Comments on: UFO Fact vs. UFO Theory

By: DingoDog99

DingoDog99 — Tue, 01 May 2007 07:39:52 +0000

not_anonymous,

Vallee’s information technology textbooks are excellent and I lobbied my local college to at least add them to the reference library.

Jess

By: not_anonymous

not_anonymous — Tue, 01 May 2007 00:47:02 +0000

I was looking on Amazon the other day and unless I’m misinterpreting, every last one of Vallee’s ufo books are now out of print. Plenty of used copies out there of course but the only new books Amazon is selling are his fiction and his finance stuff. So sad.

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 22:04:02 +0000

Paul,

Vallee is officially out of the UFO biz (or as he told me “I wasn’t learning anything anymore.”) That doesn’t mean that there aren’t more researchers who wouldn’t appear. I hope.

By: paulkimball

paulkimball — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 18:14:59 +0000

Greg:

To be fair to the networks, I specifically invited Vallee to contribute to and appear in Best Evidence, after being recommended to him by a mutual friend (i.e. told I was a good and serious guy), but he politely declined.

Paul

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:16:42 +0000

“not anonymous,”

I’d call it what I mentioned in the post. What you are describing also sounds like a science fiction/ fantasy writer. I believe that there are such people around. One that comes to mind is Mac Tonnies.

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 15:12:42 +0000

“seein’” (I forgot your name, sorry)

That group of researchers already exists! We have mentioned their names on the site. People like Greg Little, Kenneth Ring, Jacques Vallee, Michael Talbot, and John Keel–but who ever sees them in UFO documentaries? Paul is right: they have to toe the line on the ETH, or no coverage is given.

By: paulkimball

paulkimball — Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:05:48 +0000

Greg:

Re: private screening - sure, as soon as we have some DVDs made.

Paul

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 21:23:17 +0000

Paul,

Some of us need to start petitioning for grants or backing for these sorts of projects, but the pressure to look into other areas may have to be brought to bear on media and academia first. Newspeople may be best bet to crack the nut.

When do we get to see “Best Evidence?” Can I arrange a private screening in L.A.?

By: not_anonymous

not_anonymous — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:21:29 +0000

In regards to study being resistant to the repeatability demanded by the natural sciences I am reminded of Vallee’s antecdote of a “Major Murphy” who stated, “…the study of it doesn’t belong in science. It belongs in Intelligence.” It seems to me that while he does have a point I think it is indisputable that at least some aspects of the phenomena continually challenge a number of specific scientific issues.

Who, even outside ufology, has seriously pondered the problem of how science should approach the study of an intelligence that may vastly smarter than the scientist and may not be particularly interested in being studied? What name would you give a discipline that required equal parts spycraft, scientifically rigorous analysis and fantastic imagination?

By: crgintx

crgintx — Sat, 28 Apr 2007 17:44:24 +0000

I would like to add something to one Paul’s comments the networks want ET’s who have come from where ever to use humans like lab rats for reproductive and waste elimination biological experiments. Nothing like playing on most people’s worst fears.