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Apr 09 2007

UFO Hackers

As I’ve already posted a number of articles on the seemingly never ending saga of UFO computer hacker Gary McKinnon, this will probably be my final post until he’s extradited and sentenced. However, I wanted to bring to your attention this newly-published article from The Scotsman since it gets more into the mind of the man himself, rather than just focusing upon his hacking activities.

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7 Comments to “UFO Hackers”

  1. sasdave Says:

    Gee it appears that the military can’t get their facts straight. Every article has differant damages. Nasa is now in on it too, the very ones that have deceived and are just as full of a non- alien exist policy and war criminals. I don’t agree with the crime; but, you can bet much more criminal acts are in store for Gary, I mean didn’t Kennedy die because he was going to get to the bottom of the ufo phenomina. I may be wrong but people forgot the evils that have been done by so called leaders. Correct me if I am wrong.

  2. crgintx Says:

    For Pete’s sake, he was 36 years old when committed the break-ins. The Scotsman makes it sound like he’s going to put in some Federal Supermax. That’s very unlikely. Hacking into a gov’t computer is a crime in the UK isn’t it? He did it 90+ times. If I hacked into the UK gov’t computers to obtain official secrets from the US, I’d get extradited to the UK for trial and punishment. While I believe he should be tried and sentenced in the UK for obviously being a very stupid nuisance hacker, the victims of his crimes are ultimately the US taxpayers who are footing the bill to prosecute him. Shouldn’t he face punishment for his crimes where the crime to place? I suspect that he’ll cut a deal to serve his sentence in the UK and not the US on a lesser charge. Every thing I’ve seen and read about him from both sides of the pond is that he isn’t worthy of much sympathy.

  3. sasdave Says:

    Now if he hacked into the military computers and found the truth regarding Admiral Bryd’s findings and the so called drug overdose of his son. I can see why the military is scared. Truth hurts when lies are your game. Gary may not be worth any sympathy; but, the american people should not pay to keep the military etc from continuing to lie and deceive their own kind.

  4. Nick Redfern Says:

    Dave:

    I think the interesting thing about McKinnon is that if he’s tried and convicted, there is a good chance that he will talk during the court case (and the media will subsequently report on) about some of the UFO-related (or potentially UFO-related) data he read online.

    Ironically, by arresting and possibily convicting him, certain secrets may in part at least enter the public domain.

    That’s exactly what happened with Matthew Bevan. Had he not been arrested and charged, the media would never have known he had uncovered data on gravity manipulation research at Wright-Patterson.

  5. paulkimball Says:

    Nick:

    You wrote:

    “I think the interesting thing about McKinnon is that if he’s tried and convicted, there is a good chance that he will talk during the court case (and the media will subsequently report on) about some of the UFO-related (or potentially UFO-related) data he read online.”

    That’s assuming (a) McKinnon really did see the things he said he did, which I don’t believe for a second, and (b) anyone would attach any credibility to a stoner computer hacker.

    Ironically, if the government really did want to make ufology look silly (and I don’t think they do, because ufology does the job for them), they would indeed make McKinnon a cause celebre.

    Not exactly the poster child I would want for the serious study of the UFO phneomenon! :-)

    Paul

  6. Nick Redfern Says:

    Paul:

    Nope, he isn’t a poster child for ufology at all.

    However, in the case of Matt Bevan, he certainly *did* see the gravity research material he claimed to have seen; and also how this was planned to be used in a small split level prototype craft that was tied in with heavy elements.

    That’s not hearsay: that was one of the key areas that Scotland Yard was specifically asked by US Intel to determine: namely, how much Bevan had read on-line and if he had downloaded the gravity research files.

    So, I don’t rule out the possibility that McKinnon saw *something*.

    There’s also the fact that if McKinnon is making it up, why not say something that would really catch everyone’s attention such as that he saw photos of dead aliens or something?

    Saying that he saw files on poorly-defined “non-terrestrial officers” is hardly trying to really reinforce the idea that he saw super-secret UFO files.

    Re being stoned: not sure why that has relevancy. Lots of people live healthy, constructive lives using recreational drugs that some fundamentalist old fart in Government has deemed illegal but that are far less damaging than whisky, vodka, cigarettes, etc.

    Now before people who get outraged at such issues and proceed to scream and shout at me, I’m not advocating people do this or do that. It’s people’s own business what they do. I’m merely pointing out that in the same way that some people go down the pub on a friday night, others hang out and get stoned. Both may have jobs, both may be completely ressponsible people. But one is illegal and one isn’t.

    To me at least, using the stoner angle is implying someone’s a whacked-out, unreliable drug addict. But that’s the same (to me at least) as saying that someone who likes a couple of beers on a friday night is a raving alcoholic.

    And, remember too how many of the US population are utterly hooked on products like anti-depressants, pain-killers, anxiety medicine, etc. the figures are truly scary.

    If these people cannot stop taking these products (which are drugs) then they are a drug addict by definition.

    If someone smokes cigarettes and cannot quit, they are a drug addict by definition.

    But certain elements of society see people like anti-depressant-addicts and cigarette-addicts in a different way to someone who hangs out smoking pot. Never understood that; never will.

    Plus, the research of Rick Strassman, for example, argues (convincingly, in my opinion) that drugs can play a major role in certain UFO experiences.

    But, this is hardly the forum for a drug debate!

  7. sasdave Says:

    I fully agree with you Nick. A old security guard friend of mine said that smoking pot behind the whitehouse was a common accurance. Now if the gravity research material was viewed it would open a can of worms. Is the ufo phenomina being created by the government(s) to exploit the masses physically and mentally? I think that anything is possible especially if we are held accountable for our actions; yet, governing officials aren’t.

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