Comments on: What Does the Government Know?

By: Greg Bishop

Greg Bishop — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 08:37:26 +0000

You guys are getting ahead of me! I’m not sure the powers that be know just what to do with the UFO “problem.” You’re right on the mark, is all I’ll say for now. More later today (12/21.)

As for the lake crash, can you say “mistake” or “hoax?” Hoax most likely on the film/ TV company that was about to start production.

By: Bill Hancock

Bill Hancock — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:40:34 +0000

I used to talk to people who were of the opinion that all this stuff was all a big deception operation to make…at the time…the “Russkies” and the “Chicoms” believe that we had this crashed saucer technology ready for retro-engineering, little survivor aliens to “show us the way”, a secret alliance with space people, and the power to kick commie butt BIG TIME if they dared to mess with us…whether they had a pile of thermo-nukes are not. Because WE had the ALIENS on OUR side and no “Redskis” could ever stand against THEM.

And, so the thought went,so long as we kept revving up UFO-Techno “secrets”…and trying to look like we were DENYING it all…the more the comrades might tend to BELIEVE it. OR to be sure it was worth the risk NOT to believe it! Maybe we wanted it to be like a huge elaborate “shell game”. The more you gave them the “fast shuffle” so that they were never sure exactly which shell the pea was under, the less likely they’d be to “call” you on it.

And speaking of all this “Is it or isn’t It?”…what’s the take around here on the so-called plane at the bottom of the lake? The Great Lakes Dive Company’s supposed submerged discovery of jet and mystery object from the legendary Kinross case? Submerged in the depths of lake Superior.

The company makes the announcement of the find…shows side-scan sonar imagery in the media…and then the website closes down…the owner becomes unavailable…and nobody knows nuthin’ about nuthin’. Was this a scam for fun? Or did THE BLACK OPS GOVERNMENT get them?

By: alanborky

alanborky — Thu, 21 Dec 2006 03:01:17 +0000

Personally, I’m perfectly willing to go along with the idea groups like MJ12 and The Men In Black really exist - but even if they do, and even if they do still sometimes carry out the sorts of things they’re supposed to, these days I’m fairly certain the reason for this is that just like every other civil service bureaucracy that’s ever existed they’re constantly seeking to justify both their existence and their budgets.

The reason for my certainty is I’m growing more and more convinced that what the real conspiracy our Governments are trying to hide from us is that they don’t really have the remotest clue what UFOs are, where they come from, who their pilots - if any - might be, what their purpose is, or even what their intentions are: all they know - from decades of personal experience - is, (like ghosts, Bigfoot, and all the other weird stuff out there), UFOs - and whatever lays behind them - come and go at will: do whatever they feel like, whenever they feel like, wherever they feel like; and all according to the dictates of some inexplicably incomprehensible logic all their own; and there’s nothing, absolutely nothing our governments can do to stop them.

Yet in spite of what I’ve just said, I’m even willing to believe that our governments have long had all manner of meetings and encounters with our UFO chums; but if so, and going purely by personal observations and experiences in this particular arena, then I’m fairly certain that like so many others before them they’ve been led endless merry dances pursuing promises of power and knowledge on inconceivable scales, without ever actually receiving anything substantial.

But think of the effect it’d have if any President or Prime Minister running for re-election were to admit, yes, UFOs exist, we don’t actually know what they are, nor do we remotely understand them; they’re possessed of capacities and capabilities that reduce us in comparison to the technological equivalent of dandruff shampoo - the kind that never actually works - and we can’t protect you from them, not even in the slightest - VOTE FOR ME!

Would you vote for such a candidate? Would anyone’s kids ever again fall for enfranchising themselves to the civilization such a candidate stood for? In which case, maybe that’s what the conspiracy’s really all about.

Or maybe not.

By: Bill Hancock

Bill Hancock — Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:47:03 +0000

Some of the substance for the stories for Blum’s book involving the “UFO Working Group” (to which you
associate John Alexander, Albert Stubblebine, Puthoff, Targ, Swann etc.) comes from an exaggeration of what was actually being done in Army Intelligence through operations “Grill Flame” and “Stargate”, the remote viewing experimental projects at Ft. Meade, MD. “RV-ers” like Mel Riley, Skip Atwater, Paul Smith, and others (along with the infamous “Major Ed Dames”) worked to “look into” a lot of varied intelligence targets…mostly weaponry, facilities, and such…although at times they WERE tasked with UFO-related material (typically by Dames, a reputed “saucer-nut”). The success rate on “hits” was always highly subjective and problematical because “Stargate” accuracy levels were determined by confirmational feedback and, in this, case, you never really got any. Nothing substantive, at any rate. This now and then delving into the UFO issue on an experimental basis by an INSCOM/DIA “psychic” research project seems a bit of a stretch as something to be elevated to the level of a real “UFO Working Group” ,as you suggest was the case. I had never realized until now that “Stargate” WAS this “working group” of Blum’s. I always assumed it was something else entirely. Something established in-and-of itself. Boy, was I ever off the mark!!! And, apparently, so was Blum!!! LOL!!!