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	<title>Comments on: The Chupacabras: A Psychological Test Come To Life?</title>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jan 2007 15:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian:

Indeed. In fact, the surveillance issue of ufology (never mind just UFOs themselves!) is one that - to me at least - may answer some of the questions.

For example, determining who is watching us and why, may give an indication of what the official world thinks is going on.

By that I mean (and the following is a hypothetical situation) is the Govt secretly sharing info on abductees with psycologists or experts in DNA related issues?

If the former, it suggests maybe the Govt thinks abductions are psychological, but if the latter, maybe they think it's physical.

As I said, that was purely hypothetical, but determining who is speaking to who in the official world about the subjetc may be an indicatin of the mindset of the official world - and may also be an indicator of what they know too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian:</p>
<p>Indeed. In fact, the surveillance issue of ufology (never mind just UFOs themselves!) is one that - to me at least - may answer some of the questions.</p>
<p>For example, determining who is watching us and why, may give an indication of what the official world thinks is going on.</p>
<p>By that I mean (and the following is a hypothetical situation) is the Govt secretly sharing info on abductees with psycologists or experts in DNA related issues?</p>
<p>If the former, it suggests maybe the Govt thinks abductions are psychological, but if the latter, maybe they think it&#8217;s physical.</p>
<p>As I said, that was purely hypothetical, but determining who is speaking to who in the official world about the subjetc may be an indicatin of the mindset of the official world - and may also be an indicator of what they know too.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gaugler</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Gaugler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jan 2007 23:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick

It brings to mind NORAD and the "Fastwalkers" that are talked about by many in the UFO community...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick</p>
<p>It brings to mind NORAD and the &#8220;Fastwalkers&#8221; that are talked about by many in the UFO community&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian

Circimstantial, maybe. Or maybe  not. This case you reference definitely fits the pattern of numerous such cases (from the UK and US) that suggest a deep monitoring of abductees that seems to extend back to at least the early 1960s.

And, also as with the witness you refer to, it seems that whoever is doing the monitoring has access to unique data to allow for such monitoring to occur - and so quickly in the immediate aftermath of a UFO event, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian</p>
<p>Circimstantial, maybe. Or maybe  not. This case you reference definitely fits the pattern of numerous such cases (from the UK and US) that suggest a deep monitoring of abductees that seems to extend back to at least the early 1960s.</p>
<p>And, also as with the witness you refer to, it seems that whoever is doing the monitoring has access to unique data to allow for such monitoring to occur - and so quickly in the immediate aftermath of a UFO event, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gaugler</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-412</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Gaugler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick

Regarding official interest in abductees, I have a case on file where an abductee, after experencing multiple abduction experiences that would come out later under hypnosis, claimed to have actually observed a UFO hovering over her house in 1999.  The next day, a black Toyota Camry parked outside her house and a man in a dark outfit looked up at where the craft had been the night before and began to fill out a report, making no effort to contact her.  Granted, this is circumstantial, but it certainly is worthy of an eyebrow raise or two.  The witness herself felt that he was "too precise with the location" and felt that some groups have the ability to track UFOs, as do I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick</p>
<p>Regarding official interest in abductees, I have a case on file where an abductee, after experencing multiple abduction experiences that would come out later under hypnosis, claimed to have actually observed a UFO hovering over her house in 1999.  The next day, a black Toyota Camry parked outside her house and a man in a dark outfit looked up at where the craft had been the night before and began to fill out a report, making no effort to contact her.  Granted, this is circumstantial, but it certainly is worthy of an eyebrow raise or two.  The witness herself felt that he was &#8220;too precise with the location&#8221; and felt that some groups have the ability to track UFOs, as do I.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jan 2007 13:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian

MILABS are certainly a very interesting concept and the idea that some abductions (although I suspect less than some researchers estimate) are the work of covert projects is likely.

There is definitely evidence of official interest in abductees - I included a chapter on this in my most recent book, "On the Trail of the Saucer Spies."

Plus I do find it intriguing that certain aspects of abductions seem to involve technology that would seem far less advanced than we might expect from aliens way ahead of us...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian</p>
<p>MILABS are certainly a very interesting concept and the idea that some abductions (although I suspect less than some researchers estimate) are the work of covert projects is likely.</p>
<p>There is definitely evidence of official interest in abductees - I included a chapter on this in my most recent book, &#8220;On the Trail of the Saucer Spies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Plus I do find it intriguing that certain aspects of abductions seem to involve technology that would seem far less advanced than we might expect from aliens way ahead of us&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gaugler</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-380</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Gaugler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Dec 2006 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Nick,

I suspect that certain elements within the United States government/military have long had more extensive roles with different phenomenon than previously speculated by most other researchers.  It reminds me of the so called "MILAB" phenomenon, where abductees have reported suffering through a second abduction by military forces who interrogated them for information concerning their first abduction by non-human forces.  In fact, some have even reported being interrogated while humans in alien costumes stood in the background!  Assuming these accounts are true, it makes one wonder if many so called "alien abductions" are simply smokescreens for covert government operations.  It is not a stretch to imagine that psywar operatives came across the legends of vampire-like beasts in Puerto Rico and decided to utilize them to their own advantage.  As far as the idea of a Tulpa goes, it's intriguing...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Nick,</p>
<p>I suspect that certain elements within the United States government/military have long had more extensive roles with different phenomenon than previously speculated by most other researchers.  It reminds me of the so called &#8220;MILAB&#8221; phenomenon, where abductees have reported suffering through a second abduction by military forces who interrogated them for information concerning their first abduction by non-human forces.  In fact, some have even reported being interrogated while humans in alien costumes stood in the background!  Assuming these accounts are true, it makes one wonder if many so called &#8220;alien abductions&#8221; are simply smokescreens for covert government operations.  It is not a stretch to imagine that psywar operatives came across the legends of vampire-like beasts in Puerto Rico and decided to utilize them to their own advantage.  As far as the idea of a Tulpa goes, it&#8217;s intriguing&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-331</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill

No, I don't know any Talbot's but this is very interesting. As you know, "the game of the name" as Doc Shiels once correctly described it, is prevalent throughout much of Forteana. 

Places named Jefferson often have weird/fortean activity attached to them.

And, coincidentally (I mean, synchronistically, of course!), in the current issue of Fortean Times (issue 218, January 07), there is an article from Jenny Randles titled "1980: Silent Night" that reveals how the name-game comes into play in the Rendlesham Forest UFO landing case of December 1980.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill</p>
<p>No, I don&#8217;t know any Talbot&#8217;s but this is very interesting. As you know, &#8220;the game of the name&#8221; as Doc Shiels once correctly described it, is prevalent throughout much of Forteana. </p>
<p>Places named Jefferson often have weird/fortean activity attached to them.</p>
<p>And, coincidentally (I mean, synchronistically, of course!), in the current issue of Fortean Times (issue 218, January 07), there is an article from Jenny Randles titled &#8220;1980: Silent Night&#8221; that reveals how the name-game comes into play in the Rendlesham Forest UFO landing case of December 1980.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Hancock</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-330</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment more tulpa-related than to do with UFOs, but chupas and other mystery  animals (and "manimals") have long been hypothesized as being very possibly of a "manifested" nature..thought form..as in "Cormons", etc....by metaphysical types like the Druid John Michael Greer and others.

Among the "entities" thought "manifested" in this manner is the werewolf...because human flesh and bone cannot twist, bend, and contort (as in "An American Werewolf In London") in the ways necessary to "transform" into such a beast in a literal manner.  A visualized tulpa creation could, in theory. I say this, Nick, to "set you up" for the following synchronicity stories: in Henderson County, Kentucky, there were werewolf stories in the 1800s. Suspicion fell on a prominent family named Talbott  (spelled with two "Ts"), particularly on one man (first name unrecorded) whose initial was "L". He is buried in a local cemetery there under the marker that reads "L.Talbott".

The first synchronicity here involves screenwriter Curt Siodmak's 1941 Universal Pictures film "The Wolf Man",
starring Lon Chaney Jr. His character name was Lawrence Talbot (one t) and he was from a prominent Welsh family.
This Talbott/Talbot and "L" initial association with werewolfery is amusing.

But there is more: There is a Talbot County in Georgia, with a county seat of Talbotton (formerly Talbot Town). You will note the double 'tt" appears in the name of the town. A young woman of the local Talbot family there was sent away long years ago, to Europe, for treatment for some "malady". When she left, werewolf stories in the county quickly tailed off (pardon the pun) and died.

Don't know anybody named Talbot or Talbott do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This comment more tulpa-related than to do with UFOs, but chupas and other mystery  animals (and &#8220;manimals&#8221;) have long been hypothesized as being very possibly of a &#8220;manifested&#8221; nature..thought form..as in &#8220;Cormons&#8221;, etc&#8230;.by metaphysical types like the Druid John Michael Greer and others.</p>
<p>Among the &#8220;entities&#8221; thought &#8220;manifested&#8221; in this manner is the werewolf&#8230;because human flesh and bone cannot twist, bend, and contort (as in &#8220;An American Werewolf In London&#8221;) in the ways necessary to &#8220;transform&#8221; into such a beast in a literal manner.  A visualized tulpa creation could, in theory. I say this, Nick, to &#8220;set you up&#8221; for the following synchronicity stories: in Henderson County, Kentucky, there were werewolf stories in the 1800s. Suspicion fell on a prominent family named Talbott  (spelled with two &#8220;Ts&#8221;), particularly on one man (first name unrecorded) whose initial was &#8220;L&#8221;. He is buried in a local cemetery there under the marker that reads &#8220;L.Talbott&#8221;.</p>
<p>The first synchronicity here involves screenwriter Curt Siodmak&#8217;s 1941 Universal Pictures film &#8220;The Wolf Man&#8221;,<br />
starring Lon Chaney Jr. His character name was Lawrence Talbot (one t) and he was from a prominent Welsh family.<br />
This Talbott/Talbot and &#8220;L&#8221; initial association with werewolfery is amusing.</p>
<p>But there is more: There is a Talbot County in Georgia, with a county seat of Talbotton (formerly Talbot Town). You will note the double &#8216;tt&#8221; appears in the name of the town. A young woman of the local Talbot family there was sent away long years ago, to Europe, for treatment for some &#8220;malady&#8221;. When she left, werewolf stories in the county quickly tailed off (pardon the pun) and died.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know anybody named Talbot or Talbott do you?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Redfern</title>
		<link>http://www.ufomystic.com/2006/12/26/the-chupacabras-a-psychological-test-come-to-life/#comment-329</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Redfern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 14:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dingo

That's the thing: it is indeed very much a cultural phenomenon - Puerto Rico, Latin America, Mexico, parts of Florida.

I don't think it's so much that they are sociologically more susceptible to this imagery/entity as such. I think it's more that this image of a weird, bat-like, vampire was the initial one created.

Had the initial image been a Bigfoot type creature, maybe everyone would have been seeing that.

I think the important thing is that when the Chupa craze began, it definitely kick-started a belief, which in turn (in my opinion) led to the literal creation of a mind-monster in the form of what the Chupa was perceived to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dingo</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the thing: it is indeed very much a cultural phenomenon - Puerto Rico, Latin America, Mexico, parts of Florida.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s so much that they are sociologically more susceptible to this imagery/entity as such. I think it&#8217;s more that this image of a weird, bat-like, vampire was the initial one created.</p>
<p>Had the initial image been a Bigfoot type creature, maybe everyone would have been seeing that.</p>
<p>I think the important thing is that when the Chupa craze began, it definitely kick-started a belief, which in turn (in my opinion) led to the literal creation of a mind-monster in the form of what the Chupa was perceived to be.</p>
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		<title>By: DingoDog99</title>
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		<dc:creator>DingoDog99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Dec 2006 04:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question is, why has this chupacabra taken off within the Latino countries and the American southwest desert, but hasn't really moved on to other countries? Is this a Hispanic collective consciousness phenomenon? If so what sociologically would make them more susceptible to this particular entity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question is, why has this chupacabra taken off within the Latino countries and the American southwest desert, but hasn&#8217;t really moved on to other countries? Is this a Hispanic collective consciousness phenomenon? If so what sociologically would make them more susceptible to this particular entity?</p>
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