utterly sickening and should/is reserved for people who can’t face up to the fact that the world is tough place to live, and so they hide behind the love and light angle.

The evidence is against this (as scant as I admit the evidence is) and the people who accept this scenario are actually revealing more about their inner anxieties about the world and the future (and their own inner weaknesses in terms of strength of character - or lack of) than they are about aliens.

And “they” don’t appear to be outwardly hostile either. If they were, we would have been reduced to dust long before we had atomic weapons and spaceflight.

So, I see the remaining option that they wish to keep things as they are: some sort of interaction, but never at an open, meaningful level with us.

I see it rather like (albeit not so dramatic) the farmer keeping his cows and pigs in order because at the end of the day he benefits from the situation.

I believe that somewhere, somehow we are being used and manipulated.

I have no time for “the aliens.” I hold to my theory of manipulation, and if I had my way they would be (as the Intel boys are so fond of saying) “terminated with extreme prejudice.”

Yep, that is my reaction to an intelligence that uses us, exploits us, deceives us, and fails to help us.

And I think it’s quite a justified reaction.

Nick, I’m not too sure - either way - about the ‘deception’ angle: I used to warn my spooky daughter an ‘electricity snake’ lived in plug sockets in the days when she was little enough to want to sticky her gooey little fingers in them.

Was I deceiving her or was I trying to communicate something to her in terms she’d comprehend in order to protect her?

Actually, it’s very clear to me the knicker elastic of your mind is way too flexible for you to be insisting this is the only possible interpretation, and I have my own running battles on similar lines over peoples’ ‘capacity to understand’ with the ‘thing’ which continually wills the Universe back into existence even as moment by moment it ceases existing again.

The thing is, you’ve touched on something that continues to bug me right up to the present moment: why certain things can have powerfully different effects on people and even, sometimes, why the same things can have completely contrary effects on the same person.

For instance, I’ve seen and interacted with a veritable menagerie of weird critters in my time, so much so it’s banal, and there are these particular ones I call ‘tadpoles’, which are these snooker and tennis ball sized thingies with little wriggly tails which swim through the air like miniature cartoon-style ghosts, usually in glowing ‘white’ or glowing ‘black’ swarms.

Thus far I haven’t found any references to their like anywhere, but I tend to think of them as cousins of the tailless white spheres I sometimes see whizzing along in the daytime sky.

The thing is, I’m used to them, but this once a larger than normal black one whizzed by me, causing me to experience the sort of violent electric shock I normally only get when I see something novel or something that, so to speak, is delivering clearly explained ’significant information’.

It’s those times when things give me electric shocks as if they’re trying to alert me to, or tell me something but without actually stating what which’re the ones that continue to bug the hell out of me for years afterwards, and they’re also the ones which most remind me of relatively ordinary UFO sightings which somehow manage to leave their witnesses shaken up.

I do indeed think that whatever is at the heart of the UFO mystery, that keeping us away from its real origin and intent is a major part of the reason why it fails to show itself to us in an open fashion.

Whatever the UFO puzzle is, it is utterly focused on one thing as far as we, the human race, are concerned (in my opinion anyway); and that one thing is: deception. And it works, too.

Which USAF recording was it that you are referring to?

Nick

One symbol of this was the lapwing- a tabooed bird that would flap its wings and act wounded anytime a human would get near its nest- effectively doing this in the opposite direction from the nest. This was called ‘disguising the secret’- and I wonder if the UFO phenom is best represented by the lapwing protecting its nest in druidic lore- it would sort of explain the strong telluric influences over UFO sightings.

Question is, what’s the secret! And do we even know what to look for?

Nick, I was wondering- had you commented on that USAF/air traffic control recording anywhere? Was that outed as a hoax?

Yeah that much is definitely certain. And there’s one point I oftencome back to in such cases when the “man-made” angle is tossed out there - if these are all man-made, why fly them where people can see them? Why fly them where the media might see them and publish photos in tomorrow’s newspapers, thus alerting potential enemy nations to our new technologies?
That doesn’t make sense to me.

Although I do think that some UFOs are/were test vehicles of sorts. Greg’s Project Beta book makes it very clear that the military has ingenuously used the UFO subject to hide its test vehicles behind.

That’s an interesting question. I’m not so sure on the angle of mililtary craft; but certainly with respect to those genuine unknowns, the reaction can be very extreme.

While some view their UFO encounters with awe and amazement, others do indeed develop a very negative responose, and repulsion wouldn’t be a far-off description.

I’ve seen people develop phobias, panic-attacks, fear of leaving the house and more as a result of their encounters.

Part of it, I think, depends on the nature of the experience - an encounter with something in the sky may create excitement and in some people a degree of fear.

Whereas an incident with “Gray”-style entities in someone’s home provokes extremes of emotion - not many of them good.

Certainly, the reports in abductions - that border at times on personal violation - provoke such responses, which is not surprising.

So, yes there’s no doubt that some encounters do create an atmosphere of repulsion, but I think that depends to a large degree on how the person is - or is not - directly implicated at a personal level.

There is also the shock factor that comes with the stark realization that something else, something hidden, something very different to us, something more advanced than us, and something that we may not fully understand is meddling in our daily lives and in our world.

But while that was awe- this pilot seemed revolted by his sighting. Just shocked and apalled. Sort of like Fife Symington’s reaction to the Phoenix lights craft.

Do you find lots of witnesses reacting this way (repuplsed)? And of the witnesses of craft that eventually turn out to be military- do they react similarly?